Who wants to join the Kings this summer?

[Ed2009]

As we are all talking about the upcoming summer and the players we would like to add to our roster I would like to ask following question:

How attractive is our organisation for potential superstars.
Is cap space and a good contract enough to convince a star player to the join our team?
What is the percentange you think we will land Bosh?

Would be interesting to know what you all think.

 

[TheWileyVet]

Lebron: 0%
Bosh: 5%
Amare: 20%

 

[Tetsujin]

Lebron: 0%
Bosh: 5%
Amare: 20%

I see you didn't add Wade or Johnson to that list.

 

[gunks]

Rudy Gay is a FA too isnt he?

He should be on that list. We could use a legit 3 here in Kingsland.

Consider me on the Gay bandwagon!!


....Wait

 

[xrzn]

When free agency begins, Maloofs should fly over to Bosh's home. They should then fly with him to Vegas and give Bosh his own personal suite with unlimited drinks and all the bells and whistles possible. They sign him to the best contract the Kings can offer, give him the key to the city, a Ferrari or two, and botta-bing botta-boom the Kings are the champs next year.

 

[QoooooQ]

Carlos Boozer for 3 years, $25-30 million. Yes it seems expensive, but I'm guessing he won't be available below that price range. He'll give us rebounds, rebounds, rebounds which is exactly what we need. Then maybe DJ Mbenga to wrestle with the Howards and O'neals that Hawes can't handle.

Boozer is a workhorse, not a go-to-guy, so Evans' will clearly remain the number one weapon. I'm not sure how that part would be worked out with Bosh.

So then we have our size & power in Landry, Boozer, Hawes, Thompson and Mbenga and our speed & skill in Evans, Udrih, Garcia, Greene and Casspi.

Then use the draft to add a good frontcourt prospect who wouldn't have to contribute significantly for a couple of years.

 

[Ed2009]

When free agency begins, Maloofs should fly over to Bosh's home. They should then fly with him to Vegas and give Bosh his own personal suite with unlimited drinks and all the bells and whistles possible. They sign him to the best contract the Kings can offer, give him the key to the city, a Ferrari or two, and botta-bing botta-boom the Kings are the champs next year.

He must make sure Bosh is really drunk...this is the only way he will sign the contract.

 

[Ed2009]

Carlos Boozer for 3 years, $25-30 million. Yes it seems expensive, but I'm guessing he won't be available below that price range. He'll give us rebounds, rebounds, rebounds which is exactly what we need. Then maybe DJ Mbenga to wrestle with the Howards and O'neals that Hawes can't handle.

Boozer is a workhorse, not a go-to-guy, so Evans' will clearly remain the number one weapon. I'm not sure how that part would be worked out with Bosh.

So then we have our size & power in Landry, Boozer, Hawes, Thompson and Mbenga and our speed & skill in Evans, Udrih, Garcia, Greene and Casspi.

Then use the draft to add a good frontcourt prospect who wouldn't have to contribute significantly for a couple of years.

Boozer is a good guy-but we have Landry already on the 4.

 

[QoooooQ]

Boozer is a good guy-but we have Landry already on the 4.

Yeah but Landry can come off the bench or even play the 3 at times depending on the opponent. The biggest problem with our frontcourt is just lack of depth, we have Dorsey, Brockman and May off the bench. Think Landry and Thompson off the bench instead.

 

[TTown Kings]

yick, Carlos Boozer and Rudy Gay. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little...

 

[bajaden]

Rudy Gay is a FA too isnt he?

He should be on that list. We could use a legit 3 here in Kingsland.

Consider me on the Gay bandwagon!!


....Wait

Gay is a restricted freeagent. Which means of course you can still offer him a boatload of money, but his team has the right to match and keep him.

 

[bajaden]

When free agency begins, Maloofs should fly over to Bosh's home. They should then fly with him to Vegas and give Bosh his own personal suite with unlimited drinks and all the bells and whistles possible. They sign him to the best contract the Kings can offer, give him the key to the city, a Ferrari or two, and botta-bing botta-boom the Kings are the champs next year.

Playoff's probably, but I think champs is just a wee bit of a reach. Nice to dream though..

 

[bajaden]

yick, Carlos Boozer and Rudy Gay. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little...

Better than having your eyes bleed..

 

[bajaden]

I think the new CBA, or lack thereof will have some affect on signings. I can see teams being willing to go out on the limb for a Wade or a LeBron type player. But I just don't see teams giving out long term contracts to second or third tier players when they don't know what the rules are going to be after 2011.

It seemed that every team that was capable of shedding salary the last two years was doing it. And the assumption was, that they all wanted to be players in the coming freeagent market. I think to a certain extent thats true. But the owners have an agenda they want put in place. They want a hard cap. They want shorter max contracts and they want the max on those contract to be about half of what it is right now. For instance, instead of 6 yr's at 120 mil, they want 4 yr's at 60 mil.

So lets say the cap drops to around 54 mil for this coming offseason. If your over the cap already you have the MLE you can use to sign a player. So say you do sign a player to a 5.5 mil starting year salary and a five year contract. Or say your Toronto and resign Bosh to the max contract that falls under the current rules. And as a result you end up 6 or 7 mil over the cap, if not more. What happens after 2011 if the league gets its way and they impose a 52 million dollar hard cap and restrict contracts to 4 years max at 60 mil. What are the ramifications to the teams that are sitting there now 8 to 10 million over the hard cap? How do they get back under the cap? Is any of the new CBA retroactive?

As you can see, there's a huge question mark sitting right in the middle of the road of freeagency. So I suspect that a lot of the teams were trying to get under the cap because of the uncertainty. We'll see. I could be wrong. At least the teams will have a year of lockout to figure it all out. I hope I'm wrong about the lockout. But I don't think so..

 

[vistacruza_kings]

anyone at last nights game hear a fan yell to Chris Bosh "come to sacramento next year", Bosh replied by screaming "Hell No!" as he was running down the court.

 

[Mitch Richmond]

I think the new CBA, or lack thereof will have some affect on signings. I can see teams being willing to go out on the limb for a Wade or a LeBron type player. But I just don't see teams giving out long term contracts to second or third tier players when they don't know what the rules are going to be after 2011.

It seemed that every team that was capable of shedding salary the last two years was doing it. And the assumption was, that they all wanted to be players in the coming freeagent market. I think to a certain extent thats true. But the owners have an agenda they want put in place. They want a hard cap. They want shorter max contracts and they want the max on those contract to be about half of what it is right now. For instance, instead of 6 yr's at 120 mil, they want 4 yr's at 60 mil.

So lets say the cap drops to around 54 mil for this coming offseason. If your over the cap already you have the MLE you can use to sign a player. So say you do sign a player to a 5.5 mil starting year salary and a five year contract. Or say your Toronto and resign Bosh to the max contract that falls under the current rules. And as a result you end up 6 or 7 mil over the cap, if not more. What happens after 2011 if the league gets its way and they impose a 52 million dollar hard cap and restrict contracts to 4 years max at 60 mil. What are the ramifications to the teams that are sitting there now 8 to 10 million over the hard cap? How do they get back under the cap? Is any of the new CBA retroactive?

As you can see, there's a huge question mark sitting right in the middle of the road of freeagency. So I suspect that a lot of the teams were trying to get under the cap because of the uncertainty. We'll see. I could be wrong. At least the teams will have a year of lockout to figure it all out. I hope I'm wrong about the lockout. But I don't think so..

You make some great points. The last thing I would want is the Kings to blow their flexibility on third teir "stars" (gay, boozer, lee) and then have the new CBA really screw us in terms of financial flexibility in the future. I would take a similar approach to what Presti has taken with OKC... although we have capsace (as do they) do not use it unless an absolute gem opportunity arises. Until then, use it to take advantage of other teams dumb mistakes (the Thunder being able to pick up Eric Maynor and fill a need for basically nothing because Utah I think it was was trying to get under the luxury tax is a perfect example).

 

[bajaden]

You make some great points. The last thing I would want is the Kings to blow their flexibility on third teir "stars" (gay, boozer, lee) and then have the new CBA really screw us in terms of financial flexibility in the future. I would take a similar approach to what Presti has taken with OKC... although we have capsace (as do they) do not use it unless an absolute gem opportunity arises. Until then, use it to take advantage of other teams dumb mistakes (the Thunder being able to pick up Eric Maynor and fill a need for basically nothing because Utah I think it was was trying to get under the luxury tax is a perfect example).

If the owners get what they want, which is a big if, it would mean a complete restructuring of all the players salaries. Everything would have to fit under whatever the hard cap is. So put yourself in the Knicks shoes for a moment. Lets just pretend they sign LeBron for 22 mil a year and then they're able to add Bosh to the mix for lets say 20 mil. thats 42 million dollars. And what if the new agreement comes in with a hard cap of 52 million. That would leave them only 10 million dollars to fill out the rest of the roster.

Now I may be high on both those salaries, but I think you see my point. If teams pay out big bucks for the so called stars or superstars of the league, it will cause the salaries of all the other players to go down, because there won't be enough money left to pay them what they were getting before.

Which could mean, that if your a team like the Thunder, or the Kings and your under the cap, you might be able to pick up a player for half of what you might pay in this next off season. Its going to be interesting to see how it all shakes out.