Kingster
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That's it exactly!
Who do you want, if the Kings pick #6 to #8 overall in the draft?
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That's it exactly!
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/05/03/trying-figure-trae-young/
Good article on one of the most slept on prospect in the draft.
They compare him more to Lillard than the Curry y’all which agree with. However he’s vision is light years ahead of Lollards and he could be a better passer now than Dame is.
Good article on one of the most slept on prospect in the draft.
They compare him more to Lillard than the Curry y’all which agree with. However he’s vision is light years ahead of Lollards and he could be a better passer now than Dame is.
I wish they would have touched more on his defense because that seems to be what most people are worried about.
Does anybody know much about Anfernee Simons? The Kings expressed interest in him.
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That’s all that matter we got our pg and reasonable centers in WCS/Giles. We don’t need to touch anyone that’s not between 6’5 - 6’9 that can’t shoot, defend, and pass.
I wouldn’t even bring in Bamba/Carter for workouts teams aren’t winning like that anymore.
That’s all that matter we got our pg and reasonable centers in WCS/Giles. We don’t need to touch anyone that’s not between 6’5 - 6’9 that can’t shoot, defend, and pass.
I wouldn’t even bring in Bamba/Carter for workouts teams aren’t winning like that anymore.
kingsfan1984
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Zhaire has the tools to be he best pick in this draft. Can his skills ever get there, who knows. Wouldn't be the biggest shock
LPKingsFan
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I take it you don't buy the Bamba/Capela and Carter/Horford comparisons, then? Optimistic, best case scenarios, to be sure. But their teams seem to be winning well enough.
Capela/Horford are winning yes but it has a lot to do with what’s around them. For capela he has the mvp wing next to him and Chris Paul and a team that launched 3s at a recorded pace. Holford has 5-6 wings that are interchangeable and play defense and has a GOAT coach.
Point is I don’t think WCS is a big enough weakness to draft a big like Carter or Bamba. Take Mikal Bridges and build that defense and 3 point shooting.
KingsFanSince85
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You’re far too black and white on things and stuck in the moment.
Not long ago, teams weren’t winning like the Warriors are winning now either. The only constant is change. For all anybody knows, some team will start winning in the near future with bigs as a counter measure to the current trend. Trends tend to be cyclical.
IMO, teams win with talent. Doesn’t matter the position. The more talent a team has, the better their chances. You don’t pass on talent because it doesn’t fit perceived criteria.
Mikal will be 22, so it's fair to say he might never develop his handles. His most likely scenario is a SG/SF version of Robert Covington with more consistency.
Zhaire is such an intriguing prospect. I think he's one of the most talented players in this draft, but he's raw. If we're drafting in the 8 range, I would be ok with taking the gamble on him. You'd just have to trade Buddy or Bogdan.
kingsboi
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Kings need to cover all their bases when they are drafting 7, that line of thinking is exactly why they continue to botch on draft picks and keep trying to bring in what's the new fad, perfect example are the Jimmer, Stauskas picks because they provide elite shooting that the Kings desperately need, now...the Kings should pass up on a player with all the tools a Bamba has to offer and for what? a Trae Young? that's silly.
kingsboi
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I mean sure, they were really high on them, but does it really matter if they didn't draft them? It's one thing to say it but actions tell us all we need to know. The Kings are notorious for "telling" us rather than "showing" us and that isn't only regarding draft picks.
I meant cowbell kingdom. they were really high on Markkanen and Mitchell lol.
If we had both of those guys on this team, we'd be the best young team in the NBA surpassing the Sixers because I have heavy bias.
kingsboi
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Young has a better chance reaching his potential.
What skill does Bamba exactly have besides rim protection? He’s a terrible passer, below average hands, and can’t score which will be a problem when teams go small and he can’t punish smaller defenders. And unless his rim protection is legendary like Gobert it’s not as important as being able to contain pick and rolls and switch them as well.
Young actually has nba skills and skills that look to be elite. Young’s vision is at an elite level and he’s gonna be a great passer we already know about his shot. He’s also elite in the pick and roll which is huge.
Wendell Carter shot 41% from three this year as a Freshman, a mark that Mikal Bridges didn't meet or exceed until his third year. If you just want to consider three point shooting and defense, why are you eliminating Carter from consideration? He's right up there with Bridges in both areas.
Boston does have two top 3 talents at the wing positions but any defense still needs that key guy in the middle to make it work. All that's really changed in the last 10 years is that teams have realized you can't defend the three point line effectively without switching so versatile hybrid forwards who can guard multiple positions have taken over the 3 and 4 spots in most lineups. We can't just assume that Harry Giles is going to be our All NBA big guy and check that box. People are getting really carried away in the expectations they put on him even after former saviors De'Aaron Fox and Willie Cauley-Stein failed to dominate the second they stepped on the court. We need a lot of talent at multiple spots on the floor, not just the wing.
kingsboi
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Young will not duplicate what he did in Oklahoma in the pros. I'll eat crow if he does. You talk about his shooting, sure he has a place in this league for that alone but he is too small and frail and his athleticism is lacking to have a major impact IMO.
Bamba is a player that would take some time, I understand that, but I'd take a chance at his skillset versus Young and that's not even taking into consideration the measureables which is another reason why he will go top 10.
jcwkings
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The only people who werent high on Maerkanen were the people that only watch ESPN and buy into easy narratives like "hes a soft, slow euro that is a one trick pony". If you saw him at Eurobasket you could see he has was way more than a pick and pop stiff.
jcwkings
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The thing about Young is that he has high level basketball IQ and court vision with potentially high level ball handling. Combined with his elite shooting he has the tools to be special offensively. Defensively he will always be targeted so the gamble you have to take is that he becomes such a + on offense it doesnt matter on the other end.
I think he's better at C because he can take heavier bigs off the dribble. My biggest concern going into the draft was his defense. I always thought he'd be a giant liability on that end whether it was guarding PF or Cs. He was poor on that end, but you forgive it a little because it's his rookie year. We'll see how he manages next year. If he can turn into a very good scorer, then defense doesn't really matter.
Are shotblocking and rebounding not NBA skills? If you believe that shooting and passing are more important skills then say that, but don't go on to say that Bamba has no NBA skills because that's verifiably not true. Look at his block percentage and rebound rate and compare them to successful NBA players. He measures up. I'm not knocking Trae Young, he was first team All American for a reason. But offense is still only half the game.
Also, Brad Stevens didn't play a minute of basketball yesterday. His team's total domination of the Cavs is a credit to more than just his impressive ability as a coach. How is his team winning? Why are they winning? The Cavs shot 4 for 26 from three. Was that a fluke or defensive scheme? Between Trae Young and Mo Bamba, which one is more likely to help hold a team to 15% three point shooting? I think it's Bamba. Maybe all he can do on the other end is catch lobs and set screens but if we've got two of the best shooters in the league out there in Buddy and Bogie, maybe that's enough?
Once you factor in both sides of the court I don't see an obvious choice between Young and Bamba. They're very different players who each have very pronounced strengths and weaknesses. And I do think that the biggest wingspan in the entire league combined with elite level shotblocking and rebounding rates in college makes Bamba a good bet to contribute elite NBA level production in those two areas.
They're 2 very different players. In the end, it just comes down to which you would prefer. A potential franchise player, or a a potential 2-way center? Both Young and Bamba would overlap in positions with Fox and Giles(if you believe the hype). Both have equal amounts of busting.
SacTownKid
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With a team that's willing to give him 35% of the offense he will. If not, it ain't so pretty.
The thing about Bamba is he has a chance to develop into being good at all those things. He's shown glimpses of vision, ball handling, shooting, and finishing ability around the rim. Young is closer to his ceiling, Bambas just keeps going up and up.
kingsboi
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I don't see him being a successful scorer in the NBA like some are making him out to be, he is more of a spot shooter in the NBA. You really think a team will allow him to chuck up 25-30 shots a game? I mean if there is, they will be right back in the lottery.
Spot shooter get out of her with that man dudes gonna be running the pick and roll to perfection. When you can score on all three levels on the court and have an elite shot you project well to be a scorer
He’s shown no glimpse of vision dude can’t pass and bigs will eat him in the paint his top skinny.
Shot blocking is probably the most overrated skill there is right now especially in college. Do we know how he got these blocks was Bamba standing in the key all game. Plus the way the game is played has devalued that skill teams will launch 3s on us as they already do while we wait for Bamba to block shots that aren’t coming. Also he’s mediocre on the perimeter I wish I could find the article (I’ll look) but semi nba athletes blow by him regularly
Of course he won’t go 28-9 but he has elite vision, playmaking, and shooting he could do 20-8.
Why would you take Bambas potential over Young? Young could be a number 1 option on a playoff team while Bamba is Gobert with a decent shot
Shot blocking is probably the most overrated skill there is right now especially in college. Do we know how he got these blocks was Bamba standing in the key all game. Plus the way the game is played has devalued that skill teams will launch 3s on us as they already do while we wait for Bamba to block shots that aren’t coming. Also he’s mediocre on the perimeter I wish I could find the article (I’ll look) but semi nba athletes blow by him regularly
Of course he won’t go 28-9 but he has elite vision, playmaking, and shooting he could do 20-8.
Why would you take Bambas potential over Young? Young could be a number 1 option on a playoff team while Bamba is Gobert with a decent shot
kingsboi
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I can't wait until we have this conversation again at the end of his rookie season
kingsboi
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if Young is a number one to you, then I think it's best we stop this conversation now because it seems you are set in your ways on Young being a star. Stop listening to people comparing Bamba and Gobert...they really aren't much a like other than their shot blocking abilities and long wing spans. It's an easy and lazy comparison. Watch Bamba play and you'll know he isn't a Gobert 2.0
https://www.thestepien.com/2018/04/16/bet-mo-bamba-bet-athletic-development/
This guy is who y’all hype up cause of his wingspan smh
This guy is who y’all hype up cause of his wingspan smh
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