Who do you start to replace Kevin?

[VF21]

Here's the idea. It's been reported that Reggie hasn't decided who to start at the shooting guard slot while Kevin Martin is out. So I suggest we here at Kingsfans.com help our new coach...

Who's your pick? Vote in the poll and then feel free to explain why. I've made this an open poll ... just because I like open polls.



I've only listed the three most likely options so if people want to start Justin, Daryl, KT, Hawes or SAR at the 2 they're outta luck.

 

[VF21]

This is really tougher than it seems. My first pick would have been Cisco, because he seems to thrive with more minutes. BUT, on the other hand, I think John Salmons truly deserves the slot as he's really stepped up his game and contributed more than a lot of people ever thought he would. In addition, Good/Bad Cisco IS instant energy and excitement off the bench.

 

[Kingzrool]

I voted Salmons, but I would really like to see Douby get some minutes.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

Salmons definitely deserves the nod, as he's had a sort of renaissance playing off the bench recently and don't forget, he was averaging 20 ppg, 6 rpg, 4 apg types in his wanna-be-superstar mode during the first dozen or so games into the season--definitely helped my fantasy squad . From his Philly days (back when AI was injured) to now, Salmons has always been one to thrive in a starting gig. Hopefully he can keep up those stellar stats and take Kevin's scoring role.

Garcia is a "you never know what you're going to get" sort of player, and those types of players ought to come off the bench with extended minutes just to get a feel for which version you're going to get. I've documented my fondness for Garcia's abilities when he is in top form, but when he's out of it the result is turnovers and bricks. Pure energy guy with talent off the bench is how I'd perceive it, and hopefully he can develop some of his control in that role, and with more minutes.

Douby--ahh sort of the "forgotten man." Got single digit playing time in his past three games, and I agree that with all the swingmen our team is laden with it's hard to make room for him. But the opportunity has rearose...and playing time is inevitable. Has shown flashes of ability to shoot and get hot, and he seems to have some latent shotblocking abilities if he pursues the issue. We do need a shooter in the fray, with Salmons, Artest and Garcia not exactly "pure", and if Douby can show some consistency in this area that would be a nice asset for us. But of course, for the time being, he belongs in the bench as sort of a spot-up man for 10-15 minutes a game or so. Hopefully he can develop some point skills, but based on the early returns, I'm not overly optimistic.

 

[Jechtsphere]

I'd go with Salmons, whoever starts and comes off the bench will get increased minutes.

Hope Q gets a lot more minutes.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Salmons. He's way more productive/consistent when he starts or gets major minutes, and I like Cisco's energy off the bench. Douby is actually tougher to dismiss than initially seems, just because if the focus shifts to developing the youngsters, you need to get him some minutes and see what he can do. In the end, however, Salmons gets the nod.

Edit to add: What I'd like to see is running the ball through Beno, Artest, Salmons or Garcia, with them driving and posting, then kicking out to an open Douby. Quincy should channel his inner Eddie House or Steve Kerr. I think his future role in the NBA is the hot shooting combo guard off the bench, so I'd like to see that get a chance of becoming reality.

 

[bajaden]

OK. I've got to admit that I'm not a big Douby fan. However, I'll leave the door cracked enough for him to make me believe he belongs. As far as who should start. Its a no brainer. Salmons is the most consistant of the three, and also the most talented of the three. Starting in place of Martin you won't lose that much offensively and you will probably gain defensively. What you will lose is someone to replace Salmons coming off the bench. I suspect that Garcia's minutes will increase more than Doubys.
I like Garcia. He's a talented guy. If he could just PLEASE stop forcing things. He did the same thing in college. Drove me nuts then too.

 

[mac]

As a starter Salmons will have to start his dribble earlier in the clock so that he doesn't end up wasting the possession. Off the bench sometimes he's the go to guy so it's alright for an iso play for him, but with the rest of the starters I think sharing the ball would be better.

 

[Warhawk]

Salmons, for many of the reasons already stated. I think he's earned the spot with Cisco coming off the bench.

 

[6th]

John Salmons is have a great year. He deserves a starting spot whenever one is available (including the one now to start for Kevin).

Cisco is too erratic. He is a bench player, and I don't see him as starter material as long as he is going to flip from Bad Cisco to Good Cisco and back again.

 

[piksi]

I start Douby

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

I think John Salmons has more than showed everyone, including Reggie, that he can put up good, strong numbers on a consistant basis in the starting rotation(and off the bench, for that matter) My vote is for Sexy Salmon! lol

 

[sActOwnGal]

I would choose Salmons, just because he's been the most consistent and proven player as opposed to Garcia and Douby, although I wouldn't mind any of them starting.

 

[kingsfan916]

john beacuse he was very consistent before artest came

 

[KingKong]

I would start Garcia so that he gets into a rhythm. I think the main problem with Cisco is that he doesn't get enough time to settle into the offense and gets frazzled easily. Moreover, Salmons is great/ efficient energy off the bench and more importantly gets to the hole. He'll end up finishing the games. I'm not sure how well that would sit with him though.

 

[Showtime]

I'd like to see Artest moved to the 4 spot, and have Garcia start at the 2, and Salmons at the 3 spot. And I'd like to see Douby and Hawes get at least 20 minutes a game.

 

[HndsmCelt]

No brainer Salmons. No discussion necessary, just look at the numbers.

 

[Merdiesel]

Douby never hit the shots hes supposed to hit, Garcia is still out of control the majority of the time, Salmons, well Salmons has been coming threw like a champ. I think the choice is a no brainer really.

 

[ZZE916]

Salmons, for all the reasons previously stated. Garcia plays out of control far too often, and Douby...well, I just don't what what he brings to this team. I would like to find out, but not by starting him . In the current situation, the Kings need to maximize their chances of starting games strong. Salmons.

 

[SLAB]

Start Salmons until he rebuilds his trade value...Then ship him off at the first good offer...He's going to go back to the bench when Martin is back and he wont be happy...Lets just not deal with it.

Or you could do an experiment with Douby...Martin began to blossom when Bonzi had a groin injury, so why not just throw him to the wolves and see what he could do?

Cisco is a great 6th man for us. He's our bench energy and it should stay that way.

 

[Cal-Kings]

I've been thinking about this for awhile now.

I voted for Salmons as my gut response because I thinks he's extremely productive (not to mention sexy!) and I want to see him in there.

Plus, when Garcia plays, my stomach is too tied up in knots waiting for some really stupid mistake that my gut cried out "Salmons!"

Now, I'm thinking more about this. Salmons and Artest really do have very similar games. Neither one passes the ball much. Both drive to the hoop.

So maybe... maybe... gulp...(I can't say Garcia) maybe Douby should start at the 2.

OK, probably Garcia then... sigh.

 

[Gary]

Start Salmons. Than when Martin is back trade Artest, and move Salmons to the 3. I like Garcia, but his game is still pretty out of control, and he makes a ton of stupid mistakes.

 

[CruzDude]

Gotta go with Salmons. Look what he put up the 7 games RonRon was out. He can get 20 every night plus more rebounds and assists than Kevin. But, as my frau says, he isn't as cute as Kevin!! (Typical spousal answer to the question)

Plus the Cisco good/bad energy level starts to remind one of a younger Jon Barry, who BTW, was a much better 3 pt shooter, and is better of the bench. Plus Douby who is improving on the defensive side.

Question then is who subs for Beno? Douby? Ouch only 2 subs for 1 AND 2!!! Bet we start to see more of Thomas maybe even playing the 3 behind Artest when Garcia also in game. Boy this is going to be interesting.

 

[Cal-Kings]

Gotta go with Salmons. Look what he put up the 7 games RonRon was out. He can get 20 every night plus more rebounds and assists than Kevin. But, as my frau says, he isn't as cute as Kevin!! (Typical spousal answer to the question)

Plus the Cisco good/bad energy level starts to remind one of a younger Jon Barry, who BTW, was a much better 3 pt shooter, and is better of the bench. Plus Douby who is improving on the defensive side.

Question then is who subs for Beno? Douby? Ouch only 2 subs for 1 AND 2!!! Bet we start to see more of Thomas maybe even playing the 3 behind Artest when Garcia also in game. Boy this is going to be interesting.

Yes, but "Ron was out". Ron is back. Do they really play that well together on the court at the same time?

If Garcia doesn't handle the ball, and if he just stays on the perimeter and shoots when told to, he can sink 3s.

As long as Beno handles the ball, I can handle Garcia starting for a bit.

 

[VF21]

It seems Theus has decided on Salmons, at least for now. But I think WE already knew that, right?

 

[chrisnu]

It seems Theus has decided on Salmons, at least for now. But I think WE already knew that, right?

I thought this all along. Theus saying that he hadn't decided yet was like Isiah Thomas saying he was uncertain about starting Jamal Crawford, before the season started. If your hopefuls already know there's no chance of starting, their confidence may go down.

 

[KingsFan93]

Let Douby start and play 12-15 mins per night while Salmons and Cisco come off the bench for some scoring power...

 

[PurpleHaze]

This thread is becoming largely irrelevant at the moment. The constant "who should start" is rather silly since it usually matters a lot more who ends up on the floor in crunch time - at the critical end of tight games.

The Kings only have 11 bodies in uniform with all the injuries and now SAR lost for the year. Tonight against Denver only Cisco scored at all off the Kings bench with 21. Douby, Hawes and K9 had a total ZERO! The Kings are not going to be getting very much scoring from their current very thin bench (except Garcia) - throwing in JWill and Watkins for rare garbage time.

The most important question is who can the Kings pick up to add some needed scoring punch, maybe a post game and perhaps a decent rebounder? Can a trade be made? Any free agents out there available and a signing possibility? Again, 11 bodies suiting up for the next month or so.

Addendum: And with Brad Miller current leading the NBA in fouling out of games (including tonight with 6 fouls) it becomes only 10 bodies available for the Kings!

 

[VF21]

Any further discussion of the continuing roster changes should probably be in a new thread since the poll has, indeed, become irrelevant. It has now been closed.