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VF21 said:And, to make it more interesting, how about they come off the bench in ... well, Bricklayer said Chicago and I kinda like it.
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Now that's just mean!!
I'd at least let them start in Chicago.
VF21 said:And, to make it more interesting, how about they come off the bench in ... well, Bricklayer said Chicago and I kinda like it.
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Bricklayer said:No more picks for Peja is really not making best use of him. That's like not setting picks for Reggie Miller.
But right now I do have some seriosu questions:
1) Bibby and Miller play very well off of each other
2) Bibby and Peja do not I think.
3) Bibby and SAR do not I think.
4) Peja and Miller are ok together. Not great, but ok. Simiilar to Webb/Peja dynamic.
5) SAR and Miller = problem due to defense/rebounding.
6) SAR and Peja = ? Theoretically indide/outside potent combo. In practice, one dimesnional non-rebounding forwards fighting for the ball.
Its not all Peja. Its just guys not working well wiht each other. Its a puzzle. Think we should solve it via trade.
Sparky said:Not to hi-jack this thread, but I think this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Adelman is NOT the real problem with the team. This team has lost three starters to injury and they are now playing the best ball yet this season. I know there are those who will bash Adelman no matter what, but I think this little run vindicates him.
love_them_kings said:I don't know. I've always liked Adelman, and I still do. But, reading that analysis (which I thought was pretty insightful) actually made me think that maybe RA isn't the best coach for this team right now. He definitely was the best coach for the "old" Kings, with our 5 obvious starters, and well defined roles for each. But, maybe we need a coach that is going to shake things up a little bit & mix up the team so that you have the right combo on the floor instead of picking 5 guys, saying these are my starters, and playing them 90% of every game.
SacKings384 said:I saw Cisco shooting at the Clippers game. This guy is serioulsy going to be a stud when/if he gets some confidence. I got out to my seats an hour before the game, I got up only once. Cisco was out their practicing his threes. Alls he took were threes and I only saw him miss ONE out of maybe the 100 or so I saw him took. No joke, no lie. ONE
BawLa said:Peja, Peja, Peja
Sad to say it, but you're the odd man out. The only reason why we would want to keep Peja is for his 3 pointers. Its not his charisma, athletic ability, or his astounding ability to find new injuries. And we have recently been shown that we don't neccessarily need an extra deep threat. Bibby will do for now... until Francisco develops. And its amazing what a little energy can bring to the court. If he could only provide us with those few extra rebounds, steals, and blocks then I wouldn't be saying this right now: Time for Petrie's little favorite play toy to go bye-bye.
What will happen when Peja gets back? My guess is that he will start, and he will continue to plummet to mediocrity. And then we either trade him, or we plummet to mediocrity with him. I say we try to get something for him now.
Bricklayer said:1) Bibby and Miller play very well off of each other
2) Bibby and Peja do not I think.
3) Bibby and SAR do not I think.
4) Peja and Miller are ok together. Not great, but ok. Simiilar to Webb/Peja dynamic.
5) SAR and Miller = problem due to defense/rebounding.
6) SAR and Peja = ? Theoretically indide/outside potent combo. In practice, one dimesnional non-rebounding forwards fighting for the ball.
Sparky said:Not to hi-jack this thread, but I think this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Adelman is NOT the real problem with the team. This team has lost three starters to injury and they are now playing the best ball yet this season. I know there are those who will bash Adelman no matter what, but I think this little run vindicates him.
BawLa said:What will happen when Peja gets back? My guess is that he will start, and he will continue to plummet to mediocrity. And then we either trade him, or we plummet to mediocrity with him. I say we try to get something for him now.
Sparky said:I can see your point. However, I can't think of ANY coach that could get much more out of the current roster than RA. Almost every thread ends up being a trade discussion going over many different ways the team could be improved by moving players. Our chances of improving in the coaching area are far fewer.
vj9999 said:What makes you think Peja will be coming back?
I think we are starting to see how replacable are some of our players.
treewoman said:I noticed several times that when te announcers referred to injured Kings starters that they referred only to SAR & Bonzi...I realize that Peja is supposed to be back Tuesday but it seemed to me that they were deliberately leaving him out of the mix. Wonder if they know something?
Entity said:OK now that we see what a point guard and a ceter are SUPPOSED to do, is our offense going to run the same way when Peja gets back. Peja cannot create, he has to have a pick set by Miller taking away from Millers offese and rebounding. Peja has to adjust his game to the offense being run by Bibby not from the Elbow. A good passing center is a luxury to have but it should not be our entire offense.
Our offense has run so freely and smooth without Peja keeping it stagnant by haveing to run plays for him. Right now the shots just come to ppl with a free flowing game plan. With Peja it comes to a stand still setting screens and double screens so he can get a shot. Peja has to come back taking on the roll of the guy that gets the ball when they double Bibby or the guy that gets the pass off a drive and kick out. NO MORE PICKS FOR PEJA.
playmaker0017 said:I wonder if this is how you all were to Chris Webber.
piksi said:absolutely
playmaker0017 said:Well, it's absolutely absurd, I have to tell you.
A guy that's done nothing but good things in the city of Sacramento ... a good guy in general, keeps his (big) nose clean and never says bad things about the fans, city or anything ... and the fans here all trounce him like he's slept with their sisters.
He's having a sub-par year that probably half of the SFs in this league wished they were doing. He's hurt and no one wants to give him a break. It's obvious something is bothering him ... or has did the fact that his numbers fell after the injury not draw enough coincidence for you?
You can say all you want about this current lineup doing well, blah, blah, blah. It seems everyone is so focused on offense that they've missed the fact that two teams have just scored over 100points on us and we gave up 51% shooting and turned it over 20 times in the game. That's bad basketball, regardless of the outcome.
Then the starting lineup that is so "highly energetic and fun to watch" is losing the battle out there. They have given up more points than they've gotten.
There is a different horse people should be beating and it's name is defense. The two biggest culprits on defense right now are Bibby and Miller. So, if anyone wants to complain - I would think it makes sense to start there.
playmaker0017 said:Well, it's absolutely absurd, I have to tell you.
A guy that's done nothing but good things in the city of Sacramento ... a good guy in general, keeps his (big) nose clean and never says bad things about the fans, city or anything ... and the fans here all trounce him like he's slept with their sisters.
He's having a sub-par year that probably half of the SFs in this league wished they were doing. He's hurt and no one wants to give him a break. It's obvious something is bothering him ... or has did the fact that his numbers fell after the injury not draw enough coincidence for you?
You can say all you want about this current lineup doing well, blah, blah, blah. It seems everyone is so focused on offense that they've missed the fact that two teams have just scored over 100points on us and we gave up 51% shooting and turned it over 20 times in the game. That's bad basketball, regardless of the outcome.
Then the starting lineup that is so "highly energetic and fun to watch" is losing the battle out there. They have given up more points than they've gotten.
There is a different horse people should be beating and it's name is defense. The two biggest culprits on defense right now are Bibby and Miller. So, if anyone wants to complain - I would think it makes sense to start there.