Webber, O'Brien meet to clear air over

VF21 said:
They didn't show any. All that happened was Crandall reported the story that Webber had met with O'Brien. He didn't give any details but he did say that Webb also played limited minutes in today's game.
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Thanks for the info VF :) !!
 
Mad D said:
espn forums are garbage, no matter what team you look at
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I agree. The Kings one is pitiful as well. I found a better 76ers forum, but need to relocate it if I'm so inclined. Not really in the mood after the way Webb played. Haven't found anything that even remotely compares to this board, though, we are very lucky!
 
Conclusion is: Webber is not happy.

Because of coach's decision, and playstyle phily,

he rarely handled the ball and rushed to shoot

could 76ers rebuild the team around Webber instead of AI?
 
funsc said:
could 76ers rebuild the team around Webber instead of AI?
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You mean rebuild the system, not the team. (They won't but they might tweak it a little). Its too late for that.
 
funsc said:
Conclusion is: Webber is not happy.

Because of coach's decision, and playstyle phily,

he rarely handled the ball and rushed to shoot

could 76ers rebuild the team around Webber instead of AI?
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not at this point in webbers career.The sixer will revolve around iverson untill he retires.The sixers are not gonna trade away what talent they have to build around an injury prone 32 year old PF and thats just the way its gonna be
 
Mad D said:
espn forums are garbage, no matter what team you look at
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I agree. Some door knob at the Philly site put up a web page totally trashing Webber. Made me heartsick. What is it about him that people can be such haters towards him.:mad: Wish that site could be shut down. It is full of nothing but cheap shots.
 
VF21 said:
We shall simply agree to disagree. But something to think about...would you say that about any other premiere starting PF who was traded to a new team?

Bottom line is I cannot argue about Chris Webber any more.
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Oh no, you raise a very good point. I just was trying to figure out what's going on inside O'Brien's head, I'm not really behind it at all.
 
VF21 said:
I think he's a control freak and I think his whole thing right now is that he's going to "show Webber who's boss," even if it costs the 76ers a chance at a playoff slot.
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My thought exactly. OB is as stonily stubbon, but always tries to please AI. So I wonder if Webb would ask for a trade at the end of the season.
 
funsc said:
My thought exactly. OB is as stonily stubbon, but always tries to please AI. So I wonder if Webb would ask for a trade at the end of the season.
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if Obrien doesnt please iverson he is the one getting fired.
 
I just can't see Webb being happy in Philly EVER! I honestly think that he is going to try to get out of this situation as quickly and painlessly as he can. I think he should be on a team with a lot of younger players who can learn from his experience, a team that is in a period of rebuilding and need a veteran player to rebuild around. Okay mini poll.. Who does everyone think the best team would be for Chris to play for. Where would he be happiest and do the best? (besides Sac, of course!)


* Classic "Whoa! Step Back!" moment with Webber in Philadelphia, where O'Brien is already dealing with the reality Webber isn't going to be happy for long if Allen Iverson soaks up the available shots and plays full minutes.

Pulled in the third quarter and not reinserted until late in the fourth in Saturday's victory at Atlanta, Webber said, "I've never sat that long in my life. I don't know what to think." "I didn't know it was going to be an issue," O'Brien replied. It won't be the last: When Webber committed a turnover in the late going against the Hawks, local reporters heard Iverson snap, "The ball should be in my (expletive) hands." Nope, coach, no issues here.
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This quote is an etcetera type thing from sacbee.com and, assuming that it's true, it just confirms to me that Webber will not stay for long in Philly. AI has been quoted saying that he NEVER gets tired and wants to play 48 minutes every game. No way will Webb's playing time increase without AI pitching a hissy fit and if the Sixers have to choose between Webb and AI, who do you think they'll choose?
 
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Philly's coaching sucks. Iverson,... sucks.
Why, cause their system sucks. C-Webb should be demanding and getting the playing time. And I'm sure it won't hurt O'Brien to try using him as a playmaker in the high-post. That would be good for Webb and AI. It's just a shame AI doesn't realize it. I mean, after all, CW would be wearing one or maybe two championship rings had there been no "game 6" or constant injuries. I don't think we were good with Webb by accident.

Sixers Suck.
 
love_them_kings said:
http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/forum?start=0&forumID=481

here's one of them. I posted another one before but I didn't bookmark. I keep telling myself I'm over it, and don't need to hang out on the 76ers board!:o

very negative about Webb right now, and a lot of the anit-Webb posts seem to be from people posing as Kings fans! Pitiful.
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I've been reading stories on http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/ and there is a link to the Sixers forum on that homepage.

The poll today has pro-Webb with a slight edge over anti-Webb when asked, will Philly make the playoffs.

Overall on that forum, the most vocal and knowledgable posters favor Webb greatly and are REALLY questioning (and villifying) the sixers coach, Jim O'Brian.

To Bricklayer: phillyburbs.com is a media outlet for the Philly suburbs, legitimate new org.
 
Iverson and Webber can not function togetheras long as there is only one ball in the game
 
twodogmac said:
I've been reading stories on http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/ and there is a link to the Sixers forum on that homepage.

The poll today has pro-Webb with a slight edge over anti-Webb when asked, will Philly make the playoffs.

Overall on that forum, the most vocal and knowledgable posters favor Webb greatly and are REALLY questioning (and villifying) the sixers coach, Jim O'Brian.

To Bricklayer: phillyburbs.com is a media outlet for the Philly suburbs, legitimate new org.
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thanks for the link, I'll check it out. Even on the board I looked at (which was pretty bad) you could tell that they hated O'Brien more than anything. I don't blame them, seems like he has a way of making players play below their potential. I think Webb's going to have trouble playing well if he's only playing 25 minutes a game, too much time to sit and think. Last night he was playing well until he got taken out when he was what, 3/5, and then when he came back in he never got back there. Tough spot for him to be in. I keep thinking the situation will work itself out, but it's ugly now.
 
love_them_kings said:
thanks for the link, I'll check it out. Even on the board I looked at (which was pretty bad) you could tell that they hated O'Brien more than anything. I don't blame them, seems like he has a way of making players play below their potential. I think Webb's going to have trouble playing well if he's only playing 25 minutes a game, too much time to sit and think. Last night he was playing well until he got taken out when he was what, 3/5, and then when he came back in he never got back there. Tough spot for him to be in. I keep thinking the situation will work itself out, but it's ugly now.
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That game last night was ugly, like most of the Sixers games I've watched - their offense is so disorganized and sloppy. Guys taking bad shots, rushed, no one's looking at the whole court. Webb has been wide open at the high post for a pass, nobody passes to him. Then when he gets the ball and passes it, none of them can catch it or aren't watching or ready for the pass! It's a marvel they've won any games since they got C-Webb! Then they complain about his FG% but he's only taken 10 shots! While AI has the same FG% but has taken 30 shots! It is bizarre, and frustrating as a C-Webb fan.
 
twodogmac said:
That game last night was ugly, like most of the Sixers games I've watched - their offense is so disorganized and sloppy. Guys taking bad shots, rushed, no one's looking at the whole court. Webb has been wide open at the high post for a pass, nobody passes to him. Then when he gets the ball and passes it, none of them can catch it or aren't watching or ready for the pass! It's a marvel they've won any games since they got C-Webb! Then they complain about his FG% but he's only taken 10 shots! While AI has the same FG% but has taken 30 shots! It is bizarre, and frustrating as a C-Webb fan.
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I agree, I am very frustrated with that situation right now. Knowing how well Cwebb can play and knowing how much he could do for that team, it is irritating watching him being underutilized. I've always heard bad things about O'Brien & now that I'm watching more closely I have to say that I am REALLY not impressed.
 
piksi said:
Iverson and Webber can not function togetheras long as there is only one ball in the game
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As simple as that. I stated the same as soon as the trade happened, not sure what's so strange about the current situation ?
 
Iverson and Webber COULD function together quite nicely if they didn't have to deal with the biggest horse's patoot in the NBA as their coach.

Their games COULD gel together very well. I suspect a good number of coaches would LOVE to get the opportunity to have both of them on the court. Unfortunately, it appears O'Brien is working very hard to create a difficult situation.

piksi and sloter - You two have never had much good to say about Webber so I have to disregard your input in this situation. It seems painfully clear to me that you would like nothing more than to see Webber fail in Philly.
 
VF21, I could really care less. I actually feel sorry for Webber, he is in a really bad situation, with one of the biggest ballhogs in the history of the game and Webber is simply not an efficient role player... Playing 2nd fiddle is already a big blow to Webb's ego, but he's not as much PT as he wishes either... bad.
 
VF21 said:
Iverson and Webber COULD function together quite nicely if they didn't have to deal with the biggest horse's patoot in the NBA as their coach.

Their games COULD gel together very well. I suspect a good number of coaches would LOVE to get the opportunity to have both of them on the court. Unfortunately, it appears O'Brien is working very hard to create a difficult situation.

piksi and sloter - You two have never had much good to say about Webber so I have to disregard your input in this situation. It seems painfully clear to me that you would like nothing more than to see Webber fail in Philly.
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why would O'Brien work very hard to create a difficult/bad situation?
 
c-webb1s#1 said:
Webber is going to have to learn to play in the style iverson is used to.I think O'Brien is trying to get that through to Webber.The whole Phili offense isnt going to revolve around Webber,and the sooner Webb realizes that the sooner he becomes more effective
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BS. Webber doesn't have to adhere to the way AI and the way the sixers have played these last few years. What has AI's scoring or their philosophy got the sixers ever anyway.... zilch. Webber can really be the playmaker on this team and make a difference without Iverson attempting 40 shots a game.
 
VF21 said:
Iverson and Webber COULD function together quite nicely if they didn't have to deal with the biggest horse's patoot in the NBA as their coach.
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I think AI and Webber could play together well too. But the question is... is AI willing to allow that to happen?? :confused: The guy have such a big ego and never seem and wants to be the 2nd option. A new coach may help, that's for sure. But will it change AI?
 
We're talking about a long time ago Sloter, try 2001 playoffs. AI's Sixers have been a sub par team for awhile now.
 
Sloter, AI could be at the very pinnacle of his talent, skills or whatever you would like to call it. It still doesn't translate into W's. There is a reason for that.
 
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