Ways to help Cousins keep weight down

[rainmaker]

As a former strength and conditioning coach, in regards to what Hammer said about nutrition, I agree somewhat. No reason to cut out healthy fats. In fact, they speed up the metabolism because the have a higher metabolic rate, and they are good for joints and inflamation. However, I disagree with anyone who says Cousins needs to go on a diet.

Now some here might have a different idea of what a diet is compared to the fitness world. Most people think a diet is basically heavily restricting calories, and therefor always being hungry. There are also low carb diets, which would be horrible for a pro athlete to go on, especially someone like Cousins who is working out 4 times a day.

The trick is to strip the fat, without losing muscle/power. Thats why "weight" can be misleading. Sure Cousins could drop down to 270 on a very rstrictive diet, but if done the wrong way, he will be much weaker, and his body composition wouldn't have changed. This is all stuff Shapiro is aware of. Cutting down Cousins bodyfat% in much more important than simply losing weight. Really, if Cousins hits the weights hard, does high intensity weight lifting, which most pro's do, mixed with sprint/intervals/basketball/boxing, he'll lose the weight, and lose it the right way.

Cousins needs to eat healthy, not go on a diet per se. Fruit, vegetables, oatmeal, whole grains for carbs. Lots of lean meat, fish, eggs, protein shakes for protein. And nuts,avacado, fish oil, for healthy fats. Thats a pretty elementary discription, but I'm sure most of you get the point. Shapiro, and any athletes personal chef, will know all this. The timing of what kinds of food you eat is important. Carbs in the morning and pre-workout, healthy fats and protein post workout. Eat, in Cousins case, probably 8-10 small meals per day,which keep s the matabolism as fast as possible.

I highly doubt his weight will be a problem going into next season. Really, the only way his body doesn't improve, while working with Shapiro and playing ball everyday, is if eats like absolute crap, which I dont see happening. He seems more than comitted to me, and wants to prove people wrong.

 

[The Hammer]

As a former strength and conditioning coach, in regards to what Hammer said about nutrition, I agree somewhat. No reason to cut out healthy fats. In fact, they speed up the metabolism because the have a higher metabolic rate, and they are good for joints and inflamation. However, I disagree with anyone who says Cousins needs to go on a diet.

Now some here might have a different idea of what a diet is compared to the fitness world. Most people think a diet is basically heavily restricting calories, and therefor always being hungry. There are also low carb diets, which would be horrible for a pro athlete to go on, especially someone like Cousins who is working out 4 times a day.

The trick is to strip the fat, without losing muscle/power. Thats why "weight" can be misleading. Sure Cousins could drop down to 270 on a very rstrictive diet, but if done the wrong way, he will be much weaker, and his body composition wouldn't have changed. This is all stuff Shapiro is aware of. Cutting down Cousins bodyfat% in much more important than simply losing weight. Really, if Cousins hits the weights hard, does high intensity weight lifting, which most pro's do, mixed with sprint/intervals/basketball/boxing, he'll lose the weight, and lose it the right way.

Cousins needs to eat healthy, not go on a diet per se. Fruit, vegetables, oatmeal, whole grains for carbs. Lots of lean meat, fish, eggs, protein shakes for protein. And nuts,avacado, fish oil, for healthy fats. Thats a pretty elementary discription, but I'm sure most of you get the point. Shapiro, and any athletes personal chef, will know all this. The timing of what kinds of food you eat is important. Carbs in the morning and pre-workout, healthy fats and protein post workout. Eat, in Cousins case, probably 8-10 small meals per day,which keep s the matabolism as fast as possible.

I highly doubt his weight will be a problem going into next season. Really, the only way his body doesn't improve, while working with Shapiro and playing ball everyday, is if eats like absolute crap, which I dont see happening. He seems more than comitted to me, and wants to prove people wrong.

Rain-

Yes, probably a super low carb diet is not the way to go, especially if he is doing a lot of anaerobic workouts. As a nutritionist, I have studied this extensively. Let's go ahead and have this debate: you left out saturated fats in the healthy fat list. This is something I see so frequently, and in fact, it's just plain wrong. Saturated animal fats are the healthiest fats you can eat, and they are crucial for losing weight. I agree with some of the carb suggestions you gave. However, I'd have him eating less fruit and more fatty meats, butter, coconut oil, etc. The phrase "healthy fats" has come now to only include the monounsaturated and omega 3s that you listed, which is true, they are healthy, but they are not has healthy as saturated fats, especially for someone doing intense exercise. Saturated fats are the preferred fuel for the heart, and the preferred fuel for all aerobic exercise, as they are burned most readily in the mitochondria as a fuel for aerobic activity. Short and medium chain saturated fats also don't need to be emulsified by bile, and therefore are burned immediately as fuel, without the need for insulin. Too much insulin in the blood will contribute to gaining weight. Fat doesn't make you fat, fat makes you skinny, especially saturated fat.

 

[rainmaker]

Rain-

Yes, probably a super low carb diet is not the way to go, especially if he is doing a lot of anaerobic workouts. As a nutritionist, I have studied this extensively. Let's go ahead and have this debate: you left out saturated fats in the healthy fat list. This is something I see so frequently, and in fact, it's just plain wrong. Saturated animal fats are the healthiest fats you can eat, and they are crucial for losing weight. I agree with some of the carb suggestions you gave. However, I'd have him eating less fruit and more fatty meats, butter, coconut oil, etc. The phrase "healthy fats" has come now to only include the monounsaturated and omega 3s that you listed, which is true, they are healthy, but they are not has healthy as saturated fats, especially for someone doing intense exercise. Saturated fats are the preferred fuel for the heart, and the preferred fuel for all aerobic exercise, as they are burned most readily in the mitochondria as a fuel for aerobic activity. Short and medium chain saturated fats also don't need to be emulsified by bile, and therefore are burned immediately as fuel, without the need for insulin. Too much insulin in the blood will contribute to gaining weight. Fat doesn't make you fat, fat makes you skinny, especially saturated fat.

I left out saturated fats because it was a pretty general post, and I didn't think many would be interested in the breakdown of different types of fats. But yes, I agree, sat fats are important, if from a natural source, such as beef. I think you would get plenty of healthy sat fats in beef and eggs. I disagree that you think sat fats are more important than omega 3's. IMO, they both are equally important. I don't think sat fat should be a main source of energy consumption in pro athletes. It should assist as an energy source. Omega 3's are great for your heart, circulation, inflamation, and joint health, as I'm sure you know. But omega 3's, especially fish oil, are great for improving insulin resistance, which is key for how your body handles carbs. Burn vs store as fat. Improved insulin resistance will help in that carbs won't be stored, but instead burned as an energy source.

Sat fat usually comes in high protein foods. I don't recommend having a huge steak before exercising so you have sat fat as an energy source. In fact I would suggest exactly the opposite. Fruits/whole grains before, protein/omega,sat fats after. In my expereince, fats, both sat and your omega's, are best as part of the recovery after a workout.

If you were worried about fruit intake, I would cut back the fruit after 4pm. But as an energy source, during the first half of the day prior to traning, I think fruit is essential. I would agree for weight loss though, fruit has too much sugar to not limit your intake somewhat, especially late afternoon or early evenings. But that also goes back to insulin resistance. Insulin isn't bad for you, if your body handles it well. There is a direct connection between bodyfat% and how your body handles insulin. As Cousins loses bodyfat, his body will tolerate carbs more efficiently. He also needs enough insulin storage to not let his workouts suffer. Even combining fruit with a cassein protein source such as cottage cheese will slow the insulin spike, if having fruit in the evenings.

 

[Chupacabra]

no no, its seefood .

Guys c'mon, this is SUPER CEREAL

 

[GeorgeofSacramento]

Limit time spent with Barkley.

And tape a full-sized poster of Oliver Miller in his locker.

 

[Lafayette]

Low Card Diet and some light Cardio will do the trick. Needs to sign right away and spend the summer getting in shape. You know PW is excited for this as are we, the fans.

 

[The Hammer]

I left out saturated fats because it was a pretty general post, and I didn't think many would be interested in the breakdown of different types of fats. But yes, I agree, sat fats are important, if from a natural source, such as beef. I think you would get plenty of healthy sat fats in beef and eggs. I disagree that you think sat fats are more important than omega 3's. IMO, they both are equally important. I don't think sat fat should be a main source of energy consumption in pro athletes. It should assist as an energy source. Omega 3's are great for your heart, circulation, inflamation, and joint health, as I'm sure you know. But omega 3's, especially fish oil, are great for improving insulin resistance, which is key for how your body handles carbs. Burn vs store as fat. Improved insulin resistance will help in that carbs won't be stored, but instead burned as an energy source.

Sat fat usually comes in high protein foods. I don't recommend having a huge steak before exercising so you have sat fat as an energy source. In fact I would suggest exactly the opposite. Fruits/whole grains before, protein/omega,sat fats after. In my expereince, fats, both sat and your omega's, are best as part of the recovery after a workout.

If you were worried about fruit intake, I would cut back the fruit after 4pm. But as an energy source, during the first half of the day prior to traning, I think fruit is essential. I would agree for weight loss though, fruit has too much sugar to not limit your intake somewhat, especially late afternoon or early evenings. But that also goes back to insulin resistance. Insulin isn't bad for you, if your body handles it well. There is a direct connection between bodyfat% and how your body handles insulin. As Cousins loses bodyfat, his body will tolerate carbs more efficiently. He also needs enough insulin storage to not let his workouts suffer. Even combining fruit with a cassein protein source such as cottage cheese will slow the insulin spike, if having fruit in the evenings.

I agree with almost everything you said. I love to have these kinds of intelligent conversations. And yes, totally agree about the omega 3s and insulin sensitivity. Must repair insulin sesitivity. Omega 3s, cell permemability, etc. And no, I wouldn't recommend eating a huge fatty steak with butter right before a workout, mostly because it takes about an hour and a half to digest it, but eating it lots of sat fat and protein in general and reducing carbs will switch the body over to relying on fat as a main fuel for general body functions even when not working out. It just tends to lean you out, and helps repair insulin sensitivity. I firmly believe the human body was meant to run on fat as the primary fuel source, and that everything improves when that is the case. But, yes, in the case of elite athletes, a bit more carbs are needed to replace the glucose burned in anaerobic activity. There are also supplements that can dramatically improve the burning of fat as a fuel in the cells, in the mitochondria. Carnitine is amazing for that. If I was working with DeMarcus, I'd have him on a high fat/high protien/ medium and targeted (timing and source) carb diet, with no calorie restriction at all, eating at any time he wanted, lots of sat fat and omegas (likely as a supplement), probably chromium as a supplement to help with insulin sensitivity, and high doses of Carnitine, probably 6,000 mg/day, divided into two doses, on dose being about an hour before workout. Carnitine is fantastic also for increasing aerobic performance since it acts as an escort for fats into the mitochondria to burn as a fuel, which is what the heart cells need during aerobic training, they need lots of fat, sat fat.

I'd also probably put him on some digestive supplements that help with the digestion of fat and protien--Betain HCl, Pancreatin, Probiotics, Taurine.

DeMarcus will never be overweight as long as you and I got his back!

 

[Chupacabra]

Why are we suggesting ways to help Cousins keep his weight down anyway? Isnt the Kings strength and conditioning coach going to be the one that tells Cousins what to do? Is this thread just basically tips for our members? I dont really get it.

 

[The Hammer]

Why are we suggesting ways to help Cousins keep his weight down anyway? Isnt the Kings strength and conditioning coach going to be the one that tells Cousins what to do? Is this thread just basically tips for our members? I dont really get it.

It could be both. I'm a professional in the field so I like having these discussions. I know how the field is and I don't necessarily trust that the Kings coaches would do the best. You all talk about how they can be better ball players--- shouldn't you leave that to the coach???? I talk about how they can improve their nutrition. It's a fascinating field.

 

[NME]

Help, I wandered into an episode of Dr. Oz!

 

[DocHolliday]

As a former strength and conditioning coach, in regards to what Hammer said about nutrition, I agree somewhat. No reason to cut out healthy fats. In fact, they speed up the metabolism because the have a higher metabolic rate, and they are good for joints and inflamation. However, I disagree with anyone who says Cousins needs to go on a diet.

Now some here might have a different idea of what a diet is compared to the fitness world. Most people think a diet is basically heavily restricting calories, and therefor always being hungry. There are also low carb diets, which would be horrible for a pro athlete to go on, especially someone like Cousins who is working out 4 times a day.

The trick is to strip the fat, without losing muscle/power. Thats why "weight" can be misleading. Sure Cousins could drop down to 270 on a very rstrictive diet, but if done the wrong way, he will be much weaker, and his body composition wouldn't have changed. This is all stuff Shapiro is aware of. Cutting down Cousins bodyfat% in much more important than simply losing weight. Really, if Cousins hits the weights hard, does high intensity weight lifting, which most pro's do, mixed with sprint/intervals/basketball/boxing, he'll lose the weight, and lose it the right way.

Cousins needs to eat healthy, not go on a diet per se. Fruit, vegetables, oatmeal, whole grains for carbs. Lots of lean meat, fish, eggs, protein shakes for protein. And nuts,avacado, fish oil, for healthy fats. Thats a pretty elementary discription, but I'm sure most of you get the point. Shapiro, and any athletes personal chef, will know all this. The timing of what kinds of food you eat is important. Carbs in the morning and pre-workout, healthy fats and protein post workout. Eat, in Cousins case, probably 8-10 small meals per day,which keep s the matabolism as fast as possible.

I highly doubt his weight will be a problem going into next season. Really, the only way his body doesn't improve, while working with Shapiro and playing ball everyday, is if eats like absolute crap, which I dont see happening. He seems more than comitted to me, and wants to prove people wrong.

I agree. You have to feed your body the right foods, and you actually have to feed your body to either lose weight, and or fule your body to burn fat.

Typically though you would change the ratio of your carb and fats to get your body in a state where it was begins to burn fat for fuel instead of carbs.

I definitely didn't mean to suggest that he needs to be on a calorie restrictive diet. More of a meal plan, meal regimen...whatever you want to call it.

 

[The Hammer]

Due to the content of this thread I am getting Jillian Michaels in the banner ad.

 

[Arco Arena]

One or two tapeworms should do the trick.

 

[The Hammer]

One or two tapeworms should do the trick.

Now that was just uncalled for.

 

[Spike]

I dunno, too much fat and he may have performance problems in "other" areas...






...just sayin'

 

[rainmaker]

I agree with almost everything you said. I love to have these kinds of intelligent conversations. And yes, totally agree about the omega 3s and insulin sensitivity. Must repair insulin sesitivity. Omega 3s, cell permemability, etc. And no, I wouldn't recommend eating a huge fatty steak with butter right before a workout, mostly because it takes about an hour and a half to digest it, but eating it lots of sat fat and protein in general and reducing carbs will switch the body over to relying on fat as a main fuel for general body functions even when not working out. It just tends to lean you out, and helps repair insulin sensitivity. I firmly believe the human body was meant to run on fat as the primary fuel source, and that everything improves when that is the case. But, yes, in the case of elite athletes, a bit more carbs are needed to replace the glucose burned in anaerobic activity. There are also supplements that can dramatically improve the burning of fat as a fuel in the cells, in the mitochondria. Carnitine is amazing for that. If I was working with DeMarcus, I'd have him on a high fat/high protien/ medium and targeted (timing and source) carb diet, with no calorie restriction at all, eating at any time he wanted, lots of sat fat and omegas (likely as a supplement), probably chromium as a supplement to help with insulin sensitivity, and high doses of Carnitine, probably 6,000 mg/day, divided into two doses, on dose being about an hour before workout. Carnitine is fantastic also for increasing aerobic performance since it acts as an escort for fats into the mitochondria to burn as a fuel, which is what the heart cells need during aerobic training, they need lots of fat, sat fat.

I'd also probably put him on some digestive supplements that help with the digestion of fat and protien--Betain HCl, Pancreatin, Probiotics, Taurine.

DeMarcus will never be overweight as long as you and I got his back!

I think we're pretty much in agreement. Staying away from fats during weightloss is a mistake far too many make. Just as not spreading out meals in a mistake. The metabolism runs on energy, therefor you have to eat to lose weight. We've broken this down a fair amount but in reality, with the amount of exercise Cousins is involved in, weight loss shouldn't be a problem.

In the past, if I had a client who could commit to 3 hrs of weightlifting per week, 2 hrs cardio, and moderate changes in their diet, I would fully expect them to lose weight. Cousins is working out that much every 1-2 days. He has access to wordclass nutrition(I assume). With his activity level, just eating a smart, well balanced diet should be enough to see changes.

I also agree with you on carnatine. I would assume he's taking that pre and post workout, along with glutamine, BCAA's, and protein of course. Those would all help with recovery, metabolism, as well as maintaining muscle. I don't think the average person understands how hard it is to lose weight, without losing any strength/explosiveness, which is vital for Cousins.

 

[The Hammer]

I think we're pretty much in agreement. Staying away from fats during weightloss is a mistake far too many make. Just as not spreading out meals in a mistake. The metabolism runs on energy, therefor you have to eat to lose weight. We've broken this down a fair amount but in reality, with the amount of exercise Cousins is involved in, weight loss shouldn't be a problem.

In the past, if I had a client who could commit to 3 hrs of weightlifting per week, 2 hrs cardio, and moderate changes in their diet, I would fully expect them to lose weight. Cousins is working out that much every 1-2 days. He has access to wordclass nutrition(I assume). With his activity level, just eating a smart, well balanced diet should be enough to see changes.

I also agree with you on carnatine. I would assume he's taking that pre and post workout, along with glutamine, BCAA's, and protein of course. Those would all help with recovery, metabolism, as well as maintaining muscle. I don't think the average person understands how hard it is to lose weight, without losing any strength/explosiveness, which is vital for Cousins.

You are hitting the nail on the head, and I think we are for the most part in agreement. Yes on the Glutamine/BCAAs/protein. Those are amazing. Good to hear you know about Carnitine. Did you recommend it in high doses to your clients?

I do hope Kings nutritionists/trainers are implementing that supplemental support. It can make an amazing difference. I never really hear about pro athletes supplemental regimens, with a few exceptions, so I don't know if it is common practice, but I do know it is extremely helpful.

 

[bajaden]

Nope. Wrong. Losing weight and burning fat is a VERY simple thing. You DO NOT restrict fat intake or protein. What you do restrict are sugars and starches. It's all about controlling blood sugar levels and therefore insulin levels, and switching the body's fuel over to burning primarily fat as opposed to primarily glucose. It's really very, very simple. But you do need to eat fat. Just eat fat and protein DeMarcus, you will slim down very easily. Read the book "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes.

I actually read that book. I do think you can go too far in restricting Hydrocarbs, but it does work if things are properly balanced.

 

[The Hammer]

I actually read that book. I do think you can go too far in restricting Hydrocarbs, but it does work if things are properly balanced.

Well, technically, you can't, but keep in mind non-starchy vegetables have carbs. But for the elite athlete, yes, having some carbs is going to be important.

So what did you think of that book?

 

[Prince_XY]

Rain-

Yes, probably a super low carb diet is not the way to go, especially if he is doing a lot of anaerobic workouts. As a nutritionist, I have studied this extensively. Let's go ahead and have this debate: you left out saturated fats in the healthy fat list. This is something I see so frequently, and in fact, it's just plain wrong. Saturated animal fats are the healthiest fats you can eat, and they are crucial for losing weight. I agree with some of the carb suggestions you gave. However, I'd have him eating less fruit and more fatty meats, butter, coconut oil, etc. The phrase "healthy fats" has come now to only include the monounsaturated and omega 3s that you listed, which is true, they are healthy, but they are not has healthy as saturated fats, especially for someone doing intense exercise. Saturated fats are the preferred fuel for the heart, and the preferred fuel for all aerobic exercise, as they are burned most readily in the mitochondria as a fuel for aerobic activity. Short and medium chain saturated fats also don't need to be emulsified by bile, and therefore are burned immediately as fuel, without the need for insulin. Too much insulin in the blood will contribute to gaining weight. Fat doesn't make you fat, fat makes you skinny, especially saturated fat.

This is what I hate about short little post. They are too limited to explain everything to the point that a good simple suggestion most oftentimes amounts to danger. Cousins will die young of atherosclerosis if you are to be his nutritionist.

I think you should review your bichemistry of lipids,proteins, and carbohydrates with regards to all the bolded statements above because you are misleading a lot of readers.

 

[Telemachus]

Give the kid a chance? He has a good trainer to prepare him for the pre-draft combine. Everybody else came in in top shape except him. He ballooned up to 290lbs from his playing weight of 270. This is like showing up for a CEO job interview in shorts and sandles. That's why I worry about his weight. Remember Jerome James? You can have the best staff around but if no self discipline, you can eat your way to early retirement.

I think sometimes people focus too much on weight and not enough on appearance. On Jerome James BEST day, he still looked overweight and some would say fat. If you were to look at Cousins without knowing what he weighed, you wouldn't think even for a moment that he was fat OR overweight. The point I am making is that we are all different in how we are put together and therefore have different weights that would be appropiate for us.

Whiteside is taller than Cousins, but if he weighed 290 I think most of us would think he looked overweight. However, if Cousins only weighed 237 like Whiteside we would all think he looked way too thin. What Cousins needs to work on IMO, is his conditioning (which he has been working on from the sounds of things).

 

[Larry89]

acai berry? lol

 

[The Hammer]

This is what I hate about short little post. They are too limited to explain everything to the point that a good simple suggestion most oftentimes amounts to danger. Cousins will die young of atherosclerosis if you are to be his nutritionist.

I think you should review your bichemistry of lipids,proteins, and carbohydrates with regards to all the bolded statements above because you are misleading a lot of readers.

Alright, here we go. You are the one who needs to review the science of fats and lipids. And if you have, you've either a. been lied to or b. haven't read enough. I said those things knowing full well the mainstream perception and notions that are out there about saturated fat, 98% of which is completely wrong, and crafted very intentionally by certain industries. I've already cited a book for you to reference. It's the public that has been mislead about saturated fats. They have nothing to do with causing atherosclerosis. Zero. That entire theory is completely made up. It's a giant scam. Like I said, a good starting point is "Good Calories, Bad Calories", also "Fat and Cholesterol Are Good For You".

If you really want to open this can of worms, I hope you are ready to change your mind, and not just throwing more bs out there.

Here are some youtube videos to get you started:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SSCNaaDcE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE&feature=related

Some articles:

http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/525-the-oiling-of-america.html

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/.../four-patients-who-changed-my-life/#more-3923

http://www.westonaprice.org/modern-...-diet-and-recovery-from-chronic-disease-.html

And here are some more books just in case you need some more refereces. In short the Cholesterol Theory, also known as the "Diet-Heart Hypothesis" is 100% bs.

"Fat And Cholesterol Are Good For You" by Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD. This book utterly destroys the myth that saturated fat and/or cholesterol causes heart disease, and thoroughly explains how valuable they are for your health.

"Put Your Heart In Your Mouth" by Natasha Campbell-McBride, MD. Debunks the "Lipid Hypothesis" (saturated fat>cholesterol>heart disease) and explains the true cause of heart disease.

"Life Without Bread" by Christian Allan, PhD, and Wolfgang Lutz, MD. Great book that includes the basic biochemistry of a low-carb diet. Well written for lay people.

"The Vegetarian Myth". By Lierre Keith. Author is a former vegan (20 years), now impassioned with the message of animal based nutrition. Gently but thoroughly demolishes all arguments for vegetarianism including: moral, political, and nutritional. Phenomenal work. Brilliantly and beautifully written. The author writes with a sense of humor, but this is a serious book.

"Eat Fat, Lose Fat" by Sally Fallon and Mary Enig, PhD. Great book to help you understand the importance of fat and cholesterol, especially as they pertain to weight loss, among other things. These two also co-authored an article listed below.

"The Mood Cure" by Julia Ross. Fascinating book by a psychologist who has turned to nutrition (low carb) and specific amino acid therepy to be incredibly successful in treating addiction (including carb addiction) by redressing brain chemistry through amino acid supplementation and low carb, high protein, high fat diets. She runs a large well known clinic in Marin County, California.

"Primal Body, Primal Mind" by Nora Gedgaudas. Very interesting book with many insights about the overall benefits of a very low carbohydrate diet. You'll have to stop paying attention when she starts talking about calorie restriction. You'll also have to overlook the maddening typos and grammar mistakes. But the basic information is great.

"Why Stomach Acid is Good For You" by Jonathan Wright, MD. Great book on digestion. A must read. The author oversees the Tahoma Clinic in Kent, WA. (See Betain HCl below.)

"The No-Grain Diet" by Joseph Mercola, DO. A prominant physician and founder of mercola.com.

"The Cure For Heart Disease" by Dr. Dwight Lundell, MD. The first prominent cardiologist to lead the way with the truth, finally. Correctly explains heart disease as an inflammatory condition as a result of overconsumption of refined carbohydrates and too many Omega-6 oils in the diet from processed vegetable oils, as opposed to the now historical footnote cholesterol/saturated fat scam/myth.

"The Carnitine Miracle" by Robert Crayhon. Thoroughly explains how carnitine helps fat get burned in the energy centers of cells, and other effects of this nutrient, including it's application in helping people with heart disease.

"Protien Power" by Michael Eades, MD. One of the first MDs (back in the early 80s) to begin recommending the low-carb, high fat, high protein diet. See article linked above for a shocker.

"Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution" By Dr. Richard Bernstien, MD. Written more for diabetics, but a lot of the lessons translate to everyone. Shows and guides the reader through basically curing type II diabetes with a low-carb diet.

"The Great Cholesterol Con" by Anthony Colpo. Title is self-explanatory. Big, dense, and incredibly well researched with references.

"Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. Taubes, an investigative journalist, did four years of research and skillfully argues most of the main points of low carbohydrate nutrition in very articulate and convincing fashion. Very well written.

"Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Weston A. Price, DDS. The Grand-Daddy of them all. Many of these other books reference this seminal text, first published in 1939. It is the result of a huge worldwide study done by one man and his wife, over ten years, self funded, on the traditional diets of indiginous people of fourteen different ethnic groups and their counterparts of the same ethnic group who ate modern food. This work is shocking, heart-rending, incredibly informative, and probably the most important book on nutrition ever written.

 

[Prince_XY]

Alright, here we go. You are the one who needs to review the science of fats and lipids. And if you have, you've either a. been lied to or b. haven't read enough. I said those things knowing full well the mainstream perception and notions that are out there about saturated fat, 98% of which is completely wrong, and crafted very intentionally by certain industries. I've already cited a book for you to reference. It's the public that has been mislead about saturated fats. They have nothing to do with causing atherosclerosis. Zero. That entire theory is completely made up. It's a giant scam. Like I said, a good starting point is "Good Calories, Bad Calories", also "Fat and Cholesterol Are Good For You".

If you really want to open this can of worms, I hope you are ready to change your mind, and not just throwing more bs out there.

Here are some youtube videos to get you started:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SSCNaaDcE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE&feature=related

Some articles:

http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/525-the-oiling-of-america.html

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/.../four-patients-who-changed-my-life/#more-3923

http://www.westonaprice.org/modern-...-diet-and-recovery-from-chronic-disease-.html

And here are some more books just in case you need some more refereces. In short the Cholesterol Theory, also known as the "Diet-Heart Hypothesis" is 100% bs.

"Fat And Cholesterol Are Good For You" by Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD. This book utterly destroys the myth that saturated fat and/or cholesterol causes heart disease, and thoroughly explains how valuable they are for your health.

"Put Your Heart In Your Mouth" by Natasha Campbell-McBride, MD. Debunks the "Lipid Hypothesis" (saturated fat>cholesterol>heart disease) and explains the true cause of heart disease.

"Life Without Bread" by Christian Allan, PhD, and Wolfgang Lutz, MD. Great book that includes the basic biochemistry of a low-carb diet. Well written for lay people.

"The Vegetarian Myth". By Lierre Keith. Author is a former vegan (20 years), now impassioned with the message of animal based nutrition. Gently but thoroughly demolishes all arguments for vegetarianism including: moral, political, and nutritional. Phenomenal work. Brilliantly and beautifully written. The author writes with a sense of humor, but this is a serious book.

"Eat Fat, Lose Fat" by Sally Fallon and Mary Enig, PhD. Great book to help you understand the importance of fat and cholesterol, especially as they pertain to weight loss, among other things. These two also co-authored an article listed below.

"The Mood Cure" by Julia Ross. Fascinating book by a psychologist who has turned to nutrition (low carb) and specific amino acid therepy to be incredibly successful in treating addiction (including carb addiction) by redressing brain chemistry through amino acid supplementation and low carb, high protein, high fat diets. She runs a large well known clinic in Marin County, California.

"Primal Body, Primal Mind" by Nora Gedgaudas. Very interesting book with many insights about the overall benefits of a very low carbohydrate diet. You'll have to stop paying attention when she starts talking about calorie restriction. You'll also have to overlook the maddening typos and grammar mistakes. But the basic information is great.

"Why Stomach Acid is Good For You" by Jonathan Wright, MD. Great book on digestion. A must read. The author oversees the Tahoma Clinic in Kent, WA. (See Betain HCl below.)

"The No-Grain Diet" by Joseph Mercola, DO. A prominant physician and founder of mercola.com.

"The Cure For Heart Disease" by Dr. Dwight Lundell, MD. The first prominent cardiologist to lead the way with the truth, finally. Correctly explains heart disease as an inflammatory condition as a result of overconsumption of refined carbohydrates and too many Omega-6 oils in the diet from processed vegetable oils, as opposed to the now historical footnote cholesterol/saturated fat scam/myth.

"The Carnitine Miracle" by Robert Crayhon. Thoroughly explains how carnitine helps fat get burned in the energy centers of cells, and other effects of this nutrient, including it's application in helping people with heart disease.

"Protien Power" by Michael Eades, MD. One of the first MDs (back in the early 80s) to begin recommending the low-carb, high fat, high protein diet. See article linked above for a shocker.

"Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution" By Dr. Richard Bernstien, MD. Written more for diabetics, but a lot of the lessons translate to everyone. Shows and guides the reader through basically curing type II diabetes with a low-carb diet.

"The Great Cholesterol Con" by Anthony Colpo. Title is self-explanatory. Big, dense, and incredibly well researched with references.

"Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. Taubes, an investigative journalist, did four years of research and skillfully argues most of the main points of low carbohydrate nutrition in very articulate and convincing fashion. Very well written.

"Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Weston A. Price, DDS. The Grand-Daddy of them all. Many of these other books reference this seminal text, first published in 1939. It is the result of a huge worldwide study done by one man and his wife, over ten years, self funded, on the traditional diets of indiginous people of fourteen different ethnic groups and their counterparts of the same ethnic group who ate modern food. This work is shocking, heart-rending, incredibly informative, and probably the most important book on nutrition ever written.

Just what I've expected. Everything else is a GIANT SCAM. And just what I have expected - you'll come-up with internet articles and books made by people with M.D. and PhD's. Have you tried reading more refutable sources like American Journal of Cardiology or some other more refutable research papers?

 

[Bricklayer]

Sigh. How about we just skip the enitre world of scams, fad diets, magical pills, good fats, bad fats, good carbs, bad carbs and just have Big Cuz follow the simple immortal rules of eat less, workout more. He's an athlete looking to get even stronger, so you keep enough protein in the diet to repair/build muscle. He will need to eat enough carbs to keep his body fueled upa nd ready to workout. But losing weight is really not that much of a rocket science for the immediate time being. Maybe becoming the 110% best Cuz he could ever be with 5% body fat? Maybe. But for current purposes he is simply overweight, not nearly as built up as he should be given his frame, and can take huge strides forward by doing no more than millions of other people have done without all the conflicting mumbo jumbo. You don't need to know a good carb from a bad fat to make it from 17% body fat down to 10% body fat. You might to make it from 10% to 5%, but he's nowhere close, and may never be. He's a big young athelete, let him just shed 20lbs the way most people do, work out heavily on the side, maybe pay a visit to Camp reke down in L.A., and he can be a whole new man by training camp without fussing over who's book is right or supplement is perfect or anything else. Its not that hard given his position and resources. He can do this if he puts his mind to it and gets solid support from the trainers and team.

 

[The Hammer]

Just what I've expected. Everything else is a GIANT SCAM. And just what I have expected - you'll come-up with internet articles and books made by people with M.D. and PhD's. Have you tried reading more refutable sources like American Journal of Cardiology or some other more refutable research papers?

Give me an effing break. I did not say everything ELSE is a giant scam, I honed in on the Diet-Heart Hypothesis also known as the "Lipid Hypothesis", a very specific theory about heart disease that came out in 1953 from a researcher named Ancel Keys who was funded by the vegetable oil industry as a means to demonize the competition, which was at the time, butter, which is high in saturated fat. It's a very specific theory that came out of nowhere and had many detractors at the time, including Dr. Dudley White, President Eisenhower's personal physician and one of the founders of the American Heart Association. This was all on national television in a panel discussion. It has continued to have many detractors, and the theory has been disproven over and over, most notably by the very studies that were funded in order to prove this bogus idea, such as the "7 Countries Study" and "The Framingham Study". It's a very specific refutation that I am offering. And yes, it is a giant scam. But a person, such as yourself, would actually have to go back and look at the actual data, especially as it is elucidated by some of the detractors of the theory, and come to your own conclusion. I have done more than just read the American Journal of Cardiology, I have looked at the actual data myself, at the actual studies. You are extremely naive if you think that everything in the American Journal of Cardiology can't be questioned, and is based on sound science.

You are the one who is glossing over, not me.

And yes, it is a big deal because it is so wrong, and has led to massive confusion for many people while the real causes of heart disease go unaddressed.

 

[The Hammer]

Sigh. How about we just skip the enitre world of scams, fad diets, magical pills, good fats, bad fats, good carbs, bad carbs and just have Big Cuz follow the simple immortal rules of eat less, workout more. He's an athlete looking to get even stronger, so you keep enough protein in the diet to repair/build muscle. He will need to eat enough carbs to keep his body fueled upa nd ready to workout. But losing weight is really not that much of a rocket science for the immediate time being. Maybe becoming the 110% best Cuz he could ever be with 5% body fat? Maybe. But for current purposes he is simply overweight, not nearly as built up as he should be given his frame, and can take huge strides forward by doing no more than millions of other people have done without all the conflicting mumbo jumbo. You don't need to know a good carb from a bad fat to make it from 17% body fat down to 10% body fat. You might to make it from 10% to 5%, but he's nowhere close, and may never be. He's a big young athelete, let him just shed 20lbs the way most people do, work out heavily on the side, maybe pay a visit to Camp reke down in L.A., and he can be a whole new man by training camp without fussing over who's book is right or supplement is perfect or anything else. Its not that hard given his position and resources. He can do this if he puts his mind to it and gets solid support from the trainers and team.

Because, Brick, those "simple immortal rules" are not accurate. It's not about less calories. Especially for an elite athlete. You are a smart guy Brick, but don't dumb down something you are not well versed in. I don't do that to your profession. I see people every day who get lost and frustrated trying to follow those "simple immortal rules". It matters so much more the types of calories that you eat, as opposed to how many. And the types you need to limit if you are trying to burn fat are sugars and starches, not fat.

 

[UK_King]

uh o.

 

[Aenadin]

the long nba season will trim that fat down...

team tyreke needs to work reke and cousins together.. that would be a formidable outcome

 

[Bricklayer]

Because, Brick, those "simple immortal rules" are not accurate. It's not about less calories. Especially for an elite athlete. You are a smart guy Brick, but don't dumb down something you are not well versed in. I don't do that to your profession. I see people every day who get lost and frustrated trying to follow those "simple immortal rules". It matters so much more the types of calories that you eat, as opposed to how many. And the types you need to limit if you are trying to burn fat are sugars and starches, not fat.

As the great philosopher said, bull hookie.

At best doing it right -- whatever that means given that you poll 1000 trainers and you get 1000 different answers -- makes it a little easier, might increase your results by 25% or something. And that's great and why you pay peeps to help you out. But shocking as it may seem to a modern trainer, people have been successfully engaging in diets for thousands of years before anybody ever wrote the first book on whatever their version of the truth was. There was probably some caveman who dropped 25 lbs to impress a cavegirl by cutting back on his portions of wooly mammoth. When I decided my football days were over and wanted to move on to tennis I once lost 50 lbs on two bowls of cereal a day and a reasonable dinner combined with 2-3 hours of exercise a day. Took me a little over 4 months. I got to the lowest body fat of my life on a Whopper jr., canned green beans, baked potatoes, and hot chocolate diet, combined with an hour of weights and 2-3 hours of basketball every night (I miss the leisure of college). For a girl of course. Every once in a while I would treat myself to these delcicious little carrot cake squares made by a local company back there, and sucked on some hard chocolate candies that alas gave me cavities to satisfy my chocolate addiction. A housemate my senior year was a completely ripped wrestler who went on to win his weihgt class in the Mr. Penn bodybuilding contest, and during the season he would survive on basically nothing but pasta with marinara sauce dumped in cold. Were any of the above examples the absolute most efficient way to go about it? I sincerely doubt it. But they were all done, all imminently doable. Having to drop 20 lbs as a millionaire professional athlete simply does not require all this fussing and fighting. Its a simple where there's a will there's a way proposition. He can hire a chef, has all the professional trainers he could ask for, free access to a gym and state of the art weightlifiting equipment (just stay away from the exercise balls). Its 20 lbs, and he's a 20 year old professional athlete with infinite money and free time to take care of it. If he wants to lose it, its gone.

P.S. I am not in any way attempting to say that I know the absolute best way for DMC to lose his weight. I am saying its ridiculous to say that there is only one way for a young athlete needing to shed 20 lbs to go about it. That is done all the time by all kinds of people who have no knowledge, or the wrong knowledge, or whatever. Its just not that impossible a feat. He could probably lose it eating pizza if he was serious about it.