Warriors @ Kings Game Thread
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.. But he gets it done, and he brings it every night. Peja on the other hand does not!!@!!!!
There are so many fans who have been waiting for Peja to "be the man." Well, folks, he does not have it in him. That is not his game. He can only step up when he has a Vlade or a Doug spoon feeding him.
Bibby is disgusted. Why, because he is busting his butt out there. Peja was the only other regular starter out there and he deserted him. Mike cannot be happy about getting beat by the Warriors at ARCO. But, what is worse is that the man that wants to leave the Kings is still here and he does not show up to play very often.
I will still love the Kings, as I have for 20 years. However, as this team stands, I have no further expectations of them this year. I will just enjoy watching basketball...revel in the wins that we get...and place no expectations on this group of players. I will wait for the off-season and see what happens.
Bibby is disgusted. Why, because he is busting his butt out there. Peja was the only other regular starter out there and he deserted him. Mike cannot be happy about getting beat by the Warriors at ARCO. But, what is worse is that the man that wants to leave the Kings is still here and he does not show up to play very often.
I will still love the Kings, as I have for 20 years. However, as this team stands, I have no further expectations of them this year. I will just enjoy watching basketball...revel in the wins that we get...and place no expectations on this group of players. I will wait for the off-season and see what happens.
I hesitate to do this and will only do so to illustrate a point:
He was off. He was trying but shots weren't going in? Sorry, but if that young man had been wearing a different number, say - oh, just for argument's sake - #4, there would have been NO excuses given him. NONE.
All Peja gets is crap from people? He's a veteran player on our team. He's actually been here LONGER than anyone else! We should be able to count on him. If his outside shot isn't falling, he is 6'10" tall and he should be going inside.
I'm sorry, vj9999, but he doesn't deserve any more passes. He deserves the same strict criticism as anyone else. I didn't see hustle tonight. I saw a half-hearted attempt in the early part of the game.
Speaking personally, I find it very disheartening that I no longer look at the ball in Peja's hands as being a good thing. He shot 4 of 19, with 2 of 8 from outside. That is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Sorry.
He was off. He was trying but shots weren't going in? Sorry, but if that young man had been wearing a different number, say - oh, just for argument's sake - #4, there would have been NO excuses given him. NONE.
All Peja gets is crap from people? He's a veteran player on our team. He's actually been here LONGER than anyone else! We should be able to count on him. If his outside shot isn't falling, he is 6'10" tall and he should be going inside.
I'm sorry, vj9999, but he doesn't deserve any more passes. He deserves the same strict criticism as anyone else. I didn't see hustle tonight. I saw a half-hearted attempt in the early part of the game.
Speaking personally, I find it very disheartening that I no longer look at the ball in Peja's hands as being a good thing. He shot 4 of 19, with 2 of 8 from outside. That is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Sorry.
I love Peja and im still gonna continue to support him (Im thinking we need a GO PEJA thread like our GO KINGS thread so the thread karma can kick in and get Peja back to Peja form)
but it was obvious that he had absolutely NO energy...and i can understand that due to all the great things he did in last nights game...but he needed to make a more conscious effort...he just seemed pretty disinterested out there tonight ::sigh::
Hopefully he'll be ready and well rested (since he didn't exert<--is that a word? much energy tonight) for Tuesday nights game against Portland...::sigh::
but it was obvious that he had absolutely NO energy...and i can understand that due to all the great things he did in last nights game...but he needed to make a more conscious effort...he just seemed pretty disinterested out there tonight ::sigh::
Hopefully he'll be ready and well rested (since he didn't exert<--is that a word? much energy tonight) for Tuesday nights game against Portland...::sigh::
I'm afraid that I will have to go with you on this one. I must add that at no point in this season did Pedja look like he has or is about to get his groove back. At no point in this season did he look like he's a great shooter. In spells, a game or two here and there - maybe, but over first 65 or so games, you have to stop and say something is seriously wrong here. The question is not only is he ever going to get back at his best (and I can live with his poor rebounding as long as he chips in highly efficient 20+ ppg) but if he continues like this he will lose premium value on the off season market, too.
I apologize. I do NOT want to dump on a member of our team. I LOVE THIS TEAM.
But, once again, I saw no real effort on the part of someone who had announced they didn't even want to be here and has yet to show otherwise. He wasn't "off" - that I could have accepted, albeit grudgingly. What he was was non-committed. He didn't try for the rebounds; the ones he got pretty much bounced into his hands. He took quick shots, he took ill-advised shots, etc.
Again, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, I want to watch guys with heart out there giving their all. I don't care if they're pure shooters, or if they have to work very, very hard for each bucket. I just want to see the guys playing who make it really clear they want to be here playing for the Sacramento Kings more than anything else.
And now, I'll stop...
GO KINGS!!!!!
But, once again, I saw no real effort on the part of someone who had announced they didn't even want to be here and has yet to show otherwise. He wasn't "off" - that I could have accepted, albeit grudgingly. What he was was non-committed. He didn't try for the rebounds; the ones he got pretty much bounced into his hands. He took quick shots, he took ill-advised shots, etc.
Again, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, I want to watch guys with heart out there giving their all. I don't care if they're pure shooters, or if they have to work very, very hard for each bucket. I just want to see the guys playing who make it really clear they want to be here playing for the Sacramento Kings more than anything else.
And now, I'll stop...
GO KINGS!!!!!
I have to agree with VF21 and 6th as far as Peja is concerned. I have absolutely no FAITH in him any more. He has been spoon fed his whole time with the Kings and does not know how to take the next step on his own. Daddy Vlade and savior Doug is gone. He is not reliable. TRADE HIM. Let him walk. The Kings will be better for it.
I always considered you fair and objective, even when we disagree.
I am all for criticism of Peja when he performs like tonight, but what threw me off with your comment was "disgusted".
I think Peja should get lot of criticism in the media tomorrow and whenever he performs like this. Tapping him on the shoulder and saying "It's ok, but try a little harder" will not cut it.
Peja is having a weird season. More injuries than usual, big team changes (and he suffers from them more than Mike just because of the kind of game they play). Sure his comments last summer were uncalled for, but alot of people took it to the next level. I know that with Webber gone, we need somebody else to blame everything on.
I am willing to give Peja an off season. If he has 2 off season tan we have a problem.
I always defend everyone no matter what the situation is. I defended Webber, I defended Doug (like last year mid season when everything was blamed on him) and while Peja is wearing a Kings jersey I will defend him (no matter how crap his performances are).
I am all for criticism of Peja when he performs like tonight, but what threw me off with your comment was "disgusted".
I think Peja should get lot of criticism in the media tomorrow and whenever he performs like this. Tapping him on the shoulder and saying "It's ok, but try a little harder" will not cut it.
Peja is having a weird season. More injuries than usual, big team changes (and he suffers from them more than Mike just because of the kind of game they play). Sure his comments last summer were uncalled for, but alot of people took it to the next level. I know that with Webber gone, we need somebody else to blame everything on.
I am willing to give Peja an off season. If he has 2 off season tan we have a problem.
I always defend everyone no matter what the situation is. I defended Webber, I defended Doug (like last year mid season when everything was blamed on him) and while Peja is wearing a Kings jersey I will defend him (no matter how crap his performances are).
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