Livinthedream
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He appears to have decided his niche is to be right, instead of first. If you can't be both, he chose the right one. Not mad at him for that.
Voisin sourced as saying Kings willing to Trade DeMarcus Cousins
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He appears to have decided his niche is to be right, instead of first. If you can't be both, he chose the right one. Not mad at him for that.
I can and will point fingers at them because they sold out a long time ago. The ONLY reason they publish those controversial pieces is to generate revenue, as I said above. That's shoddy and it's dishonest. Real journalism is and should be about more than just selling newspapers.
The Bee never revealed the extent of misdeeds by PDA and his cronies. Why? Because he was one of AV's closest sources. If the purpose of a newspaper is to print the news and be honest and unbiased, which is a joke in and of itself, the Bee is not a newspaper.
How do you know she's lying? Do you think it's impossible that she has some inside knowledge of what goes on behind closed doors? For example, let's just say that it's true there are a few teammates who don't like playing with DMC and want him gone. Don't you think a smart play by them would be to go to her off the record and tell her there is disfunction and they don't like playing with him? Or maybe they heard rumors that Divac was considering shopping him so they dropped that on her to fuel the fire.
That kind of stuff happens all the time with media -- sports, politics, etc.
She didn't come right out and say it. She never does. She drops hints based on "insider information" or unnamed sources that are carefully worded to elicit the most responses.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
Chicken crap!!
Section 101
All-Star
Well, since Grant is part of the organization as a broadcaster....
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I suppose. I don't consider Grant a part of the organization. He'd be a great GM wouldn't he?
I wonder what he would do if in that position.
Padrino
All-Star
it does, indeed, circulate. and quickly:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...demarcus-cousins-trade-market-6-landing-spots
Livinthedream
All-Star
Half truths are lies. Deceptive reporting insinuating something is true, when it's just a guess or a rumor is a lie in journalism and it's harmful when you have a potential large audience. Saying that Cousins only gets along with Rondo....
No source? No direct quotes? Shaky and irresponsible. It's also irresponsible for NBCSports to pick up on an old story that had no traction. There is a reason no one bit.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
That's actually more disappointing, because I expect this from NBC, but Moore has generally been pretty solid. Must be a really slow day at CBS.
itzcoatl
Bench
And not only are they the biggest game in town but I believe a lot of the Kings ownership group overlaps with Sac Republic as well.
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KingMilz
Guest
I would honestly be shocked if they trade Cousins, to me if they are going to trade him it will be prior to the deadline or next season (when he's got 1 year left on contract) if things don't work out.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
If by saying "things don't work out" means we don't win the NBA championship, they'll trade him. It is extraordinary that anyone including a franchise of a TEAM thinks that one person holds so much importance that winning or losing is placed on his shoulders. To heck with the coach, pg, sg, sf, pf, and bench - it's on Boogie. There is also the complexities of putting together a team that functions optimally which rests on the GMs shoulders. It's an easy out. Put together a crappy team and blame it on one player when things don't go right.
King Baller
All-Star
Reporters have to produce articles every day. Remember "Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see."
Nitpick: Voisin is not a reporter. She's a columnist.
fansinceday1
Starter
So now Grant Napier is saying that Caron Butler wasn't entirely truthful during his interview when talking about DMC.
I wouldn't care about this whatsoever however, Grant is the TV voice of the kings. This
means something. His biases are broadcast on a 50,000 watt blowtorch.
I wouldn't care about this whatsoever however, Grant is the TV voice of the kings. This
means something. His biases are broadcast on a 50,000 watt blowtorch.
Wow.
fansinceday1
Starter
This guy has some serious problems with DMC.
Maybe he's pissed that Cousins will give C Dave a big interview and not him. He also said that he hasn't listened to the interview and has no interest in listening to it.
Maybe he's pissed that Cousins will give C Dave a big interview and not him. He also said that he hasn't listened to the interview and has no interest in listening to it.
Blastoff
G-League
Hence, columnists are allowed more editorial slant. She's just bad at her job and chooses favorites, usually the wrong favorites.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
He is depending on the fact (I presume) that the average Kings fan does not know Caron Butler's reputation as a human being. Can we get rid of that jackass?
If that's the case, it's an insult to Dave and to all the listeners of The Grant Napear Show. Your friend and co-worker gets a coveted interview with the face of the franchise of the Sacramento Kings and you don't feel you need to listen to it to possibly be able to discuss it intelligently?
What a biased load of crap. Howdy Doody never fails to impress.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
and there you have it, when you continue to allow toxic people to stick around your organization, you will wreak of a toxic franchise. So the wheel continues to spin, endlessly.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Welcome to Sac Caron! The only NBA stop where you can get called a liar by your own play by play man for sticking up for a teammate. Enjoy!
Don't know anything about the merits of what Voison is reporting. But it seems to me that it is a sure thing that the Cousins/Karl/Kngs situation is being brought up in every interview to fill ou HC position. And well it should. We all lived with the bad situation this last year. Whether Vlade has made up his mind on Cuz or not or if so, either way, you can't decide on a HC hire without airing the problem with each candidate. I can't imagine a circumstance where it wouldn't. This all leads me to suspect that the issue sn't dead yet, one way or the other.
Blob
Starter
Like I said last week, make us an offer, NBA. Looking at you, Danny Ainge. Boogie is a mega talent but selfish, egocentric, moody whiner, with a TS% and assist to turnover ratio and defensive effort over 6 years consistent with the number of wins his team has tallied.
You can have your favorable sentiment towards the guy, but this contradicts some pertinent statistical data on both ends of the floor. High usage and inefficiency on one end as shooter and passer....and questionable defensive effort on the other.
I want to believe in this guy but he makes it difficult with a final game at Arco that was frankly embarrassing. And I think anyone paying close attention should come to similar conclusion.
Boogie became a better player under Karl through the offense Karl designed to maximize Cousins talents....with Rondo as a master set-up man...and still we went nowhere w/ Boogie as the centerpiece, sucking up possession and oxygen from the collective spirit.
And how mentally unstable are you when you get a technical foul when you know said technical results in one game suspension and loss of a decent chunk in money? Are you really that incapable of controlling your emotions?
This has not happened once but twice in two consecutive seasons. Get a grip homie. Anyone that unbalanced is NOT someone I am not super eager to build around with new arena and new coach. A fresh slate seems appropriate especially with WCS position established as more of a center than power forward.
This is the bottom line:
Boogie is a flighty asset who has NOT played in significant NBA games and yet still have found plenty of time to self-implode. So what happens when games actually count in the real playoffs or actual playoff run... neither of which he has ever experienced?
I will tell you what....KA-BOOM. He's going to force shots and commit frustrration fouls and when forced shots and frustration fouls end in predictable result he will blame coach or ref or teammate and anyone but himself.
This is what Vlade is faced with as he tries to elevate team to legitimacy as playoff contender or better. Obviously we do not want to give him away, but fresh start for both parties is most prudent with Boogie to highest bidder....he has two years left on cap friendly deal coming off a 27/11 season. There's a time to field offers and that time is now.
We can try again next year with Boogie, new coach and arena and cast or characters....or we can force teams to overpay this off-season by bidding against each other until no brain proposal is presented. I know what I'd be inclined to do and I think (hope) Vlade shares my sentiment.
You can have your favorable sentiment towards the guy, but this contradicts some pertinent statistical data on both ends of the floor. High usage and inefficiency on one end as shooter and passer....and questionable defensive effort on the other.
I want to believe in this guy but he makes it difficult with a final game at Arco that was frankly embarrassing. And I think anyone paying close attention should come to similar conclusion.
Boogie became a better player under Karl through the offense Karl designed to maximize Cousins talents....with Rondo as a master set-up man...and still we went nowhere w/ Boogie as the centerpiece, sucking up possession and oxygen from the collective spirit.
And how mentally unstable are you when you get a technical foul when you know said technical results in one game suspension and loss of a decent chunk in money? Are you really that incapable of controlling your emotions?
This has not happened once but twice in two consecutive seasons. Get a grip homie. Anyone that unbalanced is NOT someone I am not super eager to build around with new arena and new coach. A fresh slate seems appropriate especially with WCS position established as more of a center than power forward.
This is the bottom line:
Boogie is a flighty asset who has NOT played in significant NBA games and yet still have found plenty of time to self-implode. So what happens when games actually count in the real playoffs or actual playoff run... neither of which he has ever experienced?
I will tell you what....KA-BOOM. He's going to force shots and commit frustrration fouls and when forced shots and frustration fouls end in predictable result he will blame coach or ref or teammate and anyone but himself.
This is what Vlade is faced with as he tries to elevate team to legitimacy as playoff contender or better. Obviously we do not want to give him away, but fresh start for both parties is most prudent with Boogie to highest bidder....he has two years left on cap friendly deal coming off a 27/11 season. There's a time to field offers and that time is now.
We can try again next year with Boogie, new coach and arena and cast or characters....or we can force teams to overpay this off-season by bidding against each other until no brain proposal is presented. I know what I'd be inclined to do and I think (hope) Vlade shares my sentiment.
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sono
Starter
Looks like she's on the hot seat, her columns are not generating enough clicks locally so this is the best she could come up with to get more clicks nationwide. I must admit she's good at it.
I thought the weasel was smoked out and finally the Kings can focus on basketball; then this ... both her and Napier got rabies or something.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
What is this issue that you think needs to be brought up? Boogie has played under one decent head coach in 6 years. Is his contribution that he helps get rid of the trash? If so, thank you Boogie. I doubt this is it because there is clear evidence that ALL but one of the coaches that left this franchise never got an NBA job again. Is this Boogie's fault? Did he hurt those coaches so bad they forgot how to coach?
How did he do with the national team even when he was initially rejected? Did he get into a shrieking contest with the coaches? Did he pout? I don't think so because they invited him back. SOME COACHES, SOME OF THE VERY BEST COACHES, WANT HIM ON THEIR TEAM. Perhaps the approach by Vlade to handle the "Boogie issue" should be to point out the coaches that want him like Malone, Thibs, Coach K and the like. These are the better coaches affiliated with the best players in this country.
We have a player who arguably may be the best center in the NBA who gets techs at a rate historically similar to some other great stars. How bad is that? The only evidence we have of his impact in the locker room is from Caron Butler. Caron is a good man. He said that Boogie was always receptive to critique by his team mates when he screwed up on the court.
So what we have is a spectacular ball player who some of the best basketball minds think is a net positive and who another well known and respected basketball player had no issue with.
Perhaps the 1st question of the coaches is whether that prospective coach can win. I think that is what we want.
Dime Dropper
All-Star
I will dance a merry dance the day that Grant f**ks off back to NY as an irrelevant nobody. Cannot wait until he is no longer the PBP guy or associated with the Kings at all.
