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What exactly does "prove everybody wrong" mean? If it means that Bagley was the better pick for the Kings than Luka, Vlade is absolutely delusional. If he means he's not a complete bust and can be an all-star ... somewhat more realistic but still far from certain at this point.
I mean, at the risk of committing a No True Scotsman fallacy, why would any Kings fan root for him to be wrong?Vlade will come clean on his deathbed, but in the meantime Im rooting for Bagley to prove him right.
That definition of fallacy may need some explaining, it's little early here.I mean, at the risk of committing a No True Scotsman fallacy, why would any Kings fan root for him to be wrong?
There is definitely some truth to this.he also takes responsibility for that pick in the article. I know there was some speculation that maybe he was influenced by other people such as Brandon Williams, but he sets the record straight, even if that influence did exist. personally, i think it was his pick completely. i think he was afraid of looking foolish for selecting a non-athletic player from his neck of the woods instead of an all american. its ironic.
That definition of fallacy may need some explaining, it's little early here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_ScotsmanThat definition of fallacy may need some explaining, it's little early here.
Unfortunately Vlade had to live and eventually die as GM with that pick. Im sure all fans want the best from our players but there seems to be some invested in Vlades failures. I simply hope Bagley comes around.
Thanks for that.. it cleared things up, and to think Im of Scottish ancestry.The No True Scotsman fallacy goes like this:
Angus: "Irish beer?!? Why, no Scotsman would drink a Guinness with his haggis!"
Clyde: "Why, I believe Alistair MacDonald drinks Guinness with his haggis..."
Angus: "Well, no TRUE Scotsman would drink a Guinness with his haggis, I tell you!"
Plus it’s not like Marvin has done anything wrong aside from not be Luka Doncic. It’s not his fault he got picked before Luka. It’s not his fault he got hurt this season (unless he was intentionally smashing his feet for some reason). It’s not his fault his dad is more outspoken than he probably should be.Of course he will defend his pick. I don't see a man of Vlade's character coming out shortly after his departure and throw his pick under the bus immediately after such a short time frame, even if we think that whatever Bagley's career trajectory turns out it won't be anywhere near the impact they hoped for
I think we’re just misunderstanding each others choice of words a bit. Nothing a few Scottish beers in a decent pub wouldn't fix. We are all behind our Kings, I never question one’s loyalties.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Basically, I don't want to accuse anybody of not being a "real" Kings fan, if they don't want Bagley to succeed. I just don't see why they wouldn't?
I will be rooting for MBIII to have a good bounce back year next year. I do hope, now that Vlade has gone, that the support for MBIII will be raised a little amongst the fanbase.
I don’t recall the Bagley skepticism being due to hatred for Vlade. The support for Bags was there until the injuries became a thing and he came into 2019-20 looking exactly the same as he did his first year. While his peers noticeably bulked up and expanded their games.
Or not wanting to be traded to Charlotte for the rights to Kobe.Vlade should try to defend tipping the ball out to Robert Horry while he's at it.
I am really hoping that now Vlade is gone many Kings fans can stop rooting for this kid to fail. I'd be lying if I said his injury status didn't concern me but I'm far from willing to give up on this kid yet.Plus it’s not like Marvin has done anything wrong aside from not be Luka Donic. It’s not his fault he got picked before Luka. It’s not his fault he got hurt this season (unless he was intentionally smashing his feet for some reason). It’s not his fault his dad is more outspoken than he probably should be.
Just maybe this falls under one of many Laws of the Universe. Seperate the player from the man who chose him and reap great rewards. This time next year it will be Luka who? I hopeI am really hoping that now Vlade is gone many Kings fans can stop rooting for this kid to fail. I'd be lying if I said his injury status didn't concern me but I'm far from willing to give up on this kid yet.
Vlade should try to defend tipping the ball out to Robert Horry while he's at it.
It probably never will be at this point and that's ok, I wanted him too, even though I moved to acceptance during his rookie season when the Kings started winning a bit, it will always be hard not to wonder what if. That said, I just want Bagley to be a player worthy of a top 3 pick in any regular draft year.Just maybe this falls under one of many Laws of the Universe. Seperate the player from the man who chose him and reap great rewards. This time next year it will be Luka who? I hope
especially after scoring 23 on 64% that game. or are we having fun again and I'm being too serious (this referring to a game thread this season where the tip was mentioned and i answered seriously with stats and was reprimanded by @Mr. S£im Citrus for not knowing time and score)
Ouch!Vlade should try to defend tipping the ball out to Robert Horry while he's at it.
If you're referring to this, or this, I would classify whatever definition of "reprimand" you're working from to be highly dubious, if not outright disingenuous. I also didn't say anything about "time and score," or anyone's relative knowledge thereof.especially after scoring 23 on 64% that game. or are we having fun again and I'm being too serious (this referring to a game thread this season where the tip was mentioned and i answered seriously with stats and was reprimanded by @Mr. S£im Citrus for not knowing time and score)