Iced Espresso
Starter
Please match Chicago
UPDATE: Bulls match offer sheet for Zach LaVine (NEW Poll)
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Showtime
Starter
I find the lottery purgatory pretty darn boring.
That's a different question. Sure, maybe there's like 10-20% of this signing that has to do with general pressure to succeed on the front office. Bagley's California Classic performance didn't add anything to that, though.
LOL! Care to substantiate your claim that "half the fanbase is up in arms over the suckage" of Bagley? No. Wait. Never mind. I know you can't. Pretend I didn't respond, okay? In addition, that's a topic for a different thread. I may have to start another poll just to test your theory.
Iced Espresso
Starter
We've got to hope they match. They very well may even though the ownership in Chicago is cheap.
If the rumors were right, they may have wanted to pay 18 per, that's not too far away to 20.
Gotta hope those rumors were true.
M_Barragan
Bench
I say sometimes you have to roll the dice. I like Lavine I low key want Chicago not to match it.
Double-K
Starter
Well, you are absolutely 100% correct. I have no rights to tell you how to be a fan.
I was merely sad to see a side hobby ruining someone's free time, most of us are hard workers day in and day out, all I want after that is some simple entertainment as a spark. I just meant, if this side hobby is so draining on you, you can always turn it off for a while.
But hey, you go on and be you.
Dude lighten up. He's not being dumb and there's no need for the name calling. All he was doing was what I did in a different post - pointing you (somewhat with tongue in cheek) to the "I'm done with this effing team" thread.
Kingsfan23
All-Star
If he continues to show what he has in the California Classic and no drastic roster moves were made I’m not sure Vlade survives the year, from the FO or fans
Does that influence whether they would go for a high risk/high reward play more? That depends I guess on how you read it personally I guess
Double-K
Starter
From all indications, The Bulls seem to be pretty high on him and planning on having him as one of the building blocks, so you never know.
Showtime
Starter
I would love this deal if this was a team that could actually get a good free agent and were planning to pair him with another FA signing next year when their expiring deals are off the books, or if they were able to make a deadline deal to ship out their expiring vets for a quality player. But I don't have the faith in this team to do those things, so I doubt this will pan out. I'm getting George Hill vibes about this.
Grant is right: you need depth and versatility on your team to be good. But guess what: good teams don't pay their bench depth 20 million a year. Good GMs don't make this deal if they were running the Kings. Good teams don't make these kinds of bad decisions. Bad ones do.
parker
Bench
Even if you think the first pairing is better than the second, there is no guarantee that the Kings would have gotten Randle to come here.
KingsFanSince85
All-Star
It tells me that CHI is trying to save face from the Jimmy Butler trade.
Even then, it's not about whether LaVine a good player. He certainly has strengths. It's about fit and common sense.
Jusuf Nurkic is a good young player too. But with all the front court players the Kings have now, would it make sense to offer him 80M? NO!
Signing LaVine is redundant when the Kings have Buddy Hield and Bogdan Bogdanović, among others than can play the 2. Signing LaVine at the expense of either of those players is counterproductive to the direction the team has been going.
I understand your frustration, truly I do, but I was trying to just lighten the mood a bit. I honestly lumped you with others in regards to some of my comments, and for that I do apologize. You're right. You and I do align in a lot of ways.
One part, however, was true. Vlade made the Bagley can play the 3 comment, but it was taken out of context and he did later walk it back and explain more fully what he meant.
Blob
Starter
The Chicago Tribune is reporting the Bulls "proactively negotiated with LaVine in good faith with a strong, multiyear offer that sources said fell in the $18 million range annually."
But that's kind of who you are, isn't it? At least your persona here. I think you try and be optimistic but you're a pessimist by nature and things like this just reinforce the pessimist part. I mean no disrrespect at all, by the way. You're as mercurial in your fandom as I am in mine, just in different ways, so I do empathize with your feelings.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
Sounds like we are just being used as leverage especially since it's been stated he came to us first.
In 2 days this will be a non issue, although I'm openly stating I'd love to have him on the team.
If our offer is $78 that's only $19.5M annually. Seems like they're arguing chump change difference at this point, doesn't it?
Iced Espresso
Starter
I do think it's about a coin flip they will match.
PHXSUNSFAN
Bench
That's kind of what I'm thinking. I coined the phrase recently and I think it fits - We're being "Iguadola'd" again.
Iced Espresso
Starter
Thanks for confirming the rumor Blob.
SacKings123
G-League
That's exactly what I was thinking unless he believes in the future the Kings are headed.....
Double-K
Starter
KingsFanSince85
All-Star
Which I believe is unwarranted too. So if we can all agree to not go down either of those roads, I'm on board.
I apologize for and withdraw the comment. As I said, nothing personal towards any member of this site. I'm just very upset with the continued direction of the Kings franchise and my ire rests with Vlade, Vivek and the rest of the front office. And I and those that share my view have every right to feel that way. Those of you on the other end of the spectrum have the right to feel the way you do too, which is why I'm not telling anyone to visit a different thread....
