Tyreke Evans.

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nbaFan

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#91
hes sucking right now. We have expectations out of him and def is not living up to them, hes regressed, but so has the whole team.
 
#92
My point was that it didn't matter what you called him. Thats just semantics. If we decide to suddenly call him a SG, he's still the same player doing the same things. And if he was ineffective before, he'll still be ineffective afterwards. The point is that every team is geared up to stop Tyreke from getting to the basket. And thats not going to change whether he's a PG or a SG. He still needs to develop an outside shot of some kind, even if its only a mid-range shot. That doesn't change if you start calling him a SG instead of a PG. I've never been on any bandwagon as to what Tyreke is. I don't care what you want to call him. He's still the same player with the same skills. If you want to trade for a true PG and put him on the floor with Tyreke, thats fine with me. But is possible that he'll be less effective overall. And thats fine to as long as it leads to wins. Because thats what I'm all about. I'm not into player worship.

Back when I started watching Pro basketball there was no such thing as a PG. They were both just guards. Bob Cousy and Bill Sharman both played in the backcourt for the Celtics, and you could argue that both could play the PG position. Pearl Monroe and Walt Frasier both played in the backcourt together and both of them could have been considered PG's. We get too caught up in this definition of what position a player plays and therefore whats expected of him because of it.

I'm not disagreeing with you about the things Evans needs to do to become a complete player. We knew that going into the season. At this point I'm more concerned about his foot than I'am anything else. There's something wrong with the dude. And I doubt it has anything to do with his weight.
I thought about this and i should had included it in my last post. Whether or not you call him a PG or a SG does matter, because they play at different positions on the court. A PG hangs around the top of the key/ front perimeter area, while a SG plays off the ball, at the wing, left/right block, backdoor areas. I think this is a very important factor in the difference between a PG and SG. Also, the fact that Reke is a natural scorer instead of a natural playmaker would allow him to fit better in the SG position. I think itd be better and easier for him to develop into possibly one of the best passing SG's in the league, than the biggest PG with average PG skills.

With this , itd be easier to run an offense, and would be easier to coach, which could lead to a better team.
 
#93
That much at lest is the offense. Guards rarely can spontaneously go down and just post somebody up without it being a designed play. IN particular on our team that abruptly has a lot of bigs down in the painted area. We've been running some post sequences alng the left block for him, and they've been pretty effective,but lie everything else n this team we never stick with it. Note too that this is where the failure to find a full sized backcourt mate for Tyreke really hurts. If Tyreke was matched by opposing PGs we could go to him in the post all day long and teams would have no chice but to double. But as it stands today he is constantly being checked by the opposing team's best SG/SF stopper, many of whom are bigger than he is. He could dominate PGs in the post on sheer size/strength. But to be able to take similar sized or bigger players into the post will take years of practice/improvement as a post player. Took Jordan until his late 20s to become run-the-offense-through-me lethal down there, and he had the advantage of really being able to jump.
Reke would be like a SG, and the larger guard would be like a PG?
 
I have to say, Rose is head and shoulders above Tyreke right now. Tyreke has been underwhelming so far this season. He really has not added anything new to his reportoire. What has he done this off season?
 

gunks

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Well, jumper seems a bit better....As in it has gone from nonexistant to suck. Still, jumpers take a lot longer than one offseason to fix.

He has seemed to have fallen in love with it a bit, but a lot of that is because he is injured/teams are really stacking the lane against him.

Reke's BBIQ is the most disturbing thing, but that isnt going to improve until he gets a good coach. Considering we're on bad coach number 4 here in Kingsland, I am not going to hold my breath on this one.

Plus, 2nd year is toughest for young stars.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Quick history lesson:

Derrick Rose, October/November of last season (which he began struggling with injuries):
Oct: 11.5pts (.450 .000 .625) 3.5reb 4.5ast 0.5stl 0.5blk 1.5TO
Nov: 16.2pts (.464 .200 .875) 2.9reb 5.3ast 1.0stl 0.3blk 3.2TO

He seemed to turn out all right. Talent is talent.
 
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