Tyreke evans versus derrick rose....

kishonhagler

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Hi kings fans...my name is kishon hagler...I created a account awhile ago but lost all of the information...anywho I am born and raised in chicago...so you can only imagine what its like being a kings fans out here lol...I have been in many debates about the kings roster compared to the bulls and it always starts as who the better player derrick rose or tyreke evans....people here say im bias because im a kings fans...but what they fail to realize is that I watch the kings and the bulls so i know alot about both teams...people out here will only catch the kings on sports center...its funny because one fan didnt even know we had carl landry lol...So im here to ask you guy honestly whos better....I say drose is the better pg but far as complete rounded player hands down tyreke...thoughts??
 
Rose is more explosive/athletic. Reke is stronger.

Both have questionable jump shots, though Rose developed a steady mid range last year and it looks like he added a 3 pt arsenal this year.

Both have adequate court vision and both have a bright future ahead of them.

If you're talking about ceiling potential. I'll take Tyreke any day of the week. If he ever develops a deadly jumpshot and learns to not force possessions, you will have yourself the Lebron of guards. Absolutely no one will be able to stop him. Bigger & stronger guys will be fooled by reke's craftiness ala artest while smaller guys will be run over.

Rose on the other hand will be this explosive fireball wherein he could blow by anybody and bury J's from all over the place. But, once you find an equally quick & strong defender, there exists the possibility of slowing him.
 
D. Rose is clearly the superior player. Reke needs to get that jumpshot down pat and decision making and then we can start talking about this in a few seasons when they both have established themselves as "vets".
 
We'll have to wait about 3 years to find out. Right now; it's Rose, but 'Reke's almost a rookie.

Ditto this! No offense, but lets have this conversation in about 5 years when we know more about the finished product.. But for starters, they're very different players. Ten years from now it could be like comparing Steve Nash to Dwayne Wade. I'll take both!
 
Both Reke and Rose are awesome guards! Hard to say they are PGs more then combo guards! I'm a big fan of both and both of them going to college in Memphis and coming out in back to back years is amazing!
Rose is amazing athletic and quick and strong...Reke is very powerful and creates mismatches all the time as a PG!
They both have great futures! I can see Reke being the Lebron of PGs!
Rose is shooting a lot better and if Reke can get his shot to fall consistently the sky is the limit!
 
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Didn't Rose get 39 points the other night.

Yes he did and he is carrying the Bulls along with Noah until Boozer gets back. The Utah trio the Bulls got this year haven't showed up yet! :-(

The Bulls are so lucky that they won the lottery and got Rose the local boy and didn't take Beasley instead!

The Kings while not winning the lottery did very well picking Evans and now Cousins! Way to go GP!
 
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I don't see the high end for Rose, never have. Not even about him, its about his size and what he is. Now two games into thw season he had a big game and has big all around numbers, and if that holds maybe we'll need a new mold. But otherwise he is not big enough to be a physical guard, not a good defender or rebounder, and so mostly a scorer/passer. And what is the high end for a tweener sized scorer/passer? There is a real problem there -- a cap. You score TOO much, you actually begin to drain the rest of your team if you're a PG, and the only modern guy you really have to look to once you get above about 24ppg is Iverson. Maybe Monta. You have no other models. Now you can pass more of course, and end up as a 20-10 guy and compete with Deron/CP3, and that's a worthy high end goal which would require a HUGE step forward in his passing ability and court vision. But without the other things its not quite franchise player stuff. I have repeatedly asked various people to tell me who is Rose's high end comparison. Who's shoe's is the myth of the Rose as franchise guy supposed to walk in, and there are no answers. 6'3" 190lb scoring PGs without the all around game are not true franchise players, or have never been until now. Perennial All Star, sure. But MVPs, champions as the main man...who's the model?

Reke has always had the clearer path to the top. We have seen both the giant physical PGs ala Oscar or Magic or Penny (who was not as good as people claim) and of course the entire MJ/Kobe/Wade class of SGs his size as well. All of those guys, at whichever position, had physical dominance and filled up every corner of the stat sheet. He may or may not make it, but the paths are clear there. Guys built like Reke have made it before.
 
I'd rather have Rose instead of Reke everyday of the week and twice on sundays. Heck, i'd drive Tyrone to the airport myself if we could Rose here. Rose+DMC = wowowow
 
I donno, im really looking forward to how they do this season. But Tyreke in his rookie year against Rose in his sophomore in that Kings vs Bulls 35 point come back may say something about the two... But then again we did have players like ime and brockman who contributed a whole lot.
 
I donno, im really looking forward to how they do this season. But Tyreke in his rookie year against Rose in his sophomore in that Kings vs Bulls 35 point come back may say something about the two... But then again we did have players like ime and brockman who contributed a whole lot.

The Bulls, on the other hand, did have Vinny Del Negro...
 
At this point it's a pick-em situation, same with upside I think. Depends on how you see the future playing out I guess.

Rose I see as a more traditional PG type, Tyreke is more of a freak of nature type that gives him an advantage in certain areas. On the other hand some quicker guards could blow by him, so it depends on how you look at his physical gifts. Still history has shown us that exceptionally physically gifted athletes can use that to their advantage and I think Tyreke is smart enough to really milk his.

IDK if anyone has not seen this by now but it's a must-see. At every level they were a good matchup.

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Personally I think it is way too early to say who will be the better of the two players. I do find it interesting that so many put Rose ahead of Evans right now, though. Here are their stats from last season (Tyreke as a rookie, and Rose in his 2nd year).

Tyreke: 20.1 pts, 5.7 asts, 1.5 stls, 5.3 rbs, 45.8 FG%, 25.5 3pt%, 74.8 FT%
Rose: 20.8 pts, 6.0 asts, 0.7 stls, 3.8 rbs, 48.9 FG%, 26.7 3pt%, 76.6 FG%

Those numbers don't really give either player a big advantage IMO. If anything, they lean in Tyreke's favor simply because he was a rookie while Rose had a year of experience.
 
yea but see the thing with derrick rose is when his team needs him to step up the most...far as 4th period play he slumps...noticed...kings comming back from 35pts...down the stretch tyreke simply took over...rose didnt...and this is a common issue i have with him he kill teams through-out the ball game but when the situation becomes tight he doesnt do anything...tyreke onther other hand all read has 2 game winners...and nermous game changing shots...i havent seen that from rose....please explain to me what derrick rose do better than tyreke??..other than being faster
 
I dNow you can pass more of course, and end up as a 20-10 guy and compete with Deron/CP3, and that's a worthy high end goal which would require a HUGE step forward in his passing ability and court vision. But without the other things its not quite franchise player stuff. I have repeatedly asked various people to tell me who is Rose's high end comparison. Who's shoe's is the myth of the Rose as franchise guy supposed to walk in, and there are no answers. 6'3" 190lb scoring PGs without the all around game are not true franchise players, or have never been until now. Perennial All Star, sure. But MVPs, champions as the main man...

Steve Nash?
 
yea but see the thing with derrick rose is when his team needs him to step up the most...far as 4th period play he slumps...noticed...kings comming back from 35pts...down the stretch tyreke simply took over...rose didnt...and this is a common issue i have with him he kill teams through-out the ball game but when the situation becomes tight he doesnt do anything...tyreke onther other hand all read has 2 game winners...and nermous game changing shots...i havent seen that from rose....please explain to me what derrick rose do better than tyreke??..other than being faster

Rose's claim to clutchness would be that he has stepped up in the playoffs. Of course Reke hasn't had the chance yet.
 
Rose's claim to clutchness would be that he has stepped up in the playoffs. Of course Reke hasn't had the chance yet.

i see your stance but honestly sir...who do you thinks the better player is...not pg...i think rose is a better pg but reke is the better ALL ROUND player....yes rose is killing it first two games but hes also averaging 28.5 shots so i mean hes doing good but i watched the first to games and hes dominating the ball more than reke so far
 
Steve Nash?

Pure point. Purest of pure actually. Different breed.

Also shoudl be noted never did win a championship and is a ratehr starnge story all aorund. But the big difference is Nash was a 12apg guy, Rose is a 6apg guy. Barring an amazing revolution to his game, he's going to have the most value as a scorer.
 
if tyreke had rose's athleticism he would be in the lebron category. all he would need is a jumpshot. i see tyrekes ceiling as a top 10 player in the league. at the same time is can see tyreke having a having a more effective career over time because he doesn't rely on athleticism as much as his strength and ball handling ability and touch around the rim. on the other hand rose's drives are all speed and explosive jumps something that will deteriorate over time. i think rose, reke and wall will be compared for years for obvious reasons.
 
Rose is good but Id rather have the potential of a 6foot6 pointguard, what evans lacks in pure pointguard mold he makes up for his ability to guard up to the smaller SF.

btw question is who would be the better defender for me cause im looking at it statwise got to be reke.
 
i think rose, reke and wall will be compared for years for obvious reasons.

How about throwing Westbrook in that list.

Right now i say, DRose based on his involvement in the Team USA, he was effectively the 2nd best player behind Durant. He also has that mid range shot and floater in traffic. Also, some people would always pick DRose as better because he is more seen in the NBA Highlights often than Tyreke. :)

I still love Tyreke with all that he brings to the team. Hopefully he develops a consistent jump shot, mid range turn around shot, and if he had that above the rim hops, he would be literally be a DWade clone.
 
I still love Tyreke with all that he brings to the team. Hopefully he develops a consistent jump shot, mid range turn around shot, and if he had that above the rim hops, he would be literally be a DWade clone.

Except he's bigger and taller than Wade.
 
How did you end up a Sacramento Kings fan being born and raised in Chicago? I'd like to hear this.
 
Seriously. I'm born and raised in LA, hate the lakers, barely even knew who the kings were, and was a die hard MJ/bulls fan haha

Ever since Jordan retired though Ive been a kings fan since 99
 
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