Two cuts announced

I pretty much figured Daniels was gone. With Paulding also out of the picture, I have to guess the next cut will probably be Flores.
 
Ahhh.. Paulding got cut.... would of at least liked to see him get in a game (I know he wouldn't of made the NBA roster, but I think would of been nice for the DL). Oh well. He seems and sounds like a talented player that can make it somewhere.

Daniels, I thought would show a little something with his self-improvement over the summer, but didn't.
 
You could see it coming anyways. As unfortunate as it is, the less players will really help us focus on our MAIN players now especially in practise and especially with the season right around the corner.
 
Like I said in another thread, I think Sampson will be the 12th man. He's an NBA guy, and proved he could play well with the Bobcats in limited minutes (bit more limited here probably, but it gives good indication). He'd bring added size, shot-blocking, rebounding that is needed, and nice to have. Whenever he'd play :).

Price or Luke to DL.

HndsmCelt said:
All well and good but why is Napolen Dynamite still out there? DL material? Comic relife?
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Size, potential, and skills he has. I'd say DL-material, like Price too (so far).
 
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Kings113 said:
Originally Posted by HndsmCelt
All well and good but why is Napolen Dynamite still out there? DL material? Comic relife?

Size, potential, and skills he has. I'd say DL-material, like Price too (so far).
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What skills do you speak of?
 
http://www.hoopshype.com/players/luke_schenscher.htm

He's added some mass since the Spring over the summer, which isn't noted there (likely done after the Draft), but here:

October 6, 2005 - Day Three

Day three of camp and a noticeable new face made his presence known on the court Thursday.

Luke Schenscher, formerly of Georgia Tech and a second round pick of the Denver Nuggets this past draft, suited up in Kings’ practice gear and worked out for the first time with his new teammates after getting claimed off waivers by Sacramento on Wednesday afternoon.

One of the first observations of Schenscher is that he immediately becomes the biggest guy in camp. At 7’2, he towers over Anwar Ferguson and Brad Miller, and his flowing mane of red, curly locks makes him look even bigger. He used that size a couple of times to hit a nice little jump hook over his defender.

The other thing that was interesting is the amount of bulk he has added since his college days. Those who remember him from Georgia Tech will recall a string bean with no meat on him. But Schenscher now looks more proportioned to his height with some muscle on him—he supposedly added 18 pounds over the summer while working out in Denver.

And while catching up with the rest of his new teammates may take a little time, the one area Luke doesn’t have to worry about is conditioning—having to work out in the Mile High City will put you in pretty good shape.

Schenscher adds another dimension and interesting angle to camp, making the competition for roster spots that much more interesting.
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http://www.nba.com/kings/news/Training_Camp_Blog_05-152742-58.html

Error there is he didn't get drafted by Denver, but was invited to their camp undrafted.
 
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He added 18 lbs? He must have been REALLY skinny.

Too bad for Daniels and Paulding, but I guess thats the NBA. Hopefully they can continue to improve and get on a squad somewhere (read: EUROPE ;) )
 
Paulding already went overseas to Israel, which is where he was for the past year after being cut by the Pistons as their 2nd round pick in 2004. So, I think he ends up somewhere in the league, he seems like a talented athletic guard.

Daniels, I don't know... overseas or a minor league.
 
thank god they cut daniels....he is just not NBA material..wasn't he on the roster all of last year, just on the IR? shows you how much our depth has improved if a guy can go from a person on the roster, albeit the IR, to being cut before two people destined for the NBDL
 
Daniels looked desperate last night and it didn't help at all. He looked awful, I hope he can catch on somewhere else as filler, he seemed like a nice guy.
 
Like I said, he improved himself over the summer and played pretty well in the VSL. I was expecting him to show something, but didn't. There was a section about it in July in Sacbee. Probably been posted on here.
 
Problem with Daniels is yes he got in shape and is down to like 215 pounds. That makes a great SF or very small PF. Problem is we are very well stacked in those 2 areas. Why Eric Sandren don't just pack up and go is beyond me.
 
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Problem with Daniels is yes he got in shape and is down to like 215 pounds. That makes a great SF or very small PF. Problem is we are very well stacked in those 2 areas. Why Eric Sandren don't just pack up and go is beyond me.
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Wasn't just that. But yeah, as things developed I don't think Daniels had a very good chance. Sandrin I think will ultimately be let go also.
 
Padrino said:
would you, given the opportunity?
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lol, seriously...

obviously if Sandrin made it past the first two cuts, one of whom was on the roster all last year, i dont know why he should pack up and go....and isnt he one of the bigger guys in camp (i hav been to busy to follow enough...correct me if im wrong)
 
IMHO, what Kings like about Sandrin is his great ability to pass and his athleticism.

Since I read somewhere that the minimum number of players on the roster must be 14, then I suspect that 3 of the camp invitees will make the cut. I suspect that Price and Sampson will make it while Schenscher, Flores and Sandrin fight it out for the final spot.

If Price makes the cut, then I suspect that Flores won't.
 
It's very irony to me. If we go back to the last year, I think Price, Flores, Sandrin, and Luke would be welcomed. (ex : Eddie House. When he attend this camp-just imagination-, do you think he can make it?) However currently we have so many good players, so we have to cut a few players, who have talents.

I'm sad AND happy at the same time. (That's very funny.) And I hope to see 14-15 players on roster, if available.

By the way, how do you think about Sandrin?

I saw only one photograph (at Fandemonium, dunk contest) and read some articles at Kings Training Camp blog from kings.com - which say he has good body, good jumping ability, nice passing, and even some perimeter shooting. That makes me very interesting. If we don't have Garcia, I think Sandrin make it. But with so many forwards, maybe it's very difficult.

I wonder your opinions.

ps : Ah, this is my first posting at this forum, though I had read a lot. I'm Korean and live in Korea now-Actually Sandrin's mother is also a Korean, that's another reason which I watch him carefully-. Please, try to understand my bad Enlglish. Nice to meet you. :)
 
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Welcome, HaraWish!! Your English is just fine.

I would like to see Sandrin kept, but I really just don't see space for him. The question is going to be...How many guys does RA keep on the active roster (minimum is 13...I believe...and maximum is 15...again, I am not sure). I believe the Kings will keep the minimum and no more.
The NBDL is another story. Has anyone ever seen the final setup of this league and how we protect players that we put there from other teams grabbing them up?
 
My understanding is that any players we put on the roster would be under contract with the Kings so if the 13th player for example is Price since he would be a rookie we could send him to our NBDL league team and could call him back to active roster position if one of the 12 "active" roster players are injured. I think he can be called up and sent back up to 3-4 times during the season.

There is no danger of another team taking him since he is under contract and paid by the Kings
 
I also think Jamal sampson will be the 12th man on active roster with Price going to NBDL, We wont see him in regular season unless Mike or Jason has an injury, in which case he will be brought up to play 2nd PG. Jamal will probably ride the pine and only get some garbage min, sort of similar to Eric Daniels last year. The eleven players that are getting the bulk of the minutes during the preseason will get the only substantial minutes this year. Except for Mike or Jason I think it would take two injuries to the bigs before Jamal sees a lot of minutes. Im not sure if Jamal would qualify for the NBDL he may have too much NBA time for that.
 
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My understanding is that any players we put on the roster would be under contract with the Kings so if the 13th player for example is Price since he would be a rookie we could send him to our NBDL league team and could call him back to active roster position if one of the 12 "active" roster players are injured. I think he can be called up and sent back up to 3-4 times during the season.

There is no danger of another team taking him since he is under contract and paid by the Kings
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I think that's right -- the only fuzziness seeming to be the exact number of players.

Kind of interesting actually, if you're a lawyer at least: ;)

1) The Maloofs say they want to keep 13, suggesting that that's as many as they will pay for.

2) The new CBA specifies that all teams MUST keep 12 active players, and 1 inactive player for each game. So 13 total. Guys in the NBDL count as inactive too. You can designate a guy for NBDL assignment no more than 3 times in a season.

3) The new CBA also interestingly requires that in AGGREGATE (meaning all the teams together) each NBA team must on average employ 14 players per season.

14) So that seems to indicate that a) the Maloofs are really just holding to the new minimum # of players under the new CBA -- i.e., they are required to pay 13 guys, so they are going to pay 13 guys. Also means that the Maloofs therefore are kind of putting it on another team out there to keep 15 guys so that the average will stay at least 14 players per team. (and if the average is not 14 per team, the NBA has to pay the Players' Association the equivalent of a minimum vet contract for every player less than an average of 14 that was employed (i.e. 30 teams x 14 = 420, so if it turned out only 400 were employed in a year, the NBA would have to pay the Player's Association a sum equal to 20 vet minum contracts).
 
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Jkbiker said:
Im not sure if Jamal would qualify for the NBDL he may have too much NBA time for that.
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Nope -- has been in the league three years, so can't be sent to the NBDL.
 
Bricklayer said:
14) So that seems to indicate that a) the Maloofs are really just holding to the new minimum # of players under the new CBA -- i.e., they are required to pay 13 guys, so they are going to pay 13 guys. Also means that the Maloofs therefore are kind of putting it on another team out there to keep 15 guys so that the average will stay at least 14 players per team. (and if the average is not 14 per team, the NBA has to pay the Players' Association the equivalent of a minimum vet contract for every player less than an average of 14 that was employed (i.e. 30 teams x 14 = 420, so if it turned out only 400 were employed in a year, the NBA would have to pay the Player's Association a sum equal to 20 vet minum contracts).
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Hmmm, so if the NBA pays for 10 vet min contracts, do any of the teams get to use these free players? or does the Player's Assoc just pocket the cash?

Wierd, I dont see the incentive for the teams to pay for more than 13 players, especially if over the salary cap.

And I dont see how players would benefit if the Assoc gets a wad of cash.
 
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