Tropical Island Video Vault Draft - ROUND 20 - FINAL ROUND

[Superman]

seeing it once was enough for me.

qft.

 

[Dime Dropper]

Well it has been taken now so you can't complain that nobody took it. Seeing it once was enough for me.

I wasn't completely serious in my post, although I am surprised it was still available. I realise it's not the type of film some people would watch more than once, but for me, the best films are always re-watchable. I'm happy to have such a moving, well-made film that is a true representation of one of the most tragic periods of recent history.

I think the reason this movie fell is two fold. The rewatchability factor (i.e. pure entertainment standpoint), but also the gut wrenching pain this film personifies. This was such a horrific period for the planet, as millions of people were murdered in mass genocide. This isn't the type of film I want to keep returning to over and over. Too close to home, making me fathom how lucky I am not to live in Germany during the Holocaust, or through such trying times.

I own it, and have watched it 2-3 times total, and can't find the mood I'd be in to say, "hey, you know, I really want to watch Schindler's List". Perhaps marrying a German citizen has muddled this for me, but while I rate it as an all time GREAT film; it was incredibly important subject matter to make a film about, and was done with remarkable skill and artistry by Spielberg et. al., I just can't bring myself to continue to put myself through that kind of agony. Having said that...put me on a deserted island for 40 years, and I might be masochistic enough to endure several more viewings.

It's a beautiful film, despite the subject matter. The fact that someone risked everything to help out people desperately trying to survive when he had no reason to is pretty inspirational stuff. A sign that even in the worst of times, good can prevail, at least to a certain degree. On a desert island, all lonely and isolated, it helps to know the things could be much, much worse. This film would make me appreciate everything that much more on the rare occasion that I would watch it (it's obviously not one you flick on every couple of months).

On your second paragraph, I believe someone made a similar point very early on in the draft. It's not a thought-process I subscribe to, as I personally find the best movies to be the most re-watchable. There are always new things to pick up and appreciate, which normally isn't the case with throw-away, happy flicks. I'm happy to have a movie of such significance at this point in the draft, and don't really see how it could be a negative for a 20th round pick.

 

[Larry89]

I guess i have the honor of closing out the draft

 

[Larry89]

And with the last pick in the draft...



Cool Hand Luke 1967 PG

What we have here is a failure to communicate...


I'd like to thank everyone who participated in this draft and made this draft possible.. Its been a good one!

 

[Warhawk]

qft.

Same here.

I bought Forrest Gump after seeing it in the theater. I've seen it once since then. Like SL, a VERY good movie but I just don't pull it off the shelf to watch it.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Well you've done better than I have, I picked up Forest on Blu when I saw it under 12 bucks and it sits on my shelf in its shrinkwrap. But its ready if mom or someone with that kind of taste comes over and wants to watch a movie on my rig.

 

[kingsnation]

My rankings are in

 

[Bricklayer]

I wanted to take the 2nd Bourne, auditioned The Untouchables for the spot that eventually went to Road to Perdition, seriously considered a hip mob comedy duo of Get Shorty and The Whole Nine Yards (for some reason they felt like a team to me, take both or take neither) for late picks in place of some of my little guys/less popular movies. But the above movie was the one that kept on passing by and that really surprised me. I looked at it for every pick in my last 5 but tried to play this one straight.

 

[William Blake]

Citizen Kane is in the undrafted list too, waiting for a training camp invitation.

For the record my two best contenders for the final pick were Control (Ian Curtis' biopic) and Divorce Italian Style (Hilarious Italian comedy that you should really watch).

 

[Jespher]

And that's a wrap. Great draft everyone!

So far I have received 3 rankings already. Nice work, keep them coming .

As for the films that I was borderline on, I was contemplating a Nic Cage action film (The Rock/Gone in 60 Seconds), another musical/music filled film (The Sound of Music/August Rush) and another one of Natalie Portman's youthful/overly mature roles (Beautiful Girls...Would have been a great segway into that upcoming draft too.)

 

[jalfa]

I know, nobody asked me, but: I would've liked to have a Jarmusch film drafted (Dead Man, Ghost Dog, Broken Flowers, Limits of Control, whatever) and maybe also one by Sophia Coppola (preferably The Virgin Suicides or Lost in Translation) or Wes Anderson (The Life Aquatic, The Royal Tennenbaums, The Darjeeling Limited, Bottle Rocket, and props to the one who picked up Fantastic Mr. Fox). Four Rooms would've been nice, Gangs of New York, In the Name of the Father, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Paths of Glory, Blow or Traffic. That about sums it up, though.

 

[Dime Dropper]

I know, nobody asked me, but: I would've liked to have a Jarmusch film drafted (Dead Man, Ghost Dog, Broken Flowers, Limits of Control, whatever) and maybe also one by Sophia Coppola (preferably The Virgin Suicides or Lost in Translation) or Wes Anderson (The Life Aquatic, The Royal Tennenbaums, The Darjeeling Limited, Bottle Rocket, and props to the one who picked up Fantastic Mr. Fox). Four Rooms would've been nice, Gangs of New York, In the Name of the Father, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Paths of Glory, Blow or Traffic. That about sums it up, though.

Some of those should have been drafted and were in consideration for my picks (Gangs of NY, In the Name of the Father etc.). Some other good movies left undrafted, Man on Fire, The Lion King (which I may have taken last for nostalgic value if Schindler's List hadn't still been available), Sin City, etc..

My rankings are now in.

 

[William Blake]

I know, nobody asked me, but: I would've liked to have a Jarmusch film drafted (Dead Man, Ghost Dog, Broken Flowers, Limits of Control, whatever)

I wanted to pick Down By Law but for some reason I forgot about it.

 

[NoBonus]

I would have picked this film, but it hasn't come out yet...

 

[GoGoGadget]

I know, nobody asked me, but: I would've liked to have a Jarmusch film drafted (Dead Man, Ghost Dog, Broken Flowers, Limits of Control, whatever) and maybe also one by Sophia Coppola (preferably The Virgin Suicides or Lost in Translation) or Wes Anderson (The Life Aquatic, The Royal Tennenbaums, The Darjeeling Limited, Bottle Rocket, and props to the one who picked up Fantastic Mr. Fox). Four Rooms would've been nice, Gangs of New York, In the Name of the Father, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Paths of Glory, Blow or Traffic. That about sums it up, though.

I think all three directors may have suffered from having some of their biggest movies taken the first time around, since several of us were trying to avoid re-picks. Pretty sure Lost in Translation went last time. And The Royal Tennenbaums. And I know that Down by Law was cruelly stolen from me last time, which ultimately kept me from picking it up this time, and that I took Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai last time instead. I took Rushmore first time around, too.

As much as I love all three directors, though, I think the rewatchability factor may have hurt them. Jarmusch is easily one of my very favorite directors of all time, and Dead Man (#4 on my all time top five) has been in my almost list for both drafts, but its slow pace kept me from picking it both times. One of those movies that I absolutely, positively love when I'm really in the mood to watch it, but acts as an instant insomnia cure if I'm not.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Yeah I would have picked Dead Man if I didn't have a specific formula for my picks this time around.

Things I left off that I would have liked to squeeze in and won't be worried about anyone stealing in 4 years:
Slap Shot or Victory for my sports flick.
Decline of the Western Civ I or II
Bob Roberts
The Commitments
The Wanderers

Ultimately I decided that these all were kind of out of place one way or another and sometimes duplicative with my other picks.

 

[GoGoGadget]

And though no one else has done it yet, a proper leftover list. In no particular order:

Closer (2004)
Nurse Betty (2000)
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (2005)
The Losers (2010)
25th Hour (2002)
Moon (2009)
Zodiac (2007)
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (2002)
Insomnia (2002)
Frida (2002)
Inside Man (2006)
Thunderball (1965)
Croupier (1998)
In Bruges (2008)
Female Trouble (1974)
Hairspray (1988)
Dogma (1999)
Dead Man (1995)
Gold Diggers of 1933 (1933)
The Wedding Singer (1998)
Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (1965)
Suicide Kings (1997)
Ravenous (1999)
Down By Law (1986)
42nd Street (1933)
Very Bad Things (1998)
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls (1970)
Riot on Sunset Strip (1967)
2 Days in the Valley (1996)
New York, New York (1977)

And those are all left over from the list I sat down and made the first day of the draft. As I figured out when discussing this draft with someone, you could take all of the movies drafted in both drafts out of contention and more than half of my movie collection would still be eligible. This is probably the one draft where I could/would happily go 50 rounds.

 

[GoGoGadget]

Things I left off that I would have liked to squeeze in and won't be worried about anyone stealing in 4 years:

Wouldn't be worried about that last bit. I don't think anyone caught on to the fact 90% of my early picks were taken from the leftover list I posted at the end of the first movie draft. My entire drafting strategy was available to anyone who wanted to click.

 

[William Blake]

Yeah I would have picked Dead Man if I didn't have a specific formula for my picks this time around.

Things I left off that I would have liked to squeeze in and won't be worried about anyone stealing in 4 years:
Slap Shot or Victory for my sports flick.
Decline of the Western Civ I or II
Bob Roberts
The Commitments
The Wanderers

Ultimately I decided that these all were kind of out of place one way or another and sometimes duplicative with my other picks.

Seems like we'll fight over a couple of picks in the music draft

 

[GoGoGadget]

Also, word to the commish, my rankings will be in by no later than this evening. I want to take some time to think on it, but I won't leave you waiting any longer than that.

 

[kingsnation]

My leftover list (in no order):

Alice in Wonderland (2010)
Salt
Perfect Storm
Tangled
Apollo 13
Book of Eli
Transformers 3
Flipped
Planes, Trains and Automobiles
Some Like It Hot
Nacho Libre
Invincible
It's a Wonderful Life

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Suicide Kings (1997)

ewwww... really?

IMHO the worst of the worst QT rip offs. Almost nullifies the greatness of the rest of your list right there

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Seems like we'll fight over a couple of picks in the music draft

I'm generally happy when someone picks something I had in mind. Share the love.

 

[GoGoGadget]

ewwww... really?

IMHO the worst of the worst QT rip offs. Almost nullifies the greatness of the rest of your list right there

Yeah, I know. Can't really say I'm proud of that one, as I'd be hard pressed to defend it as a good movie. It's not. But, then, I actually OWN Reign of Fire, so I've long since given up the pretense of only liking movies that are actually good.



In truth, it probably has more to do with my own little crush on late 90s Jeremy Sisto than anything else.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Yeah, I know. Can't really say I'm proud of that one, as I'd be hard pressed to defend it as a good movie. It's not. But, then, I actually OWN Reign of Fire, so I've long since given up the pretense of only liking movies that are actually good.

I don't have that problem either but Suicide Kings drew such a negative reaction out of me that it has served as something as a measuring stick over the years.

The fact that they tested out several "happy" endings and the audience hated all of them sums up both everything I think is wrong with the modern film making process and the contempt I have for this film.

 

[Superman]

Some movies leftover on my list:
Wall-E
Friday
The Social Network
The Incredibles
Rocky IV and V (I watch them every time they come on FX or Spike)\
Rain Man
Turner and Hooch (I don't think I got a proper Tom Hanks movie, and I love this one)
The Lion King
Transformers (2009)
Deja Vu (had enough time travel, but I like this one)
Man on Fire (seriously considered, but took Training Day instead)
John Q
Bone Collector
Pelican Brief (as you can see, I had to have a Denzel movie)
Boiler Room (don't have a proper "sales" movie, which is a tragedy)
Casino Royale (2006)
Secret Window (don't think I have any Johnny Depp, but I filled this movie's niche several times over)
A Time to Kill
What About Bob

And I have another list at home with about 10 or 12 movies on it that I had my eye on. This was fun. I could have stood to do another 5 or 10 rounds.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I know, nobody asked me, but: I would've liked to have a Jarmusch film drafted (Dead Man, Ghost Dog, Broken Flowers, Limits of Control, whatever) and maybe also one by Sophia Coppola (preferably The Virgin Suicides or Lost in Translation) or Wes Anderson (The Life Aquatic, The Royal Tennenbaums, The Darjeeling Limited, Bottle Rocket, and props to the one who picked up Fantastic Mr. Fox). Four Rooms would've been nice, Gangs of New York, In the Name of the Father, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Paths of Glory, Blow or Traffic. That about sums it up, though.

The Royal Tenenbaums did go (yours truly took it). I really did want Lost in Translation, but was self-limiting myself to only 5 re-picks from all of last time's draft. It was #6 on my re-pick list, and I got to all of my top five before anybody else, so I had to let it slide. I considered The Virgin Suicides, but it just didn't quite make the cut.

 

[Jespher]

Just need rankings from Superman and GoGoGadget before the seedings are official (and GGG promised to get them in by this evening). Great job all, that has to be a record for the fastest time to get rankings in ever! Playoffs should begin tomorrow unless Supes goes MIA.

 

[Warhawk]

Just need rankings from Superman and GoGoGadget before the seedings are official (and GGG promised to get them in by this evening). Great job all, that has to be a record for the fastest time to get rankings in ever! Playoffs should begin tomorrow unless Supes goes MIA.

Just give me the trophy and this will also be the fastest voting ever as well!

 

[jalfa]

I think all three directors may have suffered from having some of their biggest movies taken the first time around, since several of us were trying to avoid re-picks. Pretty sure Lost in Translation went last time. And The Royal Tennenbaums. And I know that Down by Law was cruelly stolen from me last time, which ultimately kept me from picking it up this time, and that I took Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai last time instead. I took Rushmore first time around, too.

As much as I love all three directors, though, I think the rewatchability factor may have hurt them. Jarmusch is easily one of my very favorite directors of all time, and Dead Man (#4 on my all time top five) has been in my almost list for both drafts, but its slow pace kept me from picking it both times. One of those movies that I absolutely, positively love when I'm really in the mood to watch it, but acts as an instant insomnia cure if I'm not.

Yeah. I did notice that Coppola and Jarmusch were represented more in the last draft, although last time both Trainspotting and Fear and Loathing weren't drafted, which kind of balances it for me. I had expected at least one Jarmusch film to be taken, especially since some, for instance Night on Earth, are quite rewatchable. But Jarmusch is definitely one of my favourite directors as well, so I'm kind of biased (btw, I salute your taste in that regard).

The Royal Tenenbaums did go (yours truly took it). I really did want Lost in Translation, but was self-limiting myself to only 5 re-picks from all of last time's draft. It was #6 on my re-pick list, and I got to all of my top five before anybody else, so I had to let it slide. I considered The Virgin Suicides, but it just didn't quite make the cut.

Did not notice that you took The Royal Tennenbaums, but it doesn't surprise me much that it was you, who took it (your list is quite easily my favourite).