Trade With Memphis

GeraldWallace#3

GeraldWallace#3

Bench
#31
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grizz32 said:
Don't come in with that sob story. We had the worst record in the league when Oden, Durant, or Horford would be great to get. But we got the #4. The next year we are the 4th worst. And the next year the 6th. You have no clue how it feels to be the laughing stock of the NBA because your owner wont spend any money and no one goes to the games
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Wow, just wow...Now you just hold on here GrizzFan, you must really not be that much of a "GrizzFan", the Grizzlies are thriving with talent. I always thought it would be real fun to like the Grizzlies, with the likes of OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay, and Marc Gasol. You guys are made for the future. While all we have is a one dimensional Kevin Martin and two promising yet way far from their potential young bigs. You have got it way twisted buddy, how do you think we feel from being the best team in the West and then getting cheated out of a title and then totally self distructing ourselves to being the worst team in the NBA then to only get duped out of the lottery, yeah we have it real easy.
 
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grizz32

Prospect
#32
#32
beb0p said:
Obviously you don't want Rubio either or else you wouldn't be entertaining moving down. I'm just curious, if not Thabeet or Rubio who do you want the Grizz to draft? Jordan Hill perhaps? He seems to me to be the best fit, although he is the least likely to be a star out of the top picks. Or perhaps someone else?
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Its not we don't want Rubio he doesnt want us and I would like Hill but we need someone else too
 
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grizz32

Prospect
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GeraldWallace#3 said:
Wow, just wow...Now you just hold on here GrizzFan, you must really not be that much of a "GrizzFan", the Grizzlies are thriving with talent. I always thought it would be real fun to like the Grizzlies, with the likes of OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay, and Marc Gasol. You guys are made for the future. While all we have is a one dimensional Kevin Martin and two promising yet way far from their potential young bigs. You have got it way twisted buddy, how do you think we feel from being the best team in the West and then getting cheated out of a title and then totally self distructing ourselves to being the worst team in the NBA then to only get duped out of the lottery, yeah we have it real easy.
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Okay I am sorry for my attitude I have had and saying we are the laughing stock. I do like being a Grizzlie fan. Like you said about OJ, Rudy and Gasol. Honestly I was suprised on how yall did so bad no offense. K Mart in my opinion doesnt get any credit, JT was an gutsy but very good pick, and Hawes is also very good. I think you guys can get back in the mix with a good PG. I believe Rubio should go to Sacremento but I don't want to trade the number 2 unless we end up with a good PF and bench help
 
miltonap

miltonap

Starter
#35
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okay. So you want us to trade the #4 who may be just as good as the #2 AND Thompson for an unproven Ricky Rubio? You know, there's a reason we drafted Jason Thompson. It was to fill in the gap we had at PF. Why in the world would we trade him. So we have a gap at PF again? So we can finally play Kenny Thomas? Sorry dude but that trade is an insult. And so is your Conley for #4 AND Greene when Those 2 pieces individually can and probably will end up being way better than conley.
 
VF21

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
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grizz32 said:
Okay I am sorry for my attitude I have had and saying we are the laughing stock. I do like being a Grizzlie fan. Like you said about OJ, Rudy and Gasol. Honestly I was suprised on how yall did so bad no offense. K Mart in my opinion doesnt get any credit, JT was an gutsy but very good pick, and Hawes is also very good. I think you guys can get back in the mix with a good PG. I believe Rubio should go to Sacremento but I don't want to trade the number 2 unless we end up with a good PF and bench help
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We're just as passionate about our team as you are about yours, so we understand your frustrations.

I think unfortunately you're going to have a difficult time finding a good PF unless your owner is willing to part with some $$$. And there doesn't look to be much relief in this year's draft...

A lot of us are intrigued by Rubio, in part because of our memories of the flash of Jason Williams. But we have options. There are actually several potentially good PGs in the mix this year.

Thanks for taking it down a notch. We love nothing more than spirited discussion but we're a little different around here in that we don't care for the hostile attitude you'll find on so many message boards.

Are there any rumors in Memphis about any potential trades for established PFs for you?
 
Circa_1985_Fan

Circa_1985_Fan

All-Star
#38
#38
grizz32 said:
Why are you trying to rip the grizzlies off so much. In a weak draft you offer the 23rd and a 2nd rounder. Keep Dreaming
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I 've always liked Michael Conley Jr, and think you should hold on to him, for your future...you need to take a big man in this draft, and there's a decent lottery crop this year. Like I've been saying, the Kings arent giving up Thompson, Hawes, or Martin just to move up 2 spots. I think if the Grizzlies end up taking Rubio, that means they're giving up on Conley and will probably trade him this year, which is kind of defeating the purpose of drafting him, and plowing the way for him to be the future at PG...it's like starting at square one when you're already at square 2. If the Grizzlies pick Harden or Hill, that would suit them better than creating chaos in drafting Rubio and trying to sell off Conley to someone. The Kings on the other half, are in the opposite position...we already have young bigs for the future, and are looking small...and will more than likely get what we need in the draft at #4, even if we dont get Rubio because someone else pulls the trigger and gambles before us...we'll take Brandon Jennings thank you, and if Petrie wants to gamble with the pick, he can take Maynor or Teague. Just like it would be stupid for the Kings to gamble and take Thabeet or Hill at #4 and create drama at the 4 or 5 positions when we already are in the middle of developing Hawes and Thompson...it would be equally as stupid for Memphis to take Rubio when you already have Conley. I have no problem believing that Rubio will be available at #4, just because OKC already has their young PG of the future as well in Westbrook and I double damn doubt they'd draft Rubio...they're taking a big man, which is what they need, which is why Thabeet makes sense for them if he's there. So...we have Griffen going at #1 for sure, the Grizzlies should take either Harden or Hill, OKC will take Thabeet...and Rubio falls into the Kings laps. It's not rocket surgery.
 
beb0p

beb0p

Starter
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grizz32 said:
Its not we don't want Rubio he doesnt want us and I would like Hill but we need someone else too
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I'm afraid the Kings may not be able to give the type of deal that you're looking for. Really, if we miss out on Rubio but ends up with Thabeet or Harden, I'll be very happy.

A lot of us think that Petrie is fixated on drafting a PG, in which case if the Kings end up with Flynn, Evans, or other PG I'll be less happy but only a little bit less.

In other words, there is no urgency for the Kings to move up. A swap of pick and maybe the Maloof throws in some cash and/or Cedric Simmons is about what you can expect.
 
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grizz32

Prospect
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VF21 said:
Are there any rumors in Memphis about any potential trades for established PFs for you?
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Other than Amare no. I hope Memphis ends up with Rubio and Hill with out giving up our core because Rubio will be a project but for now everything is too confusing. I deffinately don't want Thabeet and its pretty screwed up that we finally get a good draft pick and if we get the best available he might not even come
 
bajaden

bajaden

Hall of Famer
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grizz32 said:
Darko is an expiring
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I'am aware of that. But if we have any interest in entering the free agent market in this offseason, we would be shooting ourselves in the foot by taking back salaries right now. Especially worthless salaries. We already have one of those on our bench.
 
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BMiller52

All-Star
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GeraldWallace#3 said:
JT and Hawes are untouchable. Plus I myself don't like the idea of giving up one of prospects just to move up 2 spaces in a mediocre draft.
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Co-signed. I don't really see what puts Rubio above Jonny Flynn except that he's played professionaly already and in the olympics. I don't have Rubio ranked as my top PG prospect to be honest.
 
bajaden

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#45
#45
grizz32 said:
Don't come in with that sob story. We had the worst record in the league when Oden, Durant, or Horford would be great to get. But we got the #4. The next year we are the 4th worst. And the next year the 6th. You have no clue how it feels to be the laughing stock of the NBA because your owner wont spend any money and no one goes to the games
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Unfortuately we do. We've been down this road some time ago when we had an owner with great vision, who managed to bring the team here, but didn't have the money to make it better. So although I may have empathy, I don't have any sympathy. Everyone one of us has paid our dues in the pain catagory, and we have no interest in repeating for any length of time.
 
bajaden

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#46
#46
grizz32 said:
Other than Amare no. I hope Memphis ends up with Rubio and Hill with out giving up our core because Rubio will be a project but for now everything is too confusing. I deffinately don't want Thabeet and its pretty screwed up that we finally get a good draft pick and if we get the best available he might not even come
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Well, when you figure out the formula for somehow getting both Rubio and Hill, you let me know. I think you would somehow have to aquire the 5th pick in the draft to get Hill. But of course we'll be sitting there at number 4 and asking you, just how much do you want Hill and what would you give up to get him.:D
 
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grizz32

Prospect
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#47
bajaden said:
Well, when you figure out the formula for somehow getting both Rubio and Hill, you let me know. I think you would somehow have to aquire the 5th pick in the draft to get Hill. But of course we'll be sitting there at number 4 and asking you, just how much do you want Hill and what would you give up to get him.:D
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I doubt it yall are probably gonna get Jennings or Holiday
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#50
#50
Darko being an expiring is intriguing, but certainly not enough to sacrifice the young bigs over.

Makes an intriguing piece in some other type of deal though.
 
Aenadin

Aenadin

Starter
#51
#51
judging from a few mock drafts we dont need to trade up or down for rubio most of them have him falling to 4th.. also i read somewhere he isnt attending the treviso camp or something...

would he stay in the draft if he was guaranteed to be picked by sac?
 
bajaden

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#52
#52
Aenadin said:
judging from a few mock drafts we dont need to trade up or down for rubio most of them have him falling to 4th.. also i read somewhere he isnt attending the treviso camp or something...

would he stay in the draft if he was guaranteed to be picked by sac?
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Neither is Jennings, which I think is a mistake. It would have given Jennings a chance to show off his 5 on 5 skills before all the NBA scouts. Not a big deal with Rubio whose draft position is pretty much assured. Jennings could slide as a result.
 
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Smills91

Starter
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#53
grizz32 said:
Lets see Conley was a #4 pick on one of the strongest drafts. But you can get someone better at #4 in one of the weakest drafts???
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And appears to be a reach at #4. Stromile Swift was the #2 pick, so therefore I guess you would be eager to move Conley for Swift then. DUMB LOGIC.
 
Kingster

Kingster

Hall of Famer
#54
#54
grizz32 said:
Why are you trying to rip the grizzlies off so much. In a weak draft you offer the 23rd and a 2nd rounder. Keep Dreaming
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On the contrary, this is a deep draft. That's why the 23rd and the first 2nd rounder are valuable. That is why teams with no first rounders are trying to get one in this draft.
 
Circa_1985_Fan

Circa_1985_Fan

All-Star
#56
#56
VF21 said:
I wouldn't be quite so sure. Geoff Petrie doesn't always reach for the first cookie on the shelf.
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How true THAT is! This is the guy who drafted Peja Stojakovic, Hedo Turkoglu, and Olivier St Jean in the 1st round. So you kinda have to expect the unexpected with him. He's definitely NOT predictable.
 
TTown Kings

TTown Kings

Bench
#57
#57
trading back 2 spots isnt getting you JT or Spence, period. I don't see Donte as part of that trade either. I would be extremely upset if we just gave up on a skilled, athletic, 6'10", 19 year old kid to move up 2 spots. #23 or #31 are possible, but that is likely it. You're talking about 2 spots bud...
 
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dbfish

Bench
#58
#58
Sorry Memphis,

Kings fans weren't born in a barn. At least most of us weren't.
I could see #4 and #31 for #2, or even #4 and #31 and Greene for #2 and Arthur. But I'm afraid you are stuck with Darko.
 
steelevt

steelevt

All-Star
#59
#59
TTown Kings said:
trading back 2 spots isnt getting you JT or Spence, period. I don't see Donte as part of that trade either. I would be extremely upset if we just gave up on a skilled, athletic, 6'10", 19 year old kid to move up 2 spots. #23 or #31 are possible, but that is likely it. You're talking about 2 spots bud...
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as much as i like rubio, i agree that its not worth trading jt or spencer just to move up 2 spots. greene on the other hand i dont mind. i was fine with trading the 4th and the 31st to move up, and correct me if im wrong greene was the 28th pick last year so its not way off. he does have potential but he didnt really show me much last season except for one decent game.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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#60
dbfish said:
Kings fans weren't born in a barn. At least most of us weren't.
I could see #4 and #31 for #2, or even #4 and #31 and Greene for #2 and Arthur. But I'm afraid you are stuck with Darko.
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Darko is an ender...so there is actually some value there. But I don't really have a theory on a deal that works for both sides to take advntage of that.
 
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