Trade Suggestion: Fox for Simmons + #28
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KingsFanSince85
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It’s really sad that members here are free from receiving personal attacks themselves but can attack and impugn anyone else they want with impunity.
That’s soft. And easy. And bushleague.
coolhandluke
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Hoovtrain
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welcome to where mistakes are not only accepted, but embraced
HndsmCelt
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Let's hope not. Unless the trade involves zero core players it's too big a risk. Last year's postseason should scare the living crap out of anyone looking at Simmons.
Padrino
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Yeah, at this point Daryl Morey has to hold out hope for an opposing front office to make a desperate trade deadline deal to salvage a disappointing season.
And that could be the Kings' front office, for the record. Every year in Sacramento has been one more to add to the longest playoff drought in the NBA, and McNair could get twitchy come the trade deadline if the three guard line-ups aren't yielding dividends and the playoffs look like they're slipping out of reach. Maybe McNair becomes more amenable to the idea of parting with De'Aaron Fox under those circumstances. My guess is Morey is waiting to try and capitalize on just such an opportunity.
It remains a big gamble, because there's no telling how the Simmons situation is going to impact Philly's on-court play this season. And wasting a year of Embiid's career is kinduva mortal sin, given how tight the Sixers' contention window is with a franchise player who has such a rickety medical history.
sactowndog
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I doubt they wait until the trade deadline. If the Kings start poorly and aren’t in play-off position, the pressure will be on Monte to do something.
My thought is they fire the coach
but I think they should look at this horribly balanced roster.
TTown Kings
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And rewarded with extensions
SacTownKid
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One thing is for sure, we would find out who is indeed running the show.
OK, OK. Luke Walton for Simmons, straight up.
iowamcnabb
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Doesn't look great but it takes a minute to mend fences. Maybe he is traded in a similar fashion to Harden or maybe he starts to come around when real games start.
iowamcnabb
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I don't think Morey believes flipping Simmons for Barnes and Buddy makes them title favorites. Or any of the other deals that are supposedly out there. He probably believes their best shot is with Simmons on the roster. If he can't make that work he figures he has the leverage to hold out for a deal at the break or in the offseason, worst case scenario. I still wonder why they don't treat Ben like a rich man's Draymond Green. Accept him for what he is, a defensive player of the year candidate who is probably the best passer at his position. He gives you 15 plus a game still. He can't shoot. He needs to be much better from the line but he isn't the only bad free throw shooter out there. Is he worth the money he is paid for that production? maybe not but it is what it is. Surround him and Embiid with shooters. Trade Paul Reed, picks and matching salary to the Kings for Buddy for example
sactowndog
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I don't think Morey believes flipping Simmons for Barnes and Buddy makes them title favorites. Or any of the other deals that are supposedly out there. He probably believes their best shot is with Simmons on the roster. If he can't make that work he figures he has the leverage to hold out for a deal at the break or in the offseason, worst case scenario. I still wonder why they don't treat Ben like a rich man's Draymond Green. Accept him for what he is, a defensive player of the year candidate who is probably the best passer at his position. He gives you 15 plus a game still. He can't shoot. He needs to be much better from the line but he isn't the only bad free throw shooter out there. Is he worth the money he is paid for that production? maybe not but it is what it is. Surround him and Embiid with shooters. Trade Paul Reed, picks and matching salary to the Kings for Buddy for example
Doesn’t fit with Embid to treat Simmons like Green. funny both Morey and Monte his disciple have fit issues. For those critical of analytics, to me fit is where it shows up.
iowamcnabb
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It's definitely not the best fit, but you can't trade defensive player of the year candidates who average 16 a game and drop dimes with the best of them for role players. As is the Sixers are still a 50 plus win team and that's nothing to sneeze at.
noooooo waaaaay.
I just don't know how you could see this coming. Out of left field tbh
iowamcnabb
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This is the behavior of a teenager. Embiid and Docs words don’t justify what he is doing. Nuts
Tetsujin
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Doc has a looooong history of alienating his stars though. It’s the reason the Sixers were able to hire him in the first place.
if the dude who very publicly threw me under the bus repeatedly to recuse Himself from his numerous failings as a post-season coach then proceeded To chew me out in my very first practice back with the team, I too would refuse to work for him.
iowamcnabb
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I can’t say I agree with all of this and Ben has just as much baggage as Doc. I understand wanting to be traded but he went about it in the worse way possible. If he was a Harden level player he could get away with the antics but he is hurting his chances of getting traded to a team he wants. Demand a trade, sit out for a bit to make your point and then show up and be a professional while they facilitate something.
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