Trade rumor: Brad for Starbury
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Big Cuz 15
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salaries don't match. if its the lone trade.
Ryle
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Here's the bio for the writer:
Greg's Bio
Im am a 22 year old college writer, who will sooon be studying at UC Berkeley. I am a true fan to the Oakland Raiders, whom i follow with a passion. The Sacramento Kings, although im not happy with their play as of late. And a follower of baseball in general. Seemingly the Oakland Athletics. I was a high school football official for the past three years, and seem to have a great feel for the game at any level.
Greg's Bio
Im am a 22 year old college writer, who will sooon be studying at UC Berkeley. I am a true fan to the Oakland Raiders, whom i follow with a passion. The Sacramento Kings, although im not happy with their play as of late. And a follower of baseball in general. Seemingly the Oakland Athletics. I was a high school football official for the past three years, and seem to have a great feel for the game at any level.
Dime Dropper
All-Star
If this was deal of Starbury for SAR and Kenny, I would do it (if it works salary wise) if only to get more PT for some young guys that we actually have (Hawes, Williams and Watkins). I'm also pretty sure teams would like Stephon as an expiring after next year, if thats when his contract is up, which would be the same as Mikes if I'm not mistaken (could very well be).
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Does not work moneywise. Brad may be PART of the deal (to help shave his salary of course), but he is not enough alone. In fact thankfully about the only way a Brad based deal could work is if we were throwing in one of turd forwards as well. Not sure what the hell the Knicks would do with Brad anyway. You already have Curry and Randolph and Lee -- although maybe Brad would be the way of detaching Lee from them. Also remember Brad once talking about how much he hated New York -- as a true hick the hustle and bustle was the anti-him.
There was a sophisticatred article in the NY Sun this morning about the Marbury to Kings (or Blazers) possiblities: http://www.nysun.com/article/66514
The auhor in the above understood the financials, and that any such trade would be made by the Kings or Blazers in order to dump more salary, and would likely be followed by a buyout.
There was a sophisticatred article in the NY Sun this morning about the Marbury to Kings (or Blazers) possiblities: http://www.nysun.com/article/66514
The auhor in the above understood the financials, and that any such trade would be made by the Kings or Blazers in order to dump more salary, and would likely be followed by a buyout.
BLNINJA #81
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I'd hate to lose brad, but if we could lose Kenny AND/OR Mikki in the process...GET ER DONE!
Let's say it was Brad/Kenny/Mikki for Marbury/Randolph Morris/Filler(Wilson Chandler?):
Kings new roster
C: Spencer Hawes, Daryl Watkins, Randolph Morris
PF: Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Justin Williams
SF: Ron Artest, John Salmons, Wilson Chandler
SG: Kevin Martin, Francisco Garcia, Quincy Douby
PG: Stephon Marbury(waived?), Beno Udrih, Mike Bibby(traded?)
You can't pass that trade up. It's the ultimate rebuild in 2 years trade. Bibby probably gets dealt OR Marbury gets bought out.
Vlade4GM
All-Star
Why would you hate to lose Miller? Just another bad contract as far as I'm concerned.
I'm sure if a trade like this were actually made it would primarily be about the knicks dumping their headache for someone they consider helpful (although I don't know why) in Miller; so I don't think they're willing to give up any young prospects along with taking on extra year contracts. They'd already be doing us a favor so I don't know why they'd give up even one of Morris and Chandler (who they like very much). I guess you never know though, Isiah could be that dumb.
Some combination like Brad + SAR + Ron works.
Why we do it: we unload a probable ender (Ron) and 2 guys whose contracts aren't up until 2010, in return for one guy whose contract is up in 2009. And that guy may be amenable to a buyout, if it comes to that. Overcongestion at SF goes away, logjam of aging bigs is reduced. Maybe we even help our lottery chances a bit.
Why they do it: Starbury is anathema to Isiah, who will probably unload him for almost anything which matches payroll. Isiah can say that he solved the problem, and even brought Artest to NY, possibly saving his job.
Why it won't happen: this starts the rebuild and cuts short the contract hell we've been consigned to, wasting years of precious work.
Why we do it: we unload a probable ender (Ron) and 2 guys whose contracts aren't up until 2010, in return for one guy whose contract is up in 2009. And that guy may be amenable to a buyout, if it comes to that. Overcongestion at SF goes away, logjam of aging bigs is reduced. Maybe we even help our lottery chances a bit.
Why they do it: Starbury is anathema to Isiah, who will probably unload him for almost anything which matches payroll. Isiah can say that he solved the problem, and even brought Artest to NY, possibly saving his job.
Why it won't happen: this starts the rebuild and cuts short the contract hell we've been consigned to, wasting years of precious work.
BritishColumbia
Bench
Brad (bad contract) + some of our TURIBLE contracts = YES, DO IT !!!!
Entity
Hall of Famer
Brad Miller (3 yrs)
Ron Artest (option)
Kenny Thomas (3 yrs)
for
Starbury (2 yrs)
David Lee (2 yrs)
Fred Jones (expiring)
2008 first round unprotected pick
They obviously get things they want with Ron and Brad plus another PF. They get rid of the problem child (Marbury) they lose a youngster (Lee) and a throw in expiring (fred jones making room for Ron in that spot) with what they get back for their crap (except for Lee) I don't think they would have a problem giving the pick away. The Salaries work out as well.
Ron Artest (option)
Kenny Thomas (3 yrs)
for
Starbury (2 yrs)
David Lee (2 yrs)
Fred Jones (expiring)
2008 first round unprotected pick
They obviously get things they want with Ron and Brad plus another PF. They get rid of the problem child (Marbury) they lose a youngster (Lee) and a throw in expiring (fred jones making room for Ron in that spot) with what they get back for their crap (except for Lee) I don't think they would have a problem giving the pick away. The Salaries work out as well.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
And with Zeke desperate to save his job, one more roll fo the dice maybe for him.
Its a thoguht out plan. But we've had a number of those in the last year in particular, and they never bear any fruit. Wake up the next day to the same dull reality.
Fresno King
Starter
kingzzzfan4ever
G-League
What about Mike Bibby? Where does he fit in all this? 
What about Mike Bibby? Where does he fit in all this?
I'd think we'd just buy out Marbury and let him go sign with the Heat for cheap.
=LarryLegend=
Starter
I think we need brads rebounding right now, so unless we get a big in return, David Lee *cough*. I am very impressed with him so far over 9 games.
KCKingsCountry
G-League
I know Marbury is a headcase but if we can unload those bad contracts for a deal that will expire quicker we should jump on IMO.
Entity
Hall of Famer
would you be impressed with him 2 years from now making 15 mil a year. Or would you rather get rid of him now while he has value.
