Trade proposal down the line..

Sixers fan here. Looking ahead but, last year there was a lot of discussion regarding Iguodala around draft day in a deal with the Twolves for the 2nd pick. Assuming the Kings don't strike gold and get into the top 3, would you guys be interested in something like

Salmons, Hayes and your First (4-6) for Iguodala and our first (18-20) Range

You would be getting rid of 2 pretty hefty contracts and receiving a top 30 player who can impact the game with defense, and playmaking and be efficient without shooting the ball.

With the Sixers draft pick you can still pickup a quality player in this loaded draft..
Tyler Zeller, John Henson, Dion Waiters, Arnette Moultrie are a few that could potentially be available
 
You know, I'd certainly think about it. We'd be back to finding a backup PF/C via free-agency, but the starting lineup would be pretty solid, unless Smart decides to play Iggy at the 4.
 
Sixers fan here. Looking ahead but, last year there was a lot of discussion regarding Iguodala around draft day in a deal with the Twolves for the 2nd pick. Assuming the Kings don't strike gold and get into the top 3, would you guys be interested in something like

Salmons, Hayes and your First (4-6) for Iguodala and our first (18-20) Range

You would be getting rid of 2 pretty hefty contracts and receiving a top 30 player who can impact the game with defense, and playmaking and be efficient without shooting the ball.

With the Sixers draft pick you can still pickup a quality player in this loaded draft..
Tyler Zeller, John Henson, Dion Waiters, Arnette Moultrie are a few that could potentially be available

Sure I'd do it. But would the Sixers after the year they are having? Suppose it depends on how much confidence they hae in Evan Turner going forward.
 
Why the Sixers would do it..

The Sixers have been semi-shopping Iggy for years. We have a solid roster of players, we just need that one player who can make a clutch shot, and be a potential star. Closest we have to that is Lou Williams. Kings at least have Cousins who is a future All Star, Tyreke has potential and Thornton can knock down shots when hes hot. Iggy would beable to play through them, while the Sixers could possibly snag a guy like Barnes or Sullinger. They both have their flaws and are far from sure fire superstars, but are going to beable to put up 18-20 ppg potentially
 
As previously stated, as long as the pick wasn't top 3, I'd think about it. Salary wise, its just about a push, so we don't gain capspace, and at the same time, we lose the possibility of using amnesty on Salmons.. Of course we could still use if on Garcia if needed. Not sure, it might come down to how much I like a player that would be available at whatever spot we choose.
 
There are 3 players in the draft that would prevent me from making this deal.
1.) Anthony Davis
2.) MKG
3.) Thomas Robinson (If he measures out)

So if one of those were not available I'd probably make the deal and then look to pick up a big (Ezeli, Whithey, Anthony Jones (j/k), ect) in the 2nd round.
 
If that Sixers pick turned into Kendall Marshall, I'd do it.

Wouldn't be any room or need for Marshall at that point. Iggy obviously becomes the SF. He's moderately ball dominant/one of the best SF passers. Reke/Thronton/IT become the guards. Reke might or might not still log some minutes at SF when Iggy isn't in. In any rational rotation that's almost all of your PG/SG/SF minutes, and 3 of the 4 players are ball domiannt types capable fo 5+ assists on any night.

Other thing is, with both Reke and Iggy in that roatatin, you are probably going to want shooters to fill the mix out.
 
great idea, and then in free agency try to sign Goran Dragic (ufa right?)

Dragic
Evans
Iggy
Cousins
Thompson

bench:
Thornton
Isaiah Thomas
Salmons
chuck hayes ( i dont think he would be included int he deal)
Whiteside/Donte

thats a very good team!
 
great idea, and then in free agency try to sign Goran Dragic (ufa right?)

Dragic
Evans
Iggy
Cousins
Thompson

bench:
Thornton
Isaiah Thomas
Salmons
chuck hayes ( i dont think he would be included int he deal)
Whiteside/Donte

thats a very good team!

again, no minutes for Goran in that scenario.

When you alreayd hae Reke, Thornton and IT, you basically can add EITHER a big minute SF (PGs IT, Reke) or a big minute PG (Reke fulltime SF and leaves in a year). There are no minutes for both. You add a 35min/gm SF to this team and there aren't even Jimmer minutes left over for a 4th guard. IT/Thronton/Reke use up almost all 96 minutes there. Might be 10 minutes to spare while Reke plays some SF. That would be it.
 
again, no minutes for Goran in that scenario.

When you alreayd hae Reke, Thornton and IT, you basically can add EITHER a big minute SF (PGs IT, Reke) or a big minute PG (Reke fulltime SF and leaves in a year). There are no minutes for both. You add a 35min/gm SF to this team and there aren't even Jimmer minutes left over for a 4th guard. IT/Thronton/Reke use up almost all 96 minutes there. Might be 10 minutes to spare while Reke plays some SF. That would be it.

lmao what is up with this goran dragic talk he's not much better than beno and in no universe does he start over Isaiah obviously, or thornton
 
lmao what is up with this goran dragic talk he's not much better than beno and in no universe does he start over Isaiah obviously, or thornton

peopel really need to get off IT's nuts at some point. Kindly step back form the hype. Now I am no Goran worhsiper. Nor was I a Beno worshiper. BUT, IT hasn't proven anything those two haven't proven. Goran's averaging 16 and 9 as a starter for Houston. Beno used to average 12-14pts 4-5apg, and once notched a triple double for us. If you have all three players on the roster, who started or nto would not be any sort of given. Be about fit.
 
lmao what is up with this goran dragic talk he's not much better than beno and in no universe does he start over Isaiah obviously, or thornton

shouldnt be trying to work around "jimmer's minutes" tho, hes not good enough to warrant that
 
great idea, and then in free agency try to sign Goran Dragic (ufa right?)

Dragic
Evans
Iggy
Cousins
Thompson

bench:
Thornton
Isaiah Thomas
Salmons
chuck hayes ( i dont think he would be included int he deal)
Whiteside/Donte

thats a very good team!

Why would we have 10 bazillion guards and where would their minutes come from?
 
There are 3 players in the draft that would prevent me from making this deal.
1.) Anthony Davis
2.) MKG
3.) Thomas Robinson (If he measures out)

So if one of those were not available I'd probably make the deal and then look to pick up a big (Ezeli, Whithey, Anthony Jones (j/k), ect) in the 2nd round.

Robinson measures 6'10 in shoes. So I think he probably will measure anywhere from 6'7 3/4 to 6'8 1/2 without shoes.
 
great idea, and then in free agency try to sign Goran Dragic (ufa right?)

Dragic
Evans
Iggy
Cousins
Thompson

bench:
Thornton
Isaiah Thomas
Salmons
chuck hayes ( i dont think he would be included int he deal)
Whiteside/Donte

thats a very good team!

I see where this is going, but I don't think there's any scenario where JT starts and we become an elite team.
 
peopel really need to get off IT's nuts at some point. Kindly step back form the hype. Now I am no Goran worhsiper. Nor was I a Beno worshiper. BUT, IT hasn't proven anything those two haven't proven. Goran's averaging 16 and 9 as a starter for Houston. Beno used to average 12-14pts 4-5apg, and once notched a triple double for us. If you have all three players on the roster, who started or nto would not be any sort of given. Be about fit.


I don't think it takes a genius to know that both Dragic and IT are better than Beno.
 
what about
Thornton, Salmons and 5-6th pick for Iggy and Jodie Meeks (resign and trade) and the 18th-19th

Getting rid of Thornton gives Tyreke more control like he did his rookie year, and your getting the worst contract in the NBA (minus Rashard Lewis) off your hands.
Iggy and Tyreke might not beable to scare teams from beyond the arc, but Jodie Meeks will (39% 3pt) and can easily play 25mins a night. He randomly can explode for 4-6 3's a game like last tuesday 31 points against Cleveland.

Utah is bound to make a draft day move, trade that 18th pick and Jimmer for the 9th or 12th pick (Whatever one is necessary for Marshall) and a throw in like Raja Bell. Utah gets backcourt help and keeps 2 first rounders.

At 36 Jeff Withey out of Kansas as previously stated in the other post would be a great fit. Marshall and Withey aren't stars but can play in the NBA for a decade because their exceptional at one thing. Perfect fit with guys who have all the talent in the world like Tyreke and Cousins. Iggy's presence alone would increase your win total by 5-8.

C. Cousins/Withey/Whiteside
F. Thompson/Hayes
F. Iggy/Greene/Honeycutt
G. Tyreke/Meeks
G. Marshall/Thomas
 
what about
Thornton, Salmons and 5-6th pick for Iggy and Jodie Meeks (resign and trade) and the 18th-19th

Getting rid of Thornton gives Tyreke more control like he did his rookie year, and your getting the worst contract in the NBA (minus Rashard Lewis) off your hands.
Iggy and Tyreke might not beable to scare teams from beyond the arc, but Jodie Meeks will (39% 3pt) and can easily play 25mins a night. He randomly can explode for 4-6 3's a game like last tuesday 31 points against Cleveland.

Utah is bound to make a draft day move, trade that 18th pick and Jimmer for the 9th or 12th pick (Whatever one is necessary for Marshall) and a throw in like Raja Bell. Utah gets backcourt help and keeps 2 first rounders.

At 36 Jeff Withey out of Kansas as previously stated in the other post would be a great fit. Marshall and Withey aren't stars but can play in the NBA for a decade because their exceptional at one thing. Perfect fit with guys who have all the talent in the world like Tyreke and Cousins. Iggy's presence alone would increase your win total by 5-8.

C. Cousins/Withey/Whiteside
F. Thompson/Hayes
F. Iggy/Greene/Honeycutt
G. Tyreke/Meeks
G. Marshall/Thomas

Why would PHI do this? I like the idea, but seems to good to be true. For a different angle, what about something like this?

To ATL: Evans, JT (re-signed), 2nd Rd. Pick (post draft, for a piece like Fab Melo, Drew Gordon, etc.) for Josh Smith.

Why does ATL do this? Atlanta only has 6 players signed through this season, and is short on depth at virtually every position on the floor. They are most in need of young talent with upside to complement Horford, Johnson, Teague, and Williams, particularly in the front court. This provides the Hawks with two pieces they could covet in a backup big and an effective starter in JT, and also gives them a guard to pair alongside Teague to move Johnson to the SF position, making Williams more available in a trade. Their starting 5 would become Pachulia/Horford/Johnson/Teague/Evans, with JT, Melo, and any number of FA signees on the bench. It also frees up about 4m more for them in Free Agency (adding to their astronomical cap room) and gets them something in return for Smith, who could leave for nothing after 2013.

Why SAC does it? Despite public overtures stating otherwise, the glut of swingman guards is a major headache, and seriously impeding the team's ability to move forward. While Evans may possess more tools down the line than Thornton, the ability to acquire a big of Smith's nature is too much to ignore. Smith instantly gives the team three attributes they have been missing from their PF position since Webber- excellent passing ability, shot-blocking skills, and a natural scoring touch. Smith has the potential to even yet become a superstar (he'll be 27 next year), and could thrive in an up-tempo system like ours, with Smith possessing a great ability to cut to the basket. JT is an integral part of this deal, with ATL unlikely to move anyone without assurances of getting major insurance for their front court in return. JT, an affordable and quietly effective starter, could be the perfect fit here before they make what many feel could be a major play for local boy Howard next offseason.

I'd then sign AK, Batum, or Ilyasova and draft a developmental backup big like Moultrie or Perry Jones with our first round pick to counter the loss of Thompson. For laughs, let's say we sign AK. Re-sign Williams for depth and let Garcia (amnesty exercised), Greene, and the Hickson deal expire. New depth chart:

C: Cousins/Hayes/Whiteside
PF: Smith/Moultrie
SF: Kirilenko/Williams/Outlaw/Honeycutt
PG: Thomas/Fredette
SG: Thornton/Salmons

I think that team could be very competitive, and provide our young players with excellent support as they continue to grow and improve. Yes, losing Tyreke and JT (just coming into his own, and signed to a nice deal) is a blow. But I love thinking of that front court. Jimmer gets to continue to get time with solid depth across the court. The second line has an excellent balance between defense and scoring, with Hayes/Moultrie/Williams/Fredette/Salmons being an interesting matchup.

I'd say this team could win anywhere from at least 37 to a ceiling of about 43 or 44. In any case, wildly improved IMO.
 
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As a Sixers fan I feel they would do the deal. Iggy is a top 30 player but they need a face of the franchise type star. Kings have that in Cousins. At 5-6 range with Drummond and possibly Thomas Robinson we can hope for something like that. I doubt Meeks is coming back if we have to resign Lou Williams and Spencer Hawes so it would be a realistic deal.

I actually like your idea a little better. Also realistic, the Hawks have been middling with the same roster for a couple seasons and could use a spark. Illysova is a beast might be the most underrated player in the league right now him or Batum would be a huge signing.
 
As a Sixers fan I feel they would do the deal. Iggy is a top 30 player but they need a face of the franchise type star. Kings have that in Cousins. At 5-6 range with Drummond and possibly Thomas Robinson we can hope for something like that. I doubt Meeks is coming back if we have to resign Lou Williams and Spencer Hawes so it would be a realistic deal.

I actually like your idea a little better. Also realistic, the Hawks have been middling with the same roster for a couple seasons and could use a spark. Illysova is a beast might be the most underrated player in the league right now him or Batum would be a huge signing.



FYI that particular poster would trade Evans for Marco Bellinelli and a used toaster oven if he had a chance.
 
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