Trade for Rondo??

[KingMilz]

You're probably losing in talent in that deal.

And I think a big point is precisely to add MORE vets, not swap around the ones we have. Certainly Boston would be in the opposite position if they decide to tear down. Then they'll be ok with losing with kids again. We can't be. If a kid can help now, great. But no kid is going to help as much as Rajon Rondo.

How are we losing in talent Rondo helps you win more than Gay and Green helps about as much as IT? Green is a better fit at SF with Cousins cause he's a willing/passive passing/slashing type(he will actually along with Rondo play defence) who can knock down the shot and healthy Rondo is a elite PG, Rudy Gay when healthy is not elite and IT is a good 6th man.

So 1 elite PG and solid SF for a slighly above average player/SF and a good 6th man. Jeff Green while he might not be a 8million dollar player is not on a absurd contract and if he's a good fit for the team he might be worth that 8million.

If we don't give up picks to swap how are we losing talent?

 

[ParniValjak]

You're probably losing in talent in that deal.

And I think a big point is precisely to add MORE vets, not swap around the ones we have. Certainly Boston would be in the opposite position if they decide to tear down. Then they'll be ok with losing with kids again. We can't be. If a kid can help now, great. But no kid is going to help as much as Rajon Rondo.

I have said it before but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we restarted negotiations with Boston for Rondo come draft night. I believe the team sees it this way:

1. You are getting a pass first All-Star PG who is one of the best defenders at position
2. It proves to Gay that we are serious about building a winner and gives him more incentive to stay around.
3. Gay and Rondo are close friends who have talked about playing together in the past and this along with a dominant Cousins might just convince Rondo to stick around.
4. With Cousins-Gay-Rondo trio you have genuine building blocks in place. Get a couple of fitting role players at SG and PF and you are a VERY VERY good team!

 

[Shabazz916]

imo we should stand pat...

try to move jt or landry and draft either Aaron gordon, or PG

 

[NewArena]

imo we should stand pat...

try to move jt or landry and draft either Aaron gordon, or PG

I want them both gone, to be honest. if it makes sense for us, of course.

 

[Hadlowe]

I have said it before but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we restarted negotiations with Boston for Rondo come draft night. I believe the team sees it this way:

1. You are getting a pass first All-Star PG who is one of the best defenders at position
2. It proves to Gay that we are serious about building a winner and gives him more incentive to stay around.
3. Gay and Rondo are close friends who have talked about playing together in the past and this along with a dominant Cousins might just convince Rondo to stick around.
4. With Cousins-Gay-Rondo trio you have genuine building blocks in place. Get a couple of fitting role players at SG and PF and you are a VERY VERY good team!

If you go that route, I think you need a stretch 4 (at least on the bench) and you definitely need a knockdown three point shooter at the 2. Rondo has supposedly been working on his shot, but he still only shot 30% from three point range in his injury-shortened season. In any case, drive and kick is his game, so you don't really want him taking spot-up threes and definitely not off the dribble. Gay is not a great three point shooter. Cousins does help by being a threat from mid-range, but that is still an awfully small floor to work with.

Thankfully, there are a few options to work with.

At SG Alan Anderson opted out of his Nets contract, and has size, defense and outside shooting.
Ray Allen might be convinced to finish out his career working with Rondo and training McLemore, especially if the Kings look like a team on the rise.
Morrow, Meeks and Sefalosha should all be available.

For PF, assuming you can clear out the 17 or so already on the roster, there are a few stretch-4 specialists available.
I don't know that you could get Bonner away from San Antonio, but he wouldn't be a bad guy to have at the end of a bench.
Earl Clark is a decent player who made a huge mistake by signing on in Cleveland. In a less dysfunctional environment, he might revert back to 2012-2013 Earl Clark.
Channing Frye opted out of his contract, and it might be entertaining to see him in a Kings uniform just to give Brick an aneurysm.

 

[twslam07]

If you go that route, I think you need a stretch 4 (at least on the bench) and you definitely need a knockdown three point shooter at the 2. Rondo has supposedly been working on his shot, but he still only shot 30% from three point range in his injury-shortened season. In any case, drive and kick is his game, so you don't really want him taking spot-up threes and definitely not off the dribble. Gay is not a great three point shooter. Cousins does help by being a threat from mid-range, but that is still an awfully small floor to work with.

Thankfully, there are a few options to work with.

At SG Alan Anderson opted out of his Nets contract, and has size, defense and outside shooting.
Ray Allen might be convinced to finish out his career working with Rondo and training McLemore, especially if the Kings look like a team on the rise.
Morrow, Meeks and Sefalosha should all be available.

For PF, assuming you can clear out the 17 or so already on the roster, there are a few stretch-4 specialists available.
I don't know that you could get Bonner away from San Antonio, but he wouldn't be a bad guy to have at the end of a bench.
Earl Clark is a decent player who made a huge mistake by signing on in Cleveland. In a less dysfunctional environment, he might revert back to 2012-2013 Earl Clark.
Channing Frye opted out of his contract, and it might be entertaining to see him in a Kings uniform just to give Brick an aneurysm.

Didn't Allen and Rondo have issues with each other towards the end of their stint together?

 

[KingsFanSince85]

More rumors:

The Cavs, Kings and Celtics are in trade talks involving Rondo to Sacramento an unnamed players to Cleveland & Boston getting the 1st Pick.

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/481935501734469632

 

[Chupacabra]

imo we should stand pat...

try to move jt or landry and draft either Aaron gordon, or PG

Care to explain why you think we should stand pat coming off of a 28 win season?

 

[twslam07]

More rumors:



https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/481935501734469632

I wonder what exactly we're talking about giving up. I would assume it's the 8th and McLemore. I wonder if we could then go get Horford, Gibson, or Afflalo with our remaining assets. Their might be something we could work out with Chicago and Atlanta if they are trying to shed salary for Lebron/Melo. Also by dealing with Chicago, it gives us potentially another asset to choose that we wouldn't have with any other teams. Removing the protection of the 2015 pick would have value for them.

Rondo
Afflalo
Gay
???
Cousins

or

Rondo
???
Gay
Horford/Gibson
Cousins

These two lineups would get me pretty pumped going into next season.

 

[Entity]

We would prob also lose JT or Landry with Williams or terry. Got to match that rondo salary. Maybe

Boston gets #1 and ???
Cleveland gets #6 and #8
Kings get Rondo

Be nice if we keep bmac somehow.

 

[Entity]

Replys on that tweet are insane. They think they are getting cousins and a pick in this deal lol

 

[Kings Faithful]

Keep working them phones Pete. Don't let negotiations stall. As much as I don't want to make a hasty terrible trade, what I fear most is doing nothing and just selecting a non impact player at the 8 spot.

 

[KingMilz]

Thankfully, there are a few options to work with.

At SG Alan Anderson opted out of his Nets contract, and has size, defense and outside shooting.

Massive chucker and is not even better than Ben imo.

 

[Shabazz916]

Care to explain why you think we should stand pat coming off of a 28 win season?

I like ray mac as a pg, draft and develop thats how you win. Just because you trade for vets does not mean they will mesh as a team.

 

[Tetsujin]

I like ray mac as a pg, draft and develop thats how you win. Just because you trade for vets does not mean they will mesh as a team.

Drafting and developing works to a certain point. Once you've got your stars, then you trade for the right talent around them. OKC drafted Durant, Ibaka, and Westbrook and got a lot of the rest of its supporting cast via trade.

 

[Shabazz916]

Drafting and developing works to a certain point. Once you've got your stars, then you trade for the right talent around them. OKC drafted Durant, Ibaka, and Westbrook and got a lot of the rest of its supporting cast via trade.

True but OKC is a example of draft and develop with no diversity in its players. They are perimeter oriented only team. The kings have the most talented big man our offense has levels.

 

[Albatros]

I just saw a retweet from a Boston journalist saying this is "complete bs" apparently.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

It all comes down to Rajon's health and his desire to play for us. If he really doesn't want to be here, don't waste any assets on him.

 

[JLoss22]

Now that the draft is over, a Rondo trade seems like a longshot. Think about it, our best (only) assets are 2 SGs and the C's just drafted Smart and Young, so I don't see them having much interest in McLemore or Stauskas.

 

[KingMilz]

Could the Smart drafting mean Avery Bradley is pretty much as good as gone?

 

[ilmago]

any news/rumours about Rondo?
sing&trade IT+JT+Ben even if we'll go over the cap..
Then leave Terry if it's possible..

 

[ParniValjak]

Not really! Just people drawing their own conclusion based in the fact that Boston reached out to IT at the start of the free agency.

 

[Tetsujin]

any news/rumours about Rondo?
sing&trade IT+JT+Ben even if we'll go over the cap..
Then leave Terry if it's possible..

Depends on what song they want to hear.

 

[Tetsujin]

Not really! Just people drawing their own conclusion based in the fact that Boston reached out to IT at the start of the free agency.

Well, to be fair, a lot of NBA beat writers are also fueling the trade rumor fire

 

[ilmago]

Depends on what song they want to hear.

LOL
I think Boston - " More than a feeeeeelinnnng"

 

[ParniValjak]

Well, to be fair, a lot of NBA beat writers are also fueling the trade rumor fire

But they are jumpimg the gun like everyone

1. Kings had previous interest in getting Rondo both at the trade deadline and leading up to the draft
2. Boston drafted a PG
3. Boston is the first to call IT

So it must be IT for Rondo sign and trade in the work. Its still a LONG LONG way away from that. Firstly, IT needs to chose Boston, then Boston need to be opento trading Rondo is sign and trade which is really unlikely. They could trade Rondo to somewhere else for a lot more in return than a signed and traded IT.

I would LOVE for this to be the case but history says the sign and trades return minimal value. Just look at Tyreke's sign and trade last year. We got sweet **** all for him!

 

[CelticsFan]

I think the Celtics are backed into a corner a bit now with Rondo. Yesterday it comes out saying he's looking for 100 million last nights first call was to Thomas we just drafted Smart. IMO Rondo is probably BS right now. I get the feeling Ainge wanted to stir the pot a little to let teams know we are ready to move away from Rondo. Unfortunately for Kings fans I dont think an overpaid IT and McLemore get the deal done. I'm an official Pizza Man hater now after becoming a member of this site last year.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Could the Smart drafting mean Avery Bradley is pretty much as good as gone?

I'd certainly take him in a sign and trade for IT. Some might think we're getting less value in this deal, but he's a much better fit for our team. In certain matchups..and if Stauskas can infact initiate the offense, Bradley could lockdown the opponents point guard

 

[SacKings2002NBAChampions]

I'd certainly take him in a sign and trade for IT. Some might think we're getting less value in this deal, but he's a much better fit for our team. In certain matchups..and if Stauskas can infact initiate the offense, Bradley could lockdown the opponents point guard

And what be stuck with 3 SG's who have potential but haven't shown anything yet? NO THX.

IT would definitely be interested in going to Boston. Just not sure what is Boston's angle here. Are they trying to shed salary for a big offseason next year or what. Seems like they're willing to part with Rondo and Bradley (among others) to clear some big cap space. I think they'd be more than happy to get two potential star players in IT and Ben Mac to pair up with a versatile defensive guard such as Smart. They will probably sign Love in the offseason +...? Ainge is a shady character. I don't see him going through with a deal unless he gets the winning end. That's how he has always been. In which case, I think IT+JT+Ben is more than a winning deal for him. He sheds loads of salary + a player who is a shadow of his former self (but can still potentially put up all-star #'s) and he gets two potential stars in return plus a potential star from the draft. Lots of risk in this deal but lots of Cap-Space to make up for mistakes next season. Win-Win for Boston as they are a big market team and they always prevail in the end.
In such a case, it's our only chance to acquire a player like Rondo. We know for sure that he's never going to sign with us next season. Possibly with the Lakers. This way, we might be able to convince him.

 

[Hoovtrain]

I think the Celtics are backed into a corner a bit now with Rondo. Yesterday it comes out saying he's looking for 100 million last nights first call was to Thomas we just drafted Smart. IMO Rondo is probably BS right now. I get the feeling Ainge wanted to stir the pot a little to let teams know we are ready to move away from Rondo. Unfortunately for Kings fans I dont think an overpaid IT and McLemore get the deal done. I'm an official Pizza Man hater now after becoming a member of this site last year.

How dare you. Its Pizza Guy you son of a b***h!