Tony Snell at 7? or We trade down/ Add a lower pick?

[sactownfan]

Ok heres a guy Pete D needed to see in person so we brought him back for a second look. He happens to play the position we are currently in dire need to address. He also happens to have the talents we are needing from the SF spot... athleticism, passing, defense, 3pt shooting, and most importantly excels at MOVING WITHOUT THE BALL...haha...

hes not going to be an all-star by any means hes a role player for sure (but really this team needs some more of those)... think Danny Green with superior defensive skills and more athleticism. or think poor mans Kawhi Leonard..?

draft express has a great description and breakdown of his game below.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Snell-18408/

the things that just JUMP OUT are....

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Snell does show some potential as a passer and ball-mover on the offensive end, as his 3.7 assists per-forty actually led all small forwards in our Top-100"

"Defensively, Snell's physical tools make him an intriguing piece, as he has the size, length, and lateral quickness to be a versatile defender capable of defending both wing positions."

and
"Snell's game on the offensive end is built around his outstanding perimeter shooting, and he does a very good job moving without the ball"​

anyway... taking him at 7 seems a bit too high at the moment. but Pete D. in an in depth interview talked about the importance of making trades so trading one of our mini chuckers for another 1st RD pick could be in play. Snell could be a perfect fit... and if taken at the right place in the draft 14-25 spot...could be a steal.

 

[sdballer]

Ok heres a guy Pete D needed to see in person so we brought him back for a second look. He happens to play the position we are currently in dire need to address. He also happens to have the talents we are needing from the SF spot... athleticism, passing, defense, 3pt shooting, and most importantly excels at MOVING WITHOUT THE BALL...haha...

hes not going to be an all-star by any means hes a role player for sure (but really this team needs some more of those)... think Danny Green with superior defensive skills and more athleticism. or think poor mans Kawhi Leonard..?

draft express has a great description and breakdown of his game below.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Snell-18408/

the things that just JUMP OUT are....

"

Snell does show some potential as a passer and ball-mover on the offensive end, as his 3.7 assists per-forty actually led all small forwards in our Top-100"

"Defensively, Snell's physical tools make him an intriguing piece, as he has the size, length, and lateral quickness to be a versatile defender capable of defending both wing positions."

and
"Snell's game on the offensive end is built around his outstanding perimeter shooting, and he does a very good job moving without the ball"​

anyway... taking him at 7 seems a bit too high at the moment. but Pete D. in an in depth interview talked about the importance of making trades so trading one of our mini chuckers for another 1st RD pick could be in play. Snell could be a perfect fit... and if taken at the right place in the draft 14-25 spot...could be a steal.

At 7 would be a really bad pick but late first would be ok. Still think bullock does all the things snell does better.

 

[roasthawg]

At 7 would be a really bad pick but late first would be ok. Still think bullock does all the things snell does better.

I'm a Bullock fan too. Would be nice to get either of these guys with a lower pick.

 

[Mojo]

Pete D. in an in depth interview talked about the importance of making trades so trading one of our mini chuckers for another 1st RD pick could be in play.

link to the interview?

 

[sactownfan]

link to the interview?

kings.com

 

[Mojo]

kings.com

thanks.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

Ok heres a guy Pete D needed to see in person so we brought him back for a second look. He happens to play the position we are currently in dire need to address. He also happens to have the talents we are needing from the SF spot... athleticism, passing, defense, 3pt shooting, and most importantly excels at MOVING WITHOUT THE BALL...haha...

hes not going to be an all-star by any means hes a role player for sure (but really this team needs some more of those)... think Danny Green with superior defensive skills and more athleticism. or think poor mans Kawhi Leonard..?

draft express has a great description and breakdown of his game below.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Snell-18408/

the things that just JUMP OUT are....

"

Snell does show some potential as a passer and ball-mover on the offensive end, as his 3.7 assists per-forty actually led all small forwards in our Top-100"

"Defensively, Snell's physical tools make him an intriguing piece, as he has the size, length, and lateral quickness to be a versatile defender capable of defending both wing positions."

and
"Snell's game on the offensive end is built around his outstanding perimeter shooting, and he does a very good job moving without the ball"​

anyway... taking him at 7 seems a bit too high at the moment. but Pete D. in an in depth interview talked about the importance of making trades so trading one of our mini chuckers for another 1st RD pick could be in play. Snell could be a perfect fit... and if taken at the right place in the draft 14-25 spot...could be a steal.

I love what Snell brings too the table as a role player/potential wise, aswell. His frame looks like it could put on another 20-25 pounds easily because of his wide shoulders, which would put him at a solid (6'7.5, 225-230 pounds SF).

although, Im a little worried about his rebounding numbers for his size..(2.6 RPG) in (31 MPG)... kind of a head scratcher? for someone with his athletcism and size?... in the interviews of Snell that I've seen, he said "i can be a good rebounder.. i just didnt get the chance too prove it because of how I was used in the New Mexico system"..

I love his shooting mechanics, alot of scouts have proclaimed that "his jumpshot is unblockable with his size and release point. And he is very smooth and fluid with each shot."

I'm most intrigued by his defensive potential though, which still needs alot of work from what I can gather. But the tools are there too succeed. With guys like Lebron, George, Leonard, Gay, Melo, Deng, Durant in todays league.. we are going too need a strong athletic defender at the SF position to compete defensively. Snell could potentially be that guy.

I think one of the things I love about Snell is he is a "Silent Assassin" as they nicknamed him in New Mexico.. Hes a very humble, quiet player, that dosent whine, ever...(Think Kawhi Leonard or Duncan or the Anti-DMC).. Which would be a breath of fresh air on our team full of whiners. If you watched the Spurs all playoffs, they rarely whined too the refs at all. It was beautiful too watch. They were strictly business. And I think that paid huge dividends of how far they ended up in the playoffs.

All in all I agree with sactownfan, I would not take Snell at #7. But I do think it would be worth it too try and aquire a mid too late first round pick and try and Target Snell & Sergey Karasev as our future Small Forwards.

 

[cuad]

Snell is 6'6 w/o shoes. That bothers me 'cause it's (tall) SG height, not really SF height...

 

[funkykingston]

And Snell insists he's a SG. Especially since this time of year agents are telling guys to be as versatile as possible and tell teams whatever they want to hear.

Snell seemed annoyed at the combine that they worked him out with the SFs. His agent even said he was a shooting guard "all the way". Interesting.

 

[bajaden]

Snell is 6'6 w/o shoes. That's an SG.

He's 6'7" with shoes, and thats what they go by. He also has a very large wingspan. I wouldn't take him at seven though. Yes, I know I said that if you really love a player then just take him. I still stand by that. Its that I like Snell, I don't love him enough to take him at seven. I have the feeling that the Kings are going to pull off a draft day deal for a lower first round pick as well as their own, or perhaps drop down a bit, and gain another first round pick. To my mind, they've brought in too many guys that are lower first round picks, or second round picks. Gotta be a reason!

 

[OptimusRhyme]

Snell is 6'6 w/o shoes. That's an SG.

And with shoes hes 6'7.25 with a tad under 7' Wingspan..... Hes the same height as Kawhi Leonard, with better verticle.. His height,athletcism,wingspan is fine for a SF.

 

[bajaden]

And Snell insists he's a SG. Especially since this time of year agents are telling guys to be as versatile as possible and tell teams whatever they want to hear.

Snell seemed annoyed at the combine that they worked him out with the SFs. His agent even said he was a shooting guard "all the way". Interesting.

Yeah, I heard that as well. Makes me wonder about Tyreke! I guess one scenario would be to move Tyreke back to PG, which would open up a slot at the SG position. Move Thornton back to starting at SG and let Snell come off the bench with IT. Or, perhaps trade Thornton. I doubt that they would start Snell though. Hell, I don't know. I love a good mystery.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

And Snell insists he's a SG. Especially since this time of year agents are telling guys to be as versatile as possible and tell teams whatever they want to hear.

Snell seemed annoyed at the combine that they worked him out with the SFs. His agent even said he was a shooting guard "all the way". Interesting.

if he can put on that extra 20 pounds of muscle(like scouts say his frame can) i dont see why he couldnt hang with the SF's in the league physically.

I heard a Snell interview where he said "I can play both positions SG & SF"

 

[kingsfanslc]

Just saw on the sports here that the Jazz are seriously looking to move up in the draft. Makes me wonder?!?!?! So how would trading down to #14 pick sound and who would you take there?

 

[roasthawg]

Just saw on the sports here that the Jazz are seriously looking to move up in the draft. Makes me wonder?!?!?! So how would trading down to #14 pick sound and who would you take there?

Not into trading down at all... imo the value in this draft is the fact that there are seven or eight pretty good prospects. No elite talent and not a deep draft by any means but there are some guys up top who should be good players. Only interested in trading if we get a stud out of the trade.

 

[The Hammer]

Just saw on the sports here that the Jazz are seriously looking to move up in the draft. Makes me wonder?!?!?! So how would trading down to #14 pick sound and who would you take there?

Jimmer, JT, and #7 for Favors and the #14. Would you do it? Would Utah? Only way I consider it is if I can get Favors somehow.

 

[mac]

Jimmer, JT, and #7 for Favors and the #14. Would you do it? Would Utah? Only way I consider it is if I can get Favors somehow.

I'd do it in a heartbeat. Doubt the Jazz would though.

 

[The Hammer]

I'd do it in a heartbeat. Doubt the Jazz would though.

What do you think the Jazz need to get that done? Keeping the #14? Toss in... Aldrich?

I like Favors better than just about anybody next to Cuz and we have a neat little chip in Jimmer they might be sweet on, and, if they wanna move up... I 'd like to think that if Favors was not untouchable, we could put together a package sans Reke/DMC that could get it done... help me out here.

 

[mac]

What do you think the Jazz need to get that done? Keeping the #14? Toss in... Aldrich?

I like Favors better than just about anybody next to Cuz and we have a neat little chip in Jimmer they might be sweet on, and, if they wanna move up... I 'd like to think that if Favors was not untouchable, we could put together a package sans Reke/DMC that could get it done... help me out here.

Oh wait a minute, you said JT. I read it as IT. Hmm ok that's a little more likely then.

 

[jalfa]

the Jazz really need to give the Favors/Kanter frontcourt a real shot. they've shown flashes last year and with a year more of development and more minutes available in the frontcourt (no idea if or whom they want to resign, but it's unlikely they bring back both Millsap and Jefferson), they could be very, very good. much too good to be replaced by a JT/Kanter combo just in order to move up to #7. Jimmer, I'm afraid, would be a non-factor in this and the Kings don't have the assets to make it work any which way.

 

[KingsFanGER]

Maybe trade for Hayward instead, if Favors is untouchable? Solid SF

 

[jalfa]

Maybe trade for Hayward instead, if Favors is untouchable? Solid SF

are they going to find any player better than Hayward at the 7 spot, though? he was their best two-way player last year, has improved every year he has been in the league and just received an invitation to the USA select team camp. that's a really good player and not easy to replace, production wise. I can see the Jazz wanting to move up in order to target one of the PGs available with our pick, Burke, for instance, would make a lot of sense for them, but I don't think they'd be so invested into that idea as to trade one of their core players for that pick and, frankly, outside of the pick the Kings don't have anybody that'd be all that interesting for the Jazz.

 

[KingsFanGER]

are they going to find any player better than Hayward at the 7 spot, though? he was their best two-way player last year, has improved every year he has been in the league and just received an invitation to the USA select team camp. that's a really good player and not easy to replace, production wise. I can see the Jazz wanting to move up in order to target one of the PGs available with our pick, Burke, for instance, would make a lot of sense for them, but I don't think they'd be so invested into that idea as to trade one of their core players for that pick and, frankly, outside of the pick the Kings don't have anybody that'd be all that interesting for the Jazz.

Sad but true. But i think the same applies for Favors.

 

[jalfa]

if we were to target someone available at 14, we shouldn't be looking at players the Jazz have so much, but rather at their capspace, imo. they have very committed salary next year and a whole lot of room for players. maybe moving up is worth taking on a guy like Salmons, if Vivek doesn't want to amnesty and still pay him. maybe they'll take on Outlaw and give us something extra, like a secondrounder. maybe they'll give us 14 and 21 and if we don't like anybody with the latter pick, we can give that one to Cleveland to finally satisfy their outstanding demand of a firstrounder. there's a whole bunch of scenarios where trading with the Jazz makes sense, we just need to temper our expectations a little bit. from what I gather, Jazz fans wouldn't be that opposed to simply drafting Dennis Schröder, if the price of moving up is too high.

 

[kingsfanslc]

the Jazz really need to give the Favors/Kanter frontcourt a real shot. they've shown flashes last year and with a year more of development and more minutes available in the frontcourt (no idea if or whom they want to resign, but it's unlikely they bring back both Millsap and Jefferson), they could be very, very good. much too good to be replaced by a JT/Kanter combo just in order to move up to #7. Jimmer, I'm afraid, would be a non-factor in this and the Kings don't have the assets to make it work any which way.

You are correct about Millsap & Jefferson not coming back. The jazz have stated that a few times.