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Smedium27
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How yall like him after two games?
OptimusRhyme
Jive Turkey
he kinda reminds me of cutino mobley, i like him so far.
Whats up with his contract status? is he a FA after this seasonÉ
Whats up with his contract status? is he a FA after this seasonÉ
Glenn
Hall of Famer
You can find team and player salaries on HoopsHype http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm
He is on a one year contract.
He is on a one year contract.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
At the same time, no one else was able to score any points. As I watched the game I sensed that he finally reached a point where he decided he better do something. To be honest, I have to see him on a much longer basis than a couple of games. So far I have no problem with his effort on defense. He gives away height, but you can only use what god gave you.
rainmaker
Hall of Famer
I like Thornton a lot, and think the fans will come to love him. Let's remember he hasn't even gone through a practice with the team yet. I don't think he took the best shots last night, but you can see the talent, and picture him spreading the floor and hitting jumpers off kickout passes from Tyreke.
He'll definitely help this team once he gets comfortable with everyone, and everyone gets comfrotable with him. I think he could develop into a more potent version of Bobby Jax. Can set up the offense, but not a playmaker. Not the defender B Jax was, but can improve on that end, and I don't think he's as poor on that end as some make him out to be. But he's young, in his 2nd year after making the 2nd all rookie team last year, and should continue to improve. I really do see him down the road as a B Jax/J Terry type, who can fill in a spot starter when someone gets injured.
And for the poster who asked, he's a RFA, so we can match any offer and keep him if we want. I fully expect him to be on our roster next season.
He'll definitely help this team once he gets comfortable with everyone, and everyone gets comfrotable with him. I think he could develop into a more potent version of Bobby Jax. Can set up the offense, but not a playmaker. Not the defender B Jax was, but can improve on that end, and I don't think he's as poor on that end as some make him out to be. But he's young, in his 2nd year after making the 2nd all rookie team last year, and should continue to improve. I really do see him down the road as a B Jax/J Terry type, who can fill in a spot starter when someone gets injured.
And for the poster who asked, he's a RFA, so we can match any offer and keep him if we want. I fully expect him to be on our roster next season.
I hope he works out. However, he like Evans, Cousins and even Thompson, is young and inexperienced meaning more patience. He certainly got his chance last night with eighteen attempts. Give anyone eighteen attempts and you might get 15 points. Like Baja says, let's give him a season and see if he is a positive contributor.
Arby's Roast Beef
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I just hope we don't get into a Beno Udrih-type situation with him (we acquired Udrih at the final year of his contract and signed him to that five year deal three years ago after he played well for us at the latter half of that season). Especially since I think Beno, at least when motivated, as more all-around talent (will rack up big game assists occasionally and is a money mid-range shooter). I can envision Thornton as a spot-up guy for us off Tyreke D and Ks and someone who can possibly create shots when the offense bogs down, but that's one of the more common attributes you'd find among 6'2"-6'4" undersized SGs--it's not a rare commodity. The fear is that he gets into a huge scoring binge at the latter half while we continue to lose games, develops a inflated view of his offensive game, invokes his age and has his agent bring up his "good" rookie year so that he can command money/years in excess. He's definitely not worth that. But as that stopgap, he's ok for the time being.
MassachusettsKingsFan
All-Star
He is who I thought he was. Good shooter .. streaky shooter. Maybe shoots too much, but its hard to tell when he has only played in 2 games and they were both bad losses. I like him as a guard off the bench more than Pooh or Taylor. Not sure where he would fit in when we are all healthy (Cisco included) but I like what he brings/could bring to the team.
LPKingsFan
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It's really not up to his agent, though. If they can find another team to offer him a deal more than we do, we can still match. If they don't, the ball's entirely in our court.
ParniValjak
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Correct but really, I would not want us to go overboard here. Thornton is a great scorer but does not bring anything else to the table. He could be a great scoring punch off the bench but you don't overpay for those. Juan Dixon was undersized and could score off the bench too...couldn't do anything else though.
I wouldn't mind bringing Thornton back but not at any cost. In fact I would have a few other FAs ahead of him as the players I would rather have.
#1 priority re-sign Dalembert
#2 priority sign Nene (if he is still available) or solidify the ever troublesome SF spot. Hopefully there is a young Peja out there somewhere.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Gets to the rack a lot better than I had anticipated. I like that almost 90 degree floater of his, very soft when it hits the rim and pretty much unblockable.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
At this time, only a year and a half into his career, I'm going to look more at what he can do, instead of what he can't do. What he can do is score. To imply that finding SG's that can score with efficiency are a dime a dozen, then I ask, why don't we have one on our roster? When were getting torched by one of those dime a dozen guys, how many of you say, well yeah, he's killing us, but he doesn't play defense. Personally, at the moment, I'm wishing the bastard was on our team.
I watch a lot of college basketball, and the good players, in general, fall into two groups. You have the good defensive players, and you have the good offnesive players. If you can find a player thats good at both ends of the floor, then you've probably got a future star. For the most part you pick what your need is. But always remember, the team that puts the ball into the basket the most times always wins. That means someone has to do it. That means you need scorers.
Hopefully if you aquire a young player that can score the ball, especially in isolation, which is harder to find, you hope he can learn to play defense. Durant wasn't a very good defender when he was drafted. Today he's pretty good defender. I liked Thornton in college. He has quite a few skills. He handles the ball well. Not great, but well. His passing could improve. He can create his own shot, which is a necessity sometimes. He uses screens well. And he's a good shooter. He has good lateral movement, which should lend itself to good defense. Defensively his biggest defecit is his height. Some of the taller SG's can elevate and shoot over him. But then BJax used to guard SG's on occasion and he had a similar problem. Of course BJax just got into their shorts.
If the price is right, I'd like to keep both Taylor and Thornton. Both are similar, but also different, and I like that. Not one size fits all, so its nice to have different styles to throw out there. Both are also young. All we need to do then is trade for Blake Griffin and sign Chris Paul, and were off and running. Yeah, yeah, I know, not going to happen..
I watch a lot of college basketball, and the good players, in general, fall into two groups. You have the good defensive players, and you have the good offnesive players. If you can find a player thats good at both ends of the floor, then you've probably got a future star. For the most part you pick what your need is. But always remember, the team that puts the ball into the basket the most times always wins. That means someone has to do it. That means you need scorers.
Hopefully if you aquire a young player that can score the ball, especially in isolation, which is harder to find, you hope he can learn to play defense. Durant wasn't a very good defender when he was drafted. Today he's pretty good defender. I liked Thornton in college. He has quite a few skills. He handles the ball well. Not great, but well. His passing could improve. He can create his own shot, which is a necessity sometimes. He uses screens well. And he's a good shooter. He has good lateral movement, which should lend itself to good defense. Defensively his biggest defecit is his height. Some of the taller SG's can elevate and shoot over him. But then BJax used to guard SG's on occasion and he had a similar problem. Of course BJax just got into their shorts.
If the price is right, I'd like to keep both Taylor and Thornton. Both are similar, but also different, and I like that. Not one size fits all, so its nice to have different styles to throw out there. Both are also young. All we need to do then is trade for Blake Griffin and sign Chris Paul, and were off and running. Yeah, yeah, I know, not going to happen..
ParniValjak
All-Star
I personally don't think we should keep both because its a major overkill and waste of resources.
We know that going forward if things do not change, Evans, Beno, Cisco and one of those guys will get majority of minutes at the guard spots. If you think that Tyreke and Beno will play 36 minutes each, that leaves 24 minutes of playing time. Cisco will get some of those at SG and some likely at SF so lets ssay he will spend 12 minutes at SG. That leaves 12 minutes to Thornton or Taylor. I wouldn't mind if we kept one of them if the price is reasonable but keeping both is an overkill and waste of $$$ and roster spots.
I would rather we go out and sign a better overall player to push those 2 out. Having said that, I like what Thornton brings and I could see him developing into really good 6th man that brings the scoring punch off the bench.
=LarryLegend=
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Derrick Williams also I like him better than Sullinger.
Section 101
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Dam you woodchucks ! Stop chucking my wood !
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Kingsguy881
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No way guy. This is America, and especially Sacramento. All we do is look at the negative. There is no positive. Ain't you seen the news.....?
Thornton over Beno starting? Don't see it. Fact is the team needs Beno starting no matter who else starts. Beno is the one last night who gave Thornton the chance to look good, and Beno looked good too. Let's let weeds grow a little taller before we crown Thornton or dethrone Beno.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Thronton is a guy a lot like Reke in that he can create his own offense. Those guys don't really need a Beno to help them much. Whether the other guys do or not is the question, and the answere to that one likely lies in DeMarcus. If he becomes the second hub of the offense, then you don't necessarily need Beno there to serve that same role. When Kobe and Shaq were together, the leading assist guy otehr than them was probably at about 3apg, but the offense hummed becaise they had two guys drawing doubles and a sytem designed o et the others open.
Ironically I am not sure if Thronton and Reke work together as starters precisely because of Thornton's 1 on 1 tendencies. All depends if he's also comfortable as a catch and shoot/catch and drive guy. But he is a guy with the skillset to not be overly dependent on other people to spoon feed him opportunities.
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