Tetsujin
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Vince probably saw how much money the Bloodline storyline was making him and decided to try to milk as much cash as he can out of the bones of the company before the sale goes through lol
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My only other guess from that era would be Victoria.
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Did Mickie James ever win the NWA title over the years?
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Late to answer this, but yes. She walked out on her own power After the match, and was in the NXT suite for both nights of Mania.
You would think so, but no. Mickie James never held a championship in the NWA.
It's bed time for me, so here's the answer: the three women who have held both the NWA Women's World Championship and the WWF Women's Championship are...
- The Fabulous Moolah
- Leilani Kai, and
- Jazz
Go figure, Jazz had it right before I started watching. When Thunder Rosa won it, iirc she was in a faction with Milena and Marti Belle, Milena seemed to be the leader but TR got the belt. For some reason I assumed after TR took off Milena held it for a while but it went to Deeb before landing on Kamille who has had it for some time now.
I should have guessed Leilani Kai as I knew the in-between was someone of that era, but after Madusa ran out of names that I knew for certain it wasn't.
That's good, I watched Stand and Deliver early this morning and that botched catch was all I could think about and wasn't the only nasty bump she took.
Rewatched the beginning that I missed. and then Shane. god that was painful he lands and rolls onto the mat and you see the knee do funny things knees don't do... Miz's face was fun to watch while they figured out if it was salvageable and ladyref Jess and the medic did a good job getting Shane out of the ring while Snoop worked the mic long enough to set up the impromptu "match".
The SLAB brand is consistent.
Never, ever, ever let it be said that @SLAB does not keep that same energy.
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This whole arena has the SLAB energy rn.
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PWInsider.com is told that about 15-20 minutes before Raw went live on the air, a number of late rewrites for the episode were ordered, described as not "feeling" like the type of changes talents and staff had come to expect under Paul Levesque. Changes for the episode continued as the show well into being on the air and we are told they came directly from McMahon, who had his own office at Raw, just as he did before his "retirement" in the summer of 2022.
Seems like the main event result between Roman and Cody was universally hated. Then I saw this... was that a takeover or was it always the plan?
Seems like the main event result between Roman and Cody was universally hated. Then I saw this... was that a takeover or was it always the plan?
Warning: long, rambling post that might be taking wrasslin' too seriously incoming.
I gotta pushback on "universally" hated: it might be specific to the corner of the internet I travel in, but the ending to WrestleMania, while surprising, was generally well received aside from the interference. I don't know whether it was a Vince call or not, but I thought it was the right decision, and here's why:
Regardless of whether you like Roman Reigns or not (stares directly at @SLAB), the Bloodline has been the best-written storyline in WWE in years; probably the best since the Yes Movement, definitely the best since KofiMania. And the downfall of the Roman Empire has been ordained since Day One (puns intended).
The subtext of Cody's arc has been "Finish the Story." And people who have expressed dissatisfaction with the way WrestleMania ended have been told, sometimes condescendingly, that "The story's not finished," in a way that implies that there's a lot of story left to be told. Except, there's actually not a lot of story left to be told. There's only a lot of story left to tell if you think that Cody's story started when he returned at WrestleMania 38. If you think that Cody's story started with him having a handful of matches against Seth, and then tearing his body in half, and then going through rehab, winning the Rumble, having a couple of bangers, and then WrestleMania 39, it would make sense to think that the story's not finished. In reality, Cody's story actually started with The Legacy. When he was talking to Solo about standing next to the Champion and not being ready, that wasn't accidental; that's how far back this s*** goes. Cody's story is about Legacy. It's about Stardust, and having to leave WWE in disgrace, without the rights to his own name. It's about having to rebuild himself on the indies, proving doubters wrong by promoting All In, and then co-founding AEW. It's about making himself into a star that was so undeniable that WWE wanted him back. It's about Cody returning as the triumphant, prodigal son, determined to fulfill a promise that he made to himself and to his father, to do what Big Dust was never able to do in WWE: become the World Heavyweight Champion. The logical conclusion to that story was at WrestleMania.
However, comma...
Cody is fighting for vindication. He's fighting for validation. He's fighting for legacy, he's fighting against ghosts.
The antagonist of Cody Rhodes' story is not Roman Reigns.
And that's a problem.
Roman's evolution from the silent 'heavy' of The Shield to the s***-talking Head of the Table has been nothing short of brilliant. From a guy who was getting the dreaded "X-Pac Heat" when he went over the Undertaker to being a Final Boss monster heel who has fans mimicking his ridiculously long ring entrance every week. A guy who was getting cheered as a white-meat babyface after coming back from cancer, and then used his cancer diagnosis as the motivation behind his heel turn. A guy who was portraying himself as the sympathetic figure, while he was beating his flesh and blood to a pulp! He has turned back all challengers to his throne, fueled by the burden of having to provide for his family... his Bloodline. He beat his own family into submission, in order to protect his championship. When the Roman Empire falls, it has to be from within, that's the only way this can end.
So you can see the problem, yeah?
When Roman's reign (no pun intended) is brought to an end, it can't be with Roman being a footnote in somebody else's story. And that's why Cody couldn't win on Sunday: honestly, the worst thing that they could have done for Cody's story was to bring him back for the Royal Rumble. Because once he won the Rumble, everybody who was rooting for Cody to Finish the Story™ at WrestleMania was setting themselves up for disappointment. What should have happened, IMO, is that WWE should have spent the time that Cody was injured building up a new monster heel, so that when Jey beats Roman, that heel could beat Jey, and that should have been the guy that Cody pins at WrestleMania. Because, and here's the point, who Roman loses the Championship to matters more than who Cody beats to become the Champion.
That would be unfortunate, but I refuse to put any level of ****ery past Vincent Kennedy McMahon, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I agree that Cody was not the best person to end the reign and @Mr. S£im Citrus is spot on that Cody has his own story to tell. I'd have rather seen Sami there Sunday but something with Jey or even the Rock (which I think is the $$$ is no object dream match for WWE and whoever owns it) make the most sense kayfabe when it comes to dissolving the bloodline.
Reading the Raw reports is depressing AF. I don't get it, hasn't everything about WWE been remarkably positive since Vince left? Talent relations, reception to the storylines, everything. Why would anyone buy WWE and then put Vince back in charge? Big the gerbil and the rat energy ala @Tetsujin.
I've also heard rumors that PLEs will go back to being PPVs as early as this summer.
It's been fun.
Reading the Raw reports is depressing AF. I don't get it, hasn't everything about WWE been remarkably positive since Vince left? Talent relations, reception to the storylines, everything. Why would anyone buy WWE and then put Vince back in charge? Big the gerbil and the rat energy ala @Tetsujin.
I've also heard rumors that PLEs will go back to being PPVs as early as this summer.
It's been fun.
For the same reason why WWE puts on Saudi shows: because some super-rich a*****e thinks that things were better "back in the day," i.e., when XYZ were in the main event, and/or when Vince was in charge.
Yeah but the super rich saudi jerk is doing it for his own ego-satisfaction and not as a business venture (I think?). Does Ari Emmanuel/Endeavor think that the Vince run product is better than we had in the last 9 months?
I honestly don't follow the day to day business dealings so it may be thoroughly possible that even though Trips's changes appealed to the die hard wrestling fan base, that they did not have the same appeal to investors. I did note that apparently WWE stock is down as a result of this news, which is the opposite reaction the usual purchase agreement generates, so either they're selling at a discount so Vince can have some power back or investors lack confidence in the buyer.
Apparently he does, or else Vince staying on wouldn't have been a condition of his acquiring the promotion (allegedly).
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