The time for Musselman to go is NOW!
- Thread starter BLNINJA #81
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Oh come on, there's no way I'm worthy to be compared to the all time Great One
It's not that such a comparison didn't get me grinning ear to ear. Because it did
You can be his padawan.
BLNINJA #81
Bench
Soooooooooooooooo.......... Anyone after this lovely bobcat game still want's this fool as our coach for the rest of this year???
Bingo!
Miles and Miles
G-League
Why can the Bucks be so lucky and can their coach but we have to stick it out with ours?
Having a new coach next year is a MUST so why not make the change now and start moving forward and allow that coach to get to know his team?
Having a new coach next year is a MUST so why not make the change now and start moving forward and allow that coach to get to know his team?
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Which coach would that be?
The Bucks must have had Krystowiak in their pocket (as a former player also). But normally that would be a dumb move. MUCh better to wait until the offseason, and then have a full slate of guys, from experienced bigwigs to other team's assistants, to interview/consider. With a month to go like this, the only people you can get are inexperienced longshots. Unless you have somebody all lined up, might as well wait the 19 games. Be a hwole new team next year anyway, might as well start it off fresh with a new coach/system.
Not only that, but Bucks fans still had to suffer through Stotts for three years...
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Yeah, never got why they ditched Porter. Oh well.
Miles and Miles
G-League
The term is "Interim Coach", I believe.
Send a message that you are actually concerned about how bad the team is playing so far, and let the fan base know that you plan on doing something about it.
You're right, though. Getting rid of Musselman now does us no good when it comes to improving the coaching situation (which should automatically improve the play of the team). There isn't a coach out there who will get us into the playoffs with a chance at making any noise. This year is done.
That having been said, any changes made should be with the view of improving for the future of the team, and convincing this confused and disappointed fan base that you - as ownership - are committed to rebuilding the team and having us at least contending in the division in the next two or three years.
The thing is, the Maloofs gave Kings fans the impression that they were going to at least put out a team that would be as good as last year's team, with the hope of it being better. That's the reason they didn't resign Rick Adelman, if I remember correctly. They went out and hired Eric Musselman - providing no reason to believe that he would coach the team any more effectively than Adelman did - and he has disappointed. Showed symptoms of poor decision-making before the season even started. And now, he's sitting on the sidelines making money for a job that he's evidently not qualified to do.
And I, as a die-hard fan, am left to sit here and wonder what the hell the team is planning to do to put a winning product back on the floor. Or if they're just planning to put the team in the back of a Mayflower truck and move in the middle of the night, ala the Baltimore Colts in 1984. It's frustrating as hell. It truly is.
And I, as a die-hard fan, would absolutely LOVE to see the Kings can Musselman's a** tomorrow, have an assistant coach the team into the lottery as good or better (which means worse, technically) as Musselman is doing right now. It would make me believe that the team isn't on auto-pilot, that they actually give a flying hell about their fans and winning again.
Might as well wait the rest of the season out, because we can't improve now. But we can be convinced. I know I need to be.
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Nice post, Supes! Good to see you around.
Not to mention 5 out of the top 10 years for the Kings/Royals franchise since 1949.
kennadog
Dog On It!
I just got my ESPN mag in the mail today. On the NBA Insider page,,in the "3 Seconds" section was this tidbit (no source and there's no byline):
"Ron Artest isn't the only one walking a thin line in Sac-Town. The Maloof matriarch, Colleen, saved Eric Musselman from a midseason canning. She felt he deserved a a full season to prove himself."
Since there's no reporter name and no source for this tidbit, it would have to be called nothing more than a rumor. However, a coment of two from the Maloof bros. has been an indication of the bloom being off the rose for awhile now, anyway.
"Ron Artest isn't the only one walking a thin line in Sac-Town. The Maloof matriarch, Colleen, saved Eric Musselman from a midseason canning. She felt he deserved a a full season to prove himself."
Since there's no reporter name and no source for this tidbit, it would have to be called nothing more than a rumor. However, a coment of two from the Maloof bros. has been an indication of the bloom being off the rose for awhile now, anyway.
PixelPusher
Starter
We've come a long way since last year when Muss bowled over the Maloofs with his job interview.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
So our rotating cast of potential villains contunes to spin. First I thought it was Joe who was the problem -- the possible architect of the Webber trade, primary self righteous Adelman antagonist etc. Then I thought it was Gavin, seemed determined to make the dumbest quotes about this season and may have tied Geoff's hands in blowing it up, not that the Maloofs ever sound terribly bright. Now its on to mom, who was a major factor in trying to get Whiz hired, and now may again have meddled and prevented Muss from being dismissed.
If there is anywhere close to as much meddling going on as has been reported by various media outlets, are we even going to have Geoff around to attempt the rebuild? And if we do, is he going to be allowed to do anything? Or has mama Maloof, like the Maloof boys, decided that she has learned all she needs to know about running an NBA team by showing up to sit in the face time seats for 2 hours every 10th game?
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kennadog
Dog On It!
All I know is, if the Maloofs are meddling as much as it seems, its a bad sign for the Kings. And no, I don't think Geoff will want to continue to put up with it. Geoff may not be great, but I still think he's an above average GM. After watching the process to hire Musselman, I shudder to think who we could end up with as a replacement for GP.
Yes folks, it is entirely possible for things to get worse....much, much worse. 
Yes folks, it is entirely possible for things to get worse....much, much worse. 
Kingster
Hall of Famer
Scapegoat
Muss is the scapegoat. He's the schrapnel casaulty of the GM/owners who either haven't had a strategy to rebuild, haven't had the guts to rebuild, or both.
Let's see. He has a team that is too short - Miller, the tallest, plays like he's 6'7" - and a team that is too slow - Bibby and SAR being the paragons of those virtues. Then Miller has had had a terrible year shooting the ball. Muss just can't make those wide open 18 footers for him. And Bibby, he's been up and down and all around; he's so confident in his performance that he's already opined he will not be optioning out. And last but not least, Muss has a juvenile delinquent as part of his core. That's a dream team, I know.
I guess the Kings should be a lot better than New Orleans, the Lakers, the Clippers (even before their pg went out), Golden State, all with well-respected head coaches and long track records, all of whom are stumbling, bumbling, and fumbling on their way to a 7th or 8th playoff spot. Phil just lost his 7th game in a row, the bum. Can't even win with a superstar, the bum.
All I can say is, give me a team with speed, a team with length, youth, and vitality, and then let's see what Muss will do then. His rebound stats will go way up, his defense will be better, there will be more fast breaks, and low and behold he might be in the running for Coach of the Year - again.
Muss is the scapegoat. He's the schrapnel casaulty of the GM/owners who either haven't had a strategy to rebuild, haven't had the guts to rebuild, or both.
Let's see. He has a team that is too short - Miller, the tallest, plays like he's 6'7" - and a team that is too slow - Bibby and SAR being the paragons of those virtues. Then Miller has had had a terrible year shooting the ball. Muss just can't make those wide open 18 footers for him. And Bibby, he's been up and down and all around; he's so confident in his performance that he's already opined he will not be optioning out. And last but not least, Muss has a juvenile delinquent as part of his core. That's a dream team, I know.
I guess the Kings should be a lot better than New Orleans, the Lakers, the Clippers (even before their pg went out), Golden State, all with well-respected head coaches and long track records, all of whom are stumbling, bumbling, and fumbling on their way to a 7th or 8th playoff spot. Phil just lost his 7th game in a row, the bum. Can't even win with a superstar, the bum.
All I can say is, give me a team with speed, a team with length, youth, and vitality, and then let's see what Muss will do then. His rebound stats will go way up, his defense will be better, there will be more fast breaks, and low and behold he might be in the running for Coach of the Year - again.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Unfortunately for Muss we had a coach just a year ago indirectly show him up by making a serious charge down the stretch with nearly exactly the same team. Benefits of experience, stature, oh, and a coach who basically never has a losing season. And instead Muss comes in, alienates the team, fails at exactly what he was theoretically hired to do (defense etc.), and makes high profile and obvious mistakes repeatedly. And so what you have now is Muss heading straight toward getting fired...again. Which may mercifully end his NBA head coaching career. Maybe he can go give college a shot, might have better luck and rehabilitate his image. Might even have one more shot in him 5-10 years down the line if he can do the successful college coach "oh I've learned so much" thing.
Muss was set up to "fail" to coach a nonexistent contending team into contention. He was hired on a wave of delusion, and that wave was going to crash. But at no point was he set up to have a largely healthy year with this crew and spend virtually the entire season sub .500 (last time we were even .500 was Dec. 4th when we werre 8-8), and have virtually no shot at reachign .500 by the end of the year. Recurring pattern in his career.
Muss was set up to "fail" to coach a nonexistent contending team into contention. He was hired on a wave of delusion, and that wave was going to crash. But at no point was he set up to have a largely healthy year with this crew and spend virtually the entire season sub .500 (last time we were even .500 was Dec. 4th when we werre 8-8), and have virtually no shot at reachign .500 by the end of the year. Recurring pattern in his career.
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kennadog
Dog On It!
Well if the quality of the players on the team goes up that much, then how can you attribute that to the coach?
To me a good coach who gets the most out of the players he has available and he should be able to get his players to play as a team, no matter the quality of the players. Sorry, but I don't even see a glimmer of those qualities in Muss.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
I see those qualities emanate from this team when it plays without Artest. The ball moves, the players move, they run more. They most definitely play as a team. Enter the unpredictable X factor: Artest. The only person who can control Artest is Artest. If you think there is some coach out there that can control him, then we have arrived at our point of difference.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
There's where we differ. It's nearly the exact team in name only. The biggest difference is that we now have Ron II instead of Ron I. I'd bet that when Ron first went to Indiana he was a model citizen - he was Ron I. He played the right way, did what his coach wanted. But then Ron II reared his head and everything went awry. Maybe he got some cudos, maybe he reverted to his comfort zone. In any case, Ron II is bad news for any coach and any team. The second difference is that in losing Bonzi (which I was in favor), we lost someone who could make up for our greatest weakness - rebounding - and who could make big shots down the stretch of games.
Ryle
Starter
I don't know Brick...I think Bonzi was the reason this team made a charge. He came back in the New Jersey game on 03/06 and at that point we were 28-31(one game better than we were after 59 games this year). We then went 16-7 down the stretch and quite frankly without him we would have been swept by San Antonio. As a team we were also rebounding the hell out of the ball. Without Bonzi actually fighting for rebounds we now simply wait for it to fall in our hands.
It was awfully nice to have Bonzi starting and bring Kevin off the bench.
HighFlyingMonkey
Starter
I'm sick of the fact that the Maloofs are trying to take over the organization. Let Petrie do his job, damn it.
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