Suggestion of FA's, who do we get?

Dunkster

Dunkster

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Ok look, I know most of my idea's have been kind of bad so here is a look.

We need shooters. We are very low and the 3 pt. So JJ Redick comes to my mind. Though he is not a shooting guard like we need, could we put him there? Probably not.

Well the Mike Miller would be perfect but, we don't have the money for him.

What do we do? What do you guys think we should do, or pick up?

oh btw, just throwing it out? Who would want Jason Williams back?
 
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mac

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There are kinda lots and lots and lots of threads about this already ... I'm with you on Redick, but I doubt the majority of people share our sentiments
 
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Prince_XY

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mac said:
There are kinda lots and lots and lots of threads about this already ... I'm with you on Redick, but I doubt the majority of people share our sentiments
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I agree.

There are lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and of threads about this already.:p

And there are lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of free agents to be had.:p

We will be dizzy for sure reading this thread alone in identifying which FA everybody wants.

Maybe the OP wants to edit the title into JJ. Redick thread?
 
bajaden

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mac said:
There are kinda lots and lots and lots of threads about this already ... I'm with you on Redick, but I doubt the majority of people share our sentiments
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I'd be on board with Redick. I think he's proved he can play in this league. He's exactly the kind of player I'm looking for. Good outside shooter who can handle a little and pass the ball. And he's young.. I think he would prefer to stay in Orlando, and from what I've heard they want him back.
 
Dunkster

Dunkster

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bajaden said:
I'd be on board with Redick. I think he's proved he can play in this league. He's exactly the kind of player I'm looking for. Good outside shooter who can handle a little and pass the ball. And he's young.. I think he would prefer to stay in Orlando, and from what I've heard they want him back.
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Yepp yepp. Looks like the better guy.
 
NME

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Redick works if we can get him at a reasonable price, but it will be hard to get him cheap with his restricted status.
 
ParniValjak

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Megalodon said:
Money is the one thing we do have.
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But not the sort of money long term that he is looking for. Miller will get MLE over 5 years and at his game, that contract will be bloated half way through it.

Now if we were a team in contention, sure I would spend that money and even a little bit more but we are a team thats not going to contend within the next 2 years so when we are ready to do our thing, Miller would be an overpaid role player on decline.

If I were the Lakers or Orlando or Cavs I would definetly throw that kind of money at Mike Miller but for a rebuilding team to give a long term deal to Miller would be irresponsible. I would give him more than MLE provided that its a 3 year deal but anything over the 3 year period becomes a little bit too risky especially with potential introduction of hard cap in the new CBA.
 
Kingster

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I've been on board with Redick, but he does play with the best center in the NBA, so that does make his life considerably easier. Would he play as well on the Kings as Orlando? I kinda doubt it, but maybe down the line if Cousins can consistently draw the double team, he would be just as good with the Kings as in Orlando.
 
bajaden

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Kingster said:
I've been on board with Redick, but he does play with the best center in the NBA, so that does make his life considerably easier. Would he play as well on the Kings as Orlando? I kinda doubt it, but maybe down the line if Cousins can consistently draw the double team, he would be just as good with the Kings as in Orlando.
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I think Cousins will draw the double team, and sooner than one might think. You can't double Tyreke and Cousins at the same time, unless of course they happen to be standing next to each other, which is something the Kings need to advoid. But in either event, someone like Redick would be a huge help in keeping defenses honest.
 
beb0p

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I'm not down with Redick, have never really been impressed with him. Don't get me wrong, the man belongs on an NBA roster and he is good for spreading the floor but you can't convince me that he is a better player than Anthony Morrow, Tony Allen, Von Wafer or a plethora of SGs who can be had for equal or less money than what Redick commands. I like Redick as a $2 million per year type of guy, I dont' like him as an MLE or somewhere close to it.

If the Kings need a guy to spread the floor, Garcia or Casspi can do that, plus they are better defenders and bigger than Redick. I'd rather the Kings take a chance on a guy who has talent, has shown glimpse of achievement but for whatever reason couldn't crack the rotation and is on the fringe of the NBA, a guy who is hungry and has a chip on his shoulder. Guys like Terrence Kinsey, Von Wafer, Dominic McGuire, Shaun Livingston, or Acie Law just to name a few.

Plus, I know those guys will be happy getting just a fraction of what Redick will be paid.
 
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Kingstime

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Depending on where Bron/Wade and Bosh end up there will be a team willing to over spend to plug a hole, Mike Miller will get one of those offers. I can easily see him ending up in Chicago, NY or Miami with a big contract, probably why he turned down the Laker offer.
 
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JB_kings

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What's up with all the big man trade and free agent sign suggestion threads? Didn't enough get shifted around in that area with the trade and the draft?
 
funkykingston

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JB_kings said:
What's up with all the big man trade and free agent sign suggestion threads? Didn't enough get shifted around in that area with the trade and the draft?
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Exactly. The Kings have a VERY different roster today than they did a month ago and with all the uncertainty about how a new CBA might impact the team's ability to re-sign their own young players (most of all Tyreke and then presumably Cousins) I have zero issue with Petrie spending no real money in free agency this summer.

This team likely won't make the playoffs this season let alone be a serious contender, so why not take a year and see what the Kings have on their hands before overspending to bring in role players? When the dust settles on the new CBA and Petrie/Westphal know how this team fits together it will be a better time to think about using FA to shore up the team.
 
bajaden

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funkykingston said:
Exactly. The Kings have a VERY different roster today than they did a month ago and with all the uncertainty about how a new CBA might impact the team's ability to re-sign their own young players (most of all Tyreke and then presumably Cousins) I have zero issue with Petrie spending no real money in free agency this summer.

This team likely won't make the playoffs this season let alone be a serious contender, so why not take a year and see what the Kings have on their hands before overspending to bring in role players? When the dust settles on the new CBA and Petrie/Westphal know how this team fits together it will be a better time to think about using FA to shore up the team.
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Well said! I think were close to having our team. Now's the time to let them play and really see what we have.

I just read that Toronto and the Heat have worked out a sign and trade for Bosh and Calderon, for Chalmers and two future first round picks from the Heat. I think we can safely say that Wade's resigning with the Heat isn't far behind. With Wade and Bosh out of the picture it will be interesting to see what LeBron does. I know Miami is still trying to clear space by moving Beasley. Maybe they think they can lure LeBron too. Personally I doubt it. More likely the Heat is going after a second tier player.
 
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sdballer

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bajaden said:
Well said! I think were close to having our team. Now's the time to let them play and really see what we have.

I just read that Toronto and the Heat have worked out a sign and trade for Bosh and Calderon, for Chalmers and two future first round picks from the Heat. I think we can safely say that Wade's resigning with the Heat isn't far behind. With Wade and Bosh out of the picture it will be interesting to see what LeBron does. I know Miami is still trying to clear space by moving Beasley. Maybe they think they can lure LeBron too. Personally I doubt it. More likely the Heat is going after a second tier player.
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I think that was just a hypothetical s&T from Bucher's twitter, not an actual trade.
 
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Smills91

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They'd have to Sign and Trade for LeBron using JO's contract to land LeBron in Miami. As adding Calderon's deal + Bosh's Max, + Wade resigning + Beasley all equate to the Heat not being able to sign LeBron outright.

Don't think Cleveland is down with a SnT with LeBron...so there's that. I still think LeBron re-signs in Cleveland as option A or signs with Jersey or Chicago as option B.
 
ParniValjak

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There is one name that has not been mentioned but I could see us pulling the trigger on this one. Jason Kapono is a great shooter and nothing more and is in the final year of his contract. I could see us trading for him and his expiring and then letting it simmer for a year and we decide that we no longer want him, then thats fine since we are not obliged to bring him back. If we like him as a shooter then we can bring him back for MUCH less than he is earning now.

Not a "sexy" addition but one that gives us some serious 3PT shooting at SG/SF spot.
 
Chupacabra

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Čarolija said:
There is one name that has not been mentioned but I could see us pulling the trigger on this one. Jason Kapono is a great shooter and nothing more and is in the final year of his contract. I could see us trading for him and his expiring and then letting it simmer for a year and we decide that we no longer want him, then thats fine since we are not obliged to bring him back. If we like him as a shooter then we can bring him back for MUCH less than he is earning now.

Not a "sexy" addition but one that gives us some serious 3PT shooting at SG/SF spot.
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I would pass on Kapono. Hes a really good shooter...and thats it. SF is a filled position already. Garcia is a better player than Kapono. Kapono would get burned by every shooting guard in the league.
 
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I'd be interested for the following FA:

1. C.J. Watson (6'2" PG, Age: 26) - Unrestricted: It's just that every time I see the Kings playing against the Warriors, Watson almost always comes big. He is around 35% in 3pt in his career, and is one of those really hard nosed player (just from what I see, though I don't see him play a lot)
2. Marquis Daniels (6'6" SG, Age: 29) - Unrestricted: I used to see a lot of potential on this kid mostly on his defensive ability. He'll be a solid rotation player at SG. He was better when he was with the Pacers and Dallas than with Boston.
3. Roger Mason (6'5" SG, Age 29) - Unrestricted : Not bad from the perimeter. maybe able to play some point.
4. Kyle Korver and Mike Miller : for the main reason they are know for. Perimeter consistency!
 
kingsnation

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KingsCitizen said:
1. C.J. Watson (6'2" PG, Age: 26) - Unrestricted: It's just that every time I see the Kings playing against the Warriors, Watson almost always comes big. He is around 35% in 3pt in his career, and is one of those really hard nosed player (just from what I see, though I don't see him play a lot)
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Lol, try not to base a player off of their games against us. We have a tendency of turning the Jerome James's of the world into Shaqs...and the CJs into MJs. ;)
 
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Kingstime

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KingsCitizen said:
I'd be interested for the following FA:

1. C.J. Watson (6'2" PG, Age: 26) - Unrestricted: It's just that every time I see the Kings playing against the Warriors, Watson almost always comes big. He is around 35% in 3pt in his career, and is one of those really hard nosed player (just from what I see, though I don't see him play a lot)
2. Marquis Daniels (6'6" SG, Age: 29) - Unrestricted: I used to see a lot of potential on this kid mostly on his defensive ability. He'll be a solid rotation player at SG. He was better when he was with the Pacers and Dallas than with Boston.
3. Roger Mason (6'5" SG, Age 29) - Unrestricted : Not bad from the perimeter. maybe able to play some point.
4. Kyle Korver and Mike Miller : for the main reason they are know for. Perimeter consistency!
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The guys on that list are either.

A. Injury prone- Daniels who was dissapointing in Boston most likely because he was injured all year, he can play point but can he stay healthy? Same thing with Korver he can shoot the lights out but has been injury prone the last couple years.

B.High Priced- Miller turned down a big contract to play in LA, I doubt he gives us a look when there will be bigger checks out there once the LeDiva sweepstakes ends.

or...

Just not that good. I liked Mason in SA a couple years ago could knock down some three's, but he didn't play much at all last year. We have had a lil bit of a success with the Spurs castoffs (Beno,Ime) if he comes cheap I say why not take a look at him.
 
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Megalodon said:
Money is the one thing we do have.
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We have cap space. Whether the Maloofs can/will put actual dollars behind that money is another issue. It’s not the same thing.

I doubt – even if the right deal came along – they would be willing to spend all of the cap this summer. I don’t think they are budgeting for that. They will bargain shop for a few vets, hold the space for a while, and probably make a trade to rent the cap space to another team for profit. (ie the Sergio trade before the last draft or the Cassell trade before that)

When the Maloofs were free spending owners, they had a profitable beer distributorship and a profitable casino. Attendance for the Kings was also strong.

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?34766-Maloof-Money-Part-1

Fast forward to today, the casino is hemorrhaging red ink and the beer distributorship was sold to increase liquidity. One could make the argument that they need to spend money to grow fan support, but I don’t think they will deficit spend on both businesses.

Thus, our payroll limit will match or be slightly below the level needed to ensure a break even season or slight loss. Until there are some signs of hope in Vegas or the Arena front … we might be the Oakland A’s of basketball for a while. We will take on cheap vets / young players who might break out ... with short term deals … and see if we can squeeze some value out of them and perhaps resign one of them. Ie – Landry closer to test driving Holiday and Delambert trying to squeeze value out of Jason Kendall.

(Note – the Landry point doesn’t refer to the likelihood of performance or retention – merely the “value shopping,” we see with the A’s.)
 
Telemachus

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KingsCitizen said:
I'd be interested for the following FA:

1. C.J. Watson (6'2" PG, Age: 26) - Unrestricted: It's just that every time I see the Kings playing against the Warriors, Watson almost always comes big. He is around 35% in 3pt in his career, and is one of those really hard nosed player (just from what I see, though I don't see him play a lot)
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The Warriors made him a qualifying offer, so he is a restricted FA.
 
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hiero

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I really do not see us signing any free agents other than low level ones this year. I could definitely see us making a trade for a player whose team is tryin to get rid of his contract I think petrie kind of alluded to this being a possibility. I'd love to get a top not shooting guard with good size and a good outside shot.

I wouldn't mind giving Lowry a shot but there's really no one out there as a fa that really is a long term solution for us. I'm hoping we can pull off a trade for some more young talent at the guard position to play next to tyreke. it probably isn't possible to get the long term solution at SG this year but I could definitely seeing Petrie take a really good guard next year and the kings making the playoffs.
 
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