Steven Curry= DOUBY 2

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Would the kings select another undersized SG to play PG?

just a thought. Currys stock is now between 3-10. He can shoot lights out so you know Petries on board. Plus he showing some passing skills.

BUT IS HE TOO RISKY?!?! Petrie and all of us would kill ourselves if he turned out just like Douby. I do think their semi alike.

Curry looks much safer considering that he plays against better talent and has shown that he can also play on a big stage and come through in the clutch. Plus the most important thing is hes actually playing PG in college now so thats something Douby never did before we picked him.

? dunno what ya think?
 
There's absolutely no comparison. Stephen is far, far ahead of Douby in terms of skills, level of competition and experience.

The hope for Douby was that he would be a late first-round sleeper, someone who could come off the bench as a combo guard and score some points, sort of like a better Eddie House. Didn't happen, or at least hasn't yet (and not looking like it will).

Stephen's cieling is really difficult to judge, but it certainly is way higher than Douby's ever was. Stephen looks to me almost like a poor man's Isiah Thomas, able to score practically everywhere and still set guys up.

At the same time, his lack of athleticism leaves such a big question mark. He's able to do a whole lot of dipsy dos in college that aren't going to fly in the NBA.

Normally I try not to get too excited about guys who lack NBA-level athleticism, but Curry's ability to score is one of the most uncanny I've ever seen at the college level. He's almost like a savant. He's got off the charts natural ability. I'm really curious to see how he'll do in the NBA.
 
he is unselfish as well. scoring 0 points in order to garantee his team a victory is unprecidented with todays all eyes on me players.
 
Curry's a good player, but I really don't think he's gonna amount to much in the NBA to be honest. Maybe a solid role player. I'll pass on him. Sure, he carried his team in the tournament last year, but he also lost it for them I thought with a lot of out of control shots and unnecessary long 3's in the last few minutes of their last game
 
Back when I was a relative newbie in "scouting" college players, I tought Juan Dixon was awesome the year Maryland won it all. But after I saw what he did in the NBA, I learned never to judge an NBA player through college production. Players who really, really fit that prototype this year include Tyler Hansbrough, Notre Dame's introduction of another stiff, Luke Harangody, and unfortunately for him, Stephen Curry. I think he has guts and can really shoot it like his father Dell Curry before him, but don't you wish he was 6'5" instead of 6'3"? As one noted, height does make a huge difference here
 
Juan Dixon though was just all about "heart" and shooting ability. He had a great jump shot. He never displayed the kind of moves that Curry has shown, and he never solely carried his team -- in fact, his team featured three solid NBA players with Dixon, Steve Blake and Chris Wilcox.

Again, I get that you have to factor in size and athletic ability. I just have this feeling that Curry might be one of those guys who breaks out anyway through sheer natural talent.
 
nbrans said:
Juan Dixon though was just all about "heart" and shooting ability. He had a great jump shot. He never displayed the kind of moves that Curry has shown, and he never solely carried his team -- in fact, his team featured three solid NBA players with Dixon, Steve Blake and Chris Wilcox.

Again, I get that you have to factor in size and athletic ability. I just have this feeling that Curry might be one of those guys who breaks out anyway through sheer natural talent.
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I agree. did you read the story about that game a week or so ago I was talking about?
 
nbrans said:
Yeah -- just stood in the corner to let his team play 4 on 3. Finished with 0 points and a 30 point win.
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Kind of a crappy move or savy which ever way you look at by the opposing coach. Even down by 20 or more with 5-10 min left in the game they continued doing the same defense. the coach said he will be known for holding Curry to 0 points for a game. LOL I am guessing they had not chance to win no matter what they did so he wanted to take something away from it.
he averages 7 assist.
 
Entity said:
Kind of a crappy move or savy which ever way you look at by the opposing coach. Even down by 20 or more with 5-10 min left in the game they continued doing the same defense. the coach said he will be known for holding Curry to 0 points for a game. LOL I am guessing they had not chance to win no matter what they did so he wanted to take something away from it.
he averages 7 assist.
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That coach will be known for being an idiot. What a loser.

As for Curry, I was skeptical about the switch to the point, but he's been impressive so far. I could see Geoff liking him (and he'd continue the Kevin and JT trend of smaller schools).
 
Curry is just an enigma in so many ways. He's probably the most naturally talented scorer in the draft. And this year he's made the transition to PG, making him all the more intriguing.

His physicals don't blow you away, 6'2 ish, not too great hops, but with super crafty ballhandling and upper echelon quickness. Plus the fear of that jumpshot. But if he's going to succeed in the NBA, he's going to have to develop that PG ability.
 
Entity said:
Kind of a crappy move or savy which ever way you look at by the opposing coach. Even down by 20 or more with 5-10 min left in the game they continued doing the same defense. the coach said he will be known for holding Curry to 0 points for a game. LOL I am guessing they had not chance to win no matter what they did so he wanted to take something away from it.
he averages 7 assist.
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Its a bush league move.
 
He's really unusual...but he's no Douby. He could be a Mahmoud Abdul Rauf, but he could also be a Mark Price or Steve Nash. If he continues to play the point as well as he has this year, he is totally deserving of a top 5 pick. He's a good athlete, good defender, with an outstanding hoops IQ plus about a pure a jump shot as you can get.
 
He's actually a guy I really, really like. He's not just a one dimensional shooter/scorer like Reddick or Morrison, this guy can really play. He's so strange to analyse because he looks like a kid, but he's really quick and I've never seen anyone shoot the ball so well. He's deadly moving without the ball and apart from that he has some PG skills as well. 7 APG is excellent for a college PG, although I wouldn't expect him to keep it up for the full season. He may not be a full time PG, but it sure is nice to know he can handle the ball and distribute it adequately.

The guy flat out knows how to score. Also, he's money in the clutch. Has a huge heart too. I really do think he'll be one of the exceptions to the rule, small school or not. Fortunately, he seems like a Petrie pick. Even though it's not a position of need (unless you do consider him a PG), I'd still love to have him. This is a bold statement, but my comparison would be a less one dimensional Reggie Miller (not saying he will achieve the great things Reggie did, but as a type of player).
 
Honestly, I've never paid particular attention to his defense (maybe because I've been jumping up and down hollering after he just hit yet another huge 3!). I'm sure he would get abused in the NBA right now defensively due to his lack of strength. However, he is pretty long and quick so I guess the potential is there to, at least, not be a liability.
 
I would be really tempted to draft him in the top 5. I think a martin/curry back court would be pretty damn exciting.

Curry
Martin
Garcia
Thompson
Hawes

Not really sure what players we'd have in a year but I think that's an intriguing set of players. Throw in another first rounder probably 2 and releaving most of the dead weight players and I'm pretty excited about this team again.

And remember what happened the last time we drafted an electrifying point guard?
I say we do it again!
 
I have a question guys.
Do you guys think curry can be a full time point guard in this league?

I mean i know he can shoot very well and pass the ball, but I'm not sure if he dribble well enough to be a full time PG.

Do you guys think he is going to have better PG skill than Ellis? cause i dont really cosider him as PG. and if i do, he wont lead the team to the final.
 
Dime Dropper said:
Honestly, I've never paid particular attention to his defense (maybe because I've been jumping up and down hollering after he just hit yet another huge 3!). I'm sure he would get abused in the NBA right now defensively due to his lack of strength. However, he is pretty long and quick so I guess the potential is there to, at least, not be a liability.
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He's averaging around two steals a game. In my opinion he's a pretty good defender. At least at the college level.
 
wonjaeyou said:
I have a question guys.
Do you guys think curry can be a full time point guard in this league?

I mean i know he can shoot very well and pass the ball, but I'm not sure if he dribble well enough to be a full time PG.

Do you guys think he is going to have better PG skill than Ellis? cause i dont really cosider him as PG. and if i do, he wont lead the team to the final.
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Let me first say that I'm one of those guys that doesn't approve of drafting a two guard from college and then trying to convert him into a pt guard. It fails much more than it suceeds. Douby being a recent example of that, and I could name countless others.

In Curry's case, I'm intrigued. He's shown the ability to pass the ball intellingently. He's seems to have pretty darn good court vision and good basketball IQ. There's no doubt that he's a terrific scorer and shooter. Maybe the best in college right now. There's no doubt that he's being asked to carry most of the offensive load. But I wouldn't call him a selfish player. He'll pass the ball to an open teammate.

Is he a sure thing as a point guard? No! He would be somewhat of a gamble if its a pure pt guard your looking for. I would rather wait before I would say yes to drafting him, but I'm leaning hard in his direction right now.

My wish list right now ( it will change ) in order of wishing.

Griffin
Rubio
Gorden
Jennings
Curry
Thabeet
Lawal
Aminu
Munroe
 
est.1999 said:
And remember what happened the last time we drafted an electrifying point guard?
I say we do it again!
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Then let's draft Rubio since he's an ACTUAL point guard (like J-Dub)!!!!!!!

I like Curry as a college player, but he is not Monta Ellis (not even close). He is not Gilbert Arenas. He is not Louis Williams. He may not even be Jerryd Bayless! He is somewhere between Ben Gordon and Juan Dixon--Eddie House, maybe?--because he's undersized and not very athletic--and you can't have both of those strikes against you if you want to be successful in the NBA.

He can score, make the VERY OBVIOUS pass, and gamble for steals. Fine. What can he do at an NBA level that justifies him starting for an NBA team? Don't worry...I'll wait.
 
creative one said:
Then let's draft Rubio since he's an ACTUAL point guard (like J-Dub)!!!!!!!

I like Curry as a college player, but he is not Monta Ellis (not even close). He is not Gilbert Arenas. He is not Louis Williams. He may not even be Jerryd Bayless! He is somewhere between Ben Gordon and Juan Dixon--Eddie House, maybe?--because he's undersized and not very athletic--and you can't have both of those strikes against you if you want to be successful in the NBA.

He can score, make the VERY OBVIOUS pass, and gamble for steals. Fine. What can he do at an NBA level that justifies him starting for an NBA team? Don't worry...I'll wait.
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This makes it sound like you've never seen him play. I like Rubio too, but Stephen Curry playing PG this year is proving he might be able to do it in the pros too. Gambling for steals and making the obvious pass can also be called reading the offense and making the SMART pass.
 
creative one said:
Then let's draft Rubio since he's an ACTUAL point guard (like J-Dub)!!!!!!!

I like Curry as a college player, but he is not Monta Ellis (not even close). He is not Gilbert Arenas. He is not Louis Williams. He may not even be Jerryd Bayless! He is somewhere between Ben Gordon and Juan Dixon--Eddie House, maybe?--because he's undersized and not very athletic--and you can't have both of those strikes against you if you want to be successful in the NBA.

He can score, make the VERY OBVIOUS pass, and gamble for steals. Fine. What can he do at an NBA level that justifies him starting for an NBA team? Don't worry...I'll wait.
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Curry is athletic. He's just not freakish athletic. Have you seen him play? The guy is super quick. He might not have a 40 vertical, but he has good quickness and speed. As far as being undersized. If your talking two guard, yes!. But he's certainly not under sized if he can play the pt.
 
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