Kingster
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I could buy into those chances - a 60% chance of either getting Rubio at 4 or trading up, but there is one very important thing to consider: Petrie Never Trades Up in the Draft!
So who can we trade this freaking pick for?
- Thread starter BMiller52
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I could buy into those chances - a 60% chance of either getting Rubio at 4 or trading up, but there is one very important thing to consider: Petrie Never Trades Up in the Draft!
Kings Faithful
Starter
Hollinger on ESPN.com has an article talking about possible and mabye even likely draft day trades. One involves the Thunder picking Rubio at #3 then trading him to us for #4 AND Spencer Hawes or Jason Thompson...
I have to say that is pretty ridiculous. If our FO is even CONSIDERING this I will stop being a Kings fan. I like Rubio but not enough to give up one of our bigs.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playo...?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-090520
I have to say that is pretty ridiculous. If our FO is even CONSIDERING this I will stop being a Kings fan. I like Rubio but not enough to give up one of our bigs.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playo...?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-090520
nbrans
All-Star
Yeah, that's pretty absurd. I think it's needlessly risky to trade Thompson alone for #2 or #3, let alone also throwing in the #4.
NewArena
All-Star
Im not that excited or confident in Rubio do all of that for his services. He hasnt impressed me THAT much. Hollinger is crazy if thinks that even has a little bit of a chance.
To everyone hoping and wishing for a draft day trade? Forget it...we know how petrie is on draft day. He makes NO moves at all.
To everyone hoping and wishing for a draft day trade? Forget it...we know how petrie is on draft day. He makes NO moves at all.
ParniValjak
All-Star
Because they are both white euros?!
Please! Its uneducated racist comments like these that give me the ****s. The 2 situations could not be any different. Rubio has played professionally since the age of 15. He has been a key cog for his team in the last 2 years at least as the starting PG. A face of the team. He made the national team (a world championship squad) at the age of 16. FFS can people judge the kid for his talent and not for his race or origin. Rubio has been the face of DKV for 3 years now and their best player for the past 1-2 years. He has carried that team to the euroleague and you compare him to Darko who wasn't even a starter for his team?! Please. REALITY CHECK!
MizzouKing
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AHHhhh....thanks for the clarification. They say every village needs an idiot, and I'm just happy to have a home.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Yeh Rubio is going to be at worst a very good pt guard. How many guys with his court vision and decision making fail in the league? He would have really added life to the kings. We need a creator so bad.
Because they are both white euros?!
Please! Its uneducated racist comments like these that give me the ****s. The 2 situations could not be any different. Rubio has played professionally since the age of 15. He has been a key cog for his team in the last 2 years at least as the starting PG. A face of the team. He made the national team (a world championship squad) at the age of 16. FFS can people judge the kid for his talent and not for his race or origin. Rubio has been the face of DKV for 3 years now and their best player for the past 1-2 years. He has carried that team to the euroleague and you compare him to Darko who wasn't even a starter for his team?! Please. REALITY CHECK!
You are the only person bringing race into it. And it stops now.
Kings Faithful
Starter
So if aquiring Rubio through the draft or a trade becomes out of the question...how about a trade with Charlotte for Gerald Wallace... something like...
Gerald Wallace
#12 pick
for
#4 pick
Kenny Thomas
The reason they do it is to erase Wallaces contract which runs for the next 5 years. We give them an expiring in Kenny Thomas so we don't lose any money THIS year for the FA but they also save a bunch of money they can use in 2010. Also the #4 gives them a chance at James Harden since they could use a SG. Mabye we can even find a way to pry Raymond Felton away from them who is on a qualifying offer this offseason by adding Nocioni or our #23, because they have DJ Augustine who showed alot of promise. We could then use their #12 for a PG in the draft whether we get Felton or Not. So our possible roster could look like
Raymond Felton/#12 pick/ Beno Udrih (hopefully we can deal him)/Bobby Jackson
Kevin Martin/Francisco Garcia/Bobby Jackson
Gerald Wallace/ Francisco Garcia/ Donte Greene
Jason Thompson/ (FA, #23, or Ike Diogu)
Spencer Hawes/ (FA or #23)
Anyone else dig that idea?
Gerald Wallace
#12 pick
for
#4 pick
Kenny Thomas
The reason they do it is to erase Wallaces contract which runs for the next 5 years. We give them an expiring in Kenny Thomas so we don't lose any money THIS year for the FA but they also save a bunch of money they can use in 2010. Also the #4 gives them a chance at James Harden since they could use a SG. Mabye we can even find a way to pry Raymond Felton away from them who is on a qualifying offer this offseason by adding Nocioni or our #23, because they have DJ Augustine who showed alot of promise. We could then use their #12 for a PG in the draft whether we get Felton or Not. So our possible roster could look like
Raymond Felton/#12 pick/ Beno Udrih (hopefully we can deal him)/Bobby Jackson
Kevin Martin/Francisco Garcia/Bobby Jackson
Gerald Wallace/ Francisco Garcia/ Donte Greene
Jason Thompson/ (FA, #23, or Ike Diogu)
Spencer Hawes/ (FA or #23)
Anyone else dig that idea?
exactly what i was thinking he is a crazy athlete, good size but can he run a team???
nbrans
All-Star
Replace KT with Nocioni and I think that's a pretty solid idea. KT is separately useful as an expiring.
Kings Faithful
Starter
Yeah, any combination would really be fair in my mind. The main idea is Wallace + #12 for #4.
Showtime
Starter
No, because both were young foreign prodigies that the NBA teams drooled over because of the hype surrounding their potential when they were unproven in the NBA. Rubio just turned 18. Darko was 17 playing pro ball and was just turning 18 when he was drafted by Detroit. He was hyped as the "do it all" forward who had handles, range on his shot, good footwork, and going to be a star. He turned out to be a complete dud because his potential was overblown and he couldn't adjust to the NBA.
I believe Darko started playing pro ball at 15 and moved away from home to do so.
Once again, you are injecting something out of nowhere.
Rubio has been the face of DKV for 3 years now and their best player for the past 1-2 years. He has carried that team to the euroleague and you compare him to Darko who wasn't even a starter for his team?! Please. REALITY CHECK!
I suggest you learn about the consensus perception of him coming into the league at 17/18 years old. He was a good player with a ton of potential, taken very high in the draft, only to never come through with that potential and never made the transition to the NBA game.
Rubio may end up a good PG. But right now, based upon watching him play in international play, he's an ok player who hasn't proven anything in the NBA. Being good overseas means jack if that transition isn't made to the NBA, and to me, a lot is being made of his potential and for a guy his age who hasn't played 1 second of NBA ball, that worries me. I just don't get why Kings fans are drinking the RR koolaid.
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Showtime
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How long will that excuse that Brown ruined him last? Brown didn't take away his jumper, his supposed good post game and footwork, etc. This guy was hyped as the next Dirk (with the possibility of being better), and it was all based upon over hyped potential. He's had ample opportunity to prove himself.
Showtime
Starter
True, but the college game is closer to the NBA climate than international ball, both in style and talent level. That's why you see more successful college players than international players, and it's why there isn't a good success rate for US players overseas. And it's harder for a 17/18 year old as well, so he has a lot going against him. I'm not saying he will be a bust, just that the hype surrounding him from Kings fans on this forum is unwarranted IMO.
Also, unlike college players, if RR doesn't want to go to the team with the worst record, he has the ability to decline and then stay where he's at while the Kings sit on his rights, probably forced to trade them.
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Aenadin
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his work ethic probably were talking bout two different people here well we will just see right
RKid
Bench
I was reading the Hollinger piece on how the Kings could land Rubio and I just thought of the one team who I think can steal Rubio from the Kings, if the kings were to make a play for Ricky (which the should)
The Trail Blazers. Portland has the assets the dough and the need to make it worth the while of either the Grizz or OKC.
Anybody else think the Blazers will get involved?
The Trail Blazers. Portland has the assets the dough and the need to make it worth the while of either the Grizz or OKC.
Anybody else think the Blazers will get involved?
Aenadin
Starter
i hope not! they already got bayless before we even got the chance to get him 
i dont know how this would work but.. how about a three way trade?
Sacramento Trades
Nocioni (to clippers)
Udrih (to clippers)
31st pick(to Clippers
# 4 to memphis
Clippers trade:
Zach randolph (to Memphis)
Memphis trades
Darko to Sac
Jaric to sac
# 2 pick to sac
Sacs Line up
rubio/jaric
martin/garcia
green/casspi
JT/Diogu
Hawes/Milicic
Clippers line up
Davis/Udrih
Gordon/Collins/Ricky DAvis
Thorton/nocioni
Blake Griffin/De andre
Kaman/Camby
Memphis line up
Conley/(jennings assuming they pick him)
Oj Mayo/Buckner
Gay/(who ever else they will draft)
Randolph/warrick/arthur
Gasol
dont you think its fair?
Sac gets their choice of point guard. unloads the hefty contract of udrih and nocioni gaining a back up big man in darko, Clippers unload randolph to move some playing time for griffin and gets a back up point incase Baron davis gets injured OR they can trade him back for GSW for pick they also get a quality guy in nocioni and we all know how scrappy he gets. while memphis gets that PF position filled in by randolph and our 4th pick giving them the option to trade down for a point guard or draft jennings straight up..
what do you guys think?
i dont know how this would work but.. how about a three way trade?
Sacramento Trades
Nocioni (to clippers)
Udrih (to clippers)
31st pick(to Clippers
# 4 to memphis
Clippers trade:
Zach randolph (to Memphis)
Memphis trades
Darko to Sac
Jaric to sac
# 2 pick to sac
Sacs Line up
rubio/jaric
martin/garcia
green/casspi
JT/Diogu
Hawes/Milicic
Clippers line up
Davis/Udrih
Gordon/Collins/Ricky DAvis
Thorton/nocioni
Blake Griffin/De andre
Kaman/Camby
Memphis line up
Conley/(jennings assuming they pick him)
Oj Mayo/Buckner
Gay/(who ever else they will draft)
Randolph/warrick/arthur
Gasol
dont you think its fair?
Sac gets their choice of point guard. unloads the hefty contract of udrih and nocioni gaining a back up big man in darko, Clippers unload randolph to move some playing time for griffin and gets a back up point incase Baron davis gets injured OR they can trade him back for GSW for pick they also get a quality guy in nocioni and we all know how scrappy he gets. while memphis gets that PF position filled in by randolph and our 4th pick giving them the option to trade down for a point guard or draft jennings straight up..
what do you guys think?
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bigbadred00
Starter
I like it for the Kings but I don't think any team in the league wants any part of Zach Randolph's horrible contract. He's terrible as well. Yes he can put up 20/10 but he does it in like the least efficient way possible.
Aenadin
Starter
well they can also use that 4th pick to draft jordan hill. but with all the rubio not wanting memphis (i hope its true i hiope its true!) and wants sac gives them an opportunity to trade down while we trade up.. if it takes giving them also the 31st pick why not..
im sure the clippers wont mind getting rid of randolph.
i just hope this trade is feasible and logical not farfetched..
im sure the clippers wont mind getting rid of randolph.
i just hope this trade is feasible and logical not farfetched..
