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[shaka zulu]

The game is about offense right now It's too late to go Defense. Look at the league now, The clippers were one of the top Defensive Teams in the league, so were the spurs but both of these teams were Defeated by the new offense Teams. The suns and mavericks are proving the defensive Trend wrong right now by out scoring out playing the defensive trend offensively.



Whiz must have been in the maloofs ear about wanting the job and telling them that you can make mike bibby play defense even know he doesn't have the athletic ability to do the job. This move to seems real bizarre and I think the team is going backwards, How many college coaches have been successful making the transition from college to the pros. Whiz is a college WNBA coach with no exeprience,no track record other than the WNBA, What is up with petrie.

 

[El_Filibusterismo]

This topic has finally forced me into registering. If true, this decision is simply sickening.

I do not have a problem with him being a WNBA coach. Although, even Monarchs fans thought that the the team won the championship in spite of the fact that they had little or no help from Whiz. The team won because of pure talent, not superior coaching ability.

My biggest problem is that Coach Whiz has NO NBA experience, and BARELY any coaching experience. DIV-1 AA? A joke. He has not played or coached anywhere near the NBA level, and he is expected to take the reigns on a group of talented NBA vets? Please.

All he is a Maloof a$$-kisser, and Napear said it himself last night "whiz is the leading candidate only because he knows how to sell himself to the maloofs".

To reflect my disgust, I have changed Wikipedia accordingly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Whisenant

 

[Nico]

i guess the next great move the maloof will do is to not resign bonzi wells

**** it !

 

[atxrocker]

this is a bad move and it reeks. i hope everything works out. zero nba experience is not what we need from a coach right now

 

[G_M]

That means.............GULP....................Coach "T" is now an assistant??????

 

[DocHolliday]

Well they've only interviewed 2 guys at this point. It's either Musselman or Elie. They said that even though they know Whisenant they would have him go through an interview anyway. He hasn't been interviewed yet, so I think that rules him out. Unless they decide to just go with him without an interview.

I'm hoping for Elie!!

 

[Ryle]

That means.............GULP....................Coach "T" is now an assistant??????

It just gets worse and worse. If there is a guy who has his head more up the Maloofs *** then coach T I don't know who it is. The guy is nothing but the Maloofs buttboy and that's how he has kept a job.

 

[SLAB]

Ron Artest- The Warrior Queen

Thats...

Ron Artest- The "Warier" Queen

Gotta have the right spelling for Ron Ron.

And Im not liking the move...This doesn't make a splash...This doesnt make us better...This doesn't do anything positive for us.

I'll still hold out hope that it's somehow Elie.

 

[Sirius]

There might be hope still for Elie and Musselman. Whis has apparently been dealing with a lot of various issues. His mother is very ill, his son just got married, he had to go to the white house last week, he's had to worry about the Monarchs, and now this? I'm starting to have doubts he'd even want the enormous responsibility of the King's coaching position, he's juggling a lot already. He has been quoted as saying that he can't think about the Kings job right now and that he has a job he really likes. Come on Maloofs...give it to someone who really wants the job.

 

[vj9999]

Thats...

Ron Artest- The "Warier" Queen

Gotta have the right spelling for Ron Ron.

Since you are being picky, I think Queen is spelled Kween.

 

[Kings Fan]

It's just a guess...

If the Maloofs hire Whiz, Petrie may be shaking his head and tender his resignation if the following season is not a successful one. The GMs are hired to do their jobs, not hovered by their over-zealous owners. Look where the Cowboys (Jerry Jones picking Quincy Carter) and the Raiders (Al Davis picking bad picks after bad picks) have been in recent years. If the Maloofs are going to be that kind of owner, we may lose the one sure thing we have...PETRIE.

 

[Wuster]

Yikes.... I was hoping this was not the choice. From Adelman to Whisenant, God save the Kings. Good looking out VF.

Unbelievable.

The only question remaining for me is - What is Petrie's fate now?

 

[Warhawk]

While I may not think Whiz would be my first choice (and assuming VF21 is right, because she usually is ).....

1. Petrie knows basketball and I am sure is very familiar with Whiz. The Maloofs obviously feel very comfortable with him and their relationship as owners/coach.

2. The guy can coach. Period. At every level he's been at, he's won.

3. Ron-Ron gave him some glowing remarks the other day while attending a game. He didn't seem to have a problem with Whiz.

4. I, for one, want to see what kind of a job he can do before I start bashing him. The guy is a proven winner and deserves our support until he proves otherwise.

5. The Maloofs want to win. Period. They would not do this if they didn't seriously think that he gave them a shot at winning the title.

6. At some point every new coach in the league hadn't been an NBA coach before. Not having NBA experience is not necessarily a "deal-breaker" for me. Not advisable in my book, but not a "deal-breaker" either. Obviously the Maloofs and Petrie feel similarly.

I was wrong about Ron-Ron coming here. I am going to learn from that mistake and give whoever gets chosen a pass on whatever "negatives" are attached and see how he does.

Go Kings and Coach Whiz!

Better than Go Whiz on the Coach, Kings!

 

[DocHolliday]

I know you aren't wrong wtih this kind of info usually VF21, but I'm hoping you are this time. I want Elie.

In response to some asking about Petrie's status. The Maloofs have said once the coach is hired they step back and let Geoff and the coach do their jobs. The Maloofs have also said the whole Maloof family and GEOFF agree on all decisions. That's how they have always done it, and how they will continue to do it. That means Geoff agreed with letting go of Rick, and the hiring of Whis if he is in fact the new coach.

 

[Venom]

If I was a player, I would be pretty pissed right now. You just fired one of the most successful coaches in the game in order to bring in your buddy, the girl's coach. Rick was a great player's coach as well, and the guys had good relationships with his assistants. They had to be assuming they were going to get Elie, or maybe if the process dragged out a little longer, Iavaroni. Elie has a very solid reputation throughout the league, and all feel that he is poised for great things. He carries instant credibility in any locker room considering his long journey to the NBA and his three championship rings. I would have been looking forward to playing for a guy like Elie. I'd be pretty upset about the Whizinator.

 

[Kings Fan]

Okay...both coach Whiz and potential coach Elie supposedly preach defense...so that's a wash there.

But, Elie has played the NBA game:

1) He knows what it means to play above the rim (not so in the WNBA). Understanding PACE and TEMPO of the NBA game is vital.

2) He knows what money and contract can do to players...and presumably what is required to motivate NBA players (last time I checked the WNBA players are making the minimum). Understanding EGOS and MOTIVATION of the NBA game is crucial.

3) He's won 3 championship as a player...as a clutch player during crunch time (something the Kings mightily lack and struggle). Understanding MENTAL TOUGHNESS in the NBA game is of paramount importance.

If the decision is truly Maloofs-Petrie split roughly 50/50, I would hope Petrie would realize that these above 3 intangibles are not what Whiz have...but only elements and ingredients that Elie can bring.

 

[VF21]

I know you aren't wrong wtih this kind of info usually VF21, but I'm hoping you are this time. I want Elie.

In response to some asking about Petrie's status. The Maloofs have said once the coach is hired they step back and let Geoff and the coach do their jobs. The Maloofs have also said the whole Maloof family and GEOFF agree on all decisions. That's how they have always done it, and how they will continue to do it. That means Geoff agreed with letting go of Rick, and the hiring of Whis if he is in fact the new coach.

I would LOVE to be wrong this time, Doc. I won't mind egg on my face, eating crow, etc. if something happens and they change their minds.

As far as the Maloofs saying the whole Maloof family and Geoff AGREE on all decisions, I'm thinking that just might be a bit of a stretch. If the entire Maloof family wants something over Petrie's objections, they'll do it. Petrie can either agree - after making his case - or quit. And he has millions of reasons NOT to walk away over one lost vote.

Yes, they may ultimately all "agree" but the Maloofs are still the bosses. Once the decision is clear, Petrie (as an employee) either agrees with it or he walks. You don't continue to fight the battle after the war is lost.

 

[JB_kings]

While I may not think Whiz would be my first choice (and assuming VF21 is right, because she usually is ).....

1. Petrie knows basketball and I am sure is very familiar with Whiz. The Maloofs obviously feel very comfortable with him and their relationship as owners/coach.

2. The guy can coach. Period. At every level he's been at, he's won.

3. Ron-Ron gave him some glowing remarks the other day while attending a game. He didn't seem to have a problem with Whiz.

4. I, for one, want to see what kind of a job he can do before I start bashing him. The guy is a proven winner and deserves our support until he proves otherwise.

5. The Maloofs want to win. Period. They would not do this if they didn't seriously think that he gave them a shot at winning the title.

6. At some point every new coach in the league hadn't been an NBA coach before. Not having NBA experience is not necessarily a "deal-breaker" for me. Not advisable in my book, but not a "deal-breaker" either. Obviously the Maloofs and Petrie feel similarly.

I was wrong about Ron-Ron coming here. I am going to learn from that mistake and give whoever gets chosen a pass on whatever "negatives" are attached and see how he does.

Go Kings and Coach Whiz!

Better than Go Whiz on the Coach, Kings!

Add this:

#7 Has a total of 3 pro games experience with a 24 second shot clock.

I understand the attributes Whiz has. He just has no NBA experience. And it really is a big deal. It's exactly like hiring a college coach. They all have to learn on the job. It takes a few years to adjust and most don't cut it at all. There's nothing special about this guy that will overcome that needed experience. I would feel better about it if he had a few years on an NBA bench. But he doesn't. Everything he will be doing next year, he'll be doing for the first time. Learning how to schedule practice and shoot around on a 5 game/7day road trip. How to handle players who have emore money than he does and aren't women with a happy-to-be-here attitude.
A few years at least.

 

[wow22]

It's just a guess...

If the Maloofs hire Whiz, Petrie may be shaking his head and tender his resignation if the following season is not a successful one. The GMs are hired to do their jobs, not hovered by their over-zealous owners. Look where the Cowboys (Jerry Jones picking Quincy Carter) and the Raiders (Al Davis picking bad picks after bad picks) have been in recent years. If the Maloofs are going to be that kind of owner, we may lose the one sure thing we have...PETRIE.

Thats what happened with him in Portland

 

[Padrino]

Okay...both coach Whiz and potential coach Elie supposedly preach defense...so that's a wash there.

But, Elie has played the NBA game:

1) He knows what it means to play above the rim (not so in the WNBA). Understanding PACE and TEMPO of the NBA game is vital.

2) He knows what money and contract can do to players...and presumably what is required to motivate NBA players (last time I checked the WNBA players are making the minimum). Understanding EGOS and MOTIVATION of the NBA game is crucial.

3) He's won 3 championship as a player...as a clutch player during crunch time (something the Kings mightily lack and struggle). Understanding MENTAL TOUGHNESS in the NBA game is of paramount importance.

If the decision is truly Maloofs-Petrie split roughly 50/50, I would hope Petrie would realize that these above 3 intangibles are not what Whiz have...but only elements and ingredients that Elie can bring.

i'm certain that petrie does know this, but it ultimately is not his decision. it's not 50/50. the maloofs have talked in the media about letting geoff be a key decision maker in this process, but that's all posturing and bull****. they're going over his head on this one. that is very clear. geoff never acts hastily, and this is a hasty decision, especially considering that "interviews" just started late this week. the maloofs clearly wanted whisenant from minute one, and these "interviews" were, really, just a smoke screen to cover up the fact that they had their guy picked from the start. its supposed to reassure us fans that the right decision is being made, because the maloofs and geoff petrie have been "thorough." i feel deceived, misled, and annoyed with the way the maloofs approached this entire situation. if whisenant works out...great. but i've said before, there is no reason to believe he will succeed. he's been a winner everywhere he's been, but who gives a ****? he hasn't really been anywhere. i've been a winner everywhere i've coached. all the youth teams i've coached over the last few summers have won. am i qualified to coach the kings? whisenant has no nba experience, and for a veteran team trying to rise again to nba elite status, that is just not acceptable.

 

[Kings Fan]

From everything I am hearing on the radio and on this forum, I think Sacramentans are going to burn down the city if Whiz is hired...

The Sacramento Bee headlines "The Capital City in Inferno..." Will Arnold declare a state of emergency? The levee problems are only the beginning...

 

[kupman]

While I may not think Whiz would be my first choice (and assuming VF21 is right, because she usually is ).....

1. Petrie knows basketball and I am sure is very familiar with Whiz. The Maloofs obviously feel very comfortable with him and their relationship as owners/coach.

2. The guy can coach. Period. At every level he's been at, he's won.

3. Ron-Ron gave him some glowing remarks the other day while attending a game. He didn't seem to have a problem with Whiz.

4. I, for one, want to see what kind of a job he can do before I start bashing him. The guy is a proven winner and deserves our support until he proves otherwise.

5. The Maloofs want to win. Period. They would not do this if they didn't seriously think that he gave them a shot at winning the title.

6. At some point every new coach in the league hadn't been an NBA coach before. Not having NBA experience is not necessarily a "deal-breaker" for me. Not advisable in my book, but not a "deal-breaker" either. Obviously the Maloofs and Petrie feel similarly.

I was wrong about Ron-Ron coming here. I am going to learn from that mistake and give whoever gets chosen a pass on whatever "negatives" are attached and see how he does.

Go Kings and Coach Whiz!

Better than Go Whiz on the Coach, Kings!

Thank you for taking the time to write this post. I agree with you completely and it saves me the time of writing something similair. I support the Maloofs and Petrie and trust they will make the best decision for the Kings.

 

[Mad Iron]

This is hilarious. We get all these tough, hard-nosed players and we're hiring a WNBA coach. What are the Maloofs thinking? Now, if we still had Peja on the team, I could understand this a little better. With his experience, Whiz would be the perfect coach for Peja....

 

[love_them_kings]

Wow. Glad I had a heads up on this - I will have to screen all the phone calls of my relatives who are Lakers fans. The "Queens" taunting will be much less obnoxious over the answering machine.

I'm disappointed in this move. I don't follow the Monarchs very closely, but I feel bad for the message that this sends to their players and loyal fans.

I have trouble believing that this is a good move....

but I hope that if this is right (which unfornately it probably is, coming from VF) I hope he proves me wrong.

 

[Wuster]

i'm certain that petrie does know this, but it ultimately is not his decision. it's not 50/50. the maloofs have talked in the media about letting geoff be a key decision maker in this process, but that's all posturing and bull****. they're going over his head on this one. that is very clear. geoff never acts hastily, and this is a hasty decision, especially considering that "interviews" just started late this week. the maloofs clearly wanted whisenant from minute one, and these "interviews" were, really, just a smoke screen to cover up the fact that they had their guy picked from the start. its supposed to reassure us fans that the right decision is being made, because the maloofs and geoff petrie have been "thorough." i feel deceived, misled, and annoyed with the way the maloofs approached this entire situation. if whisenant works out...great. but i've said before, there is no reason to believe he will succeed. he's been a winner everywhere he's been, but who gives a ****? he hasn't really been anywhere. i've been a winner everywhere i've coached. all the youth teams i've coached over the last few summers have won. am i qualified to coach the kings? whisenant has no nba experience, and for a veteran team trying to rise again to nba elite status, that is just not acceptable.

Padrino speaks exactly what Wuster is thinking.

 

[DWalkfan22]

Wow... Please let VF's source be wrong just this one time! The Whiz can't leave us, we have a great chance to repeat as champs, and now the Maloofs come with this... I don't like it AT ALL.

 

[shaka zulu]

While I may not think Whiz would be my first choice (and assuming VF21 is right, because she usually is ).....

1. Petrie knows basketball and I am sure is very familiar with Whiz. The Maloofs obviously feel very comfortable with him and their relationship as owners/coach.

2. The guy can coach. Period. At every level he's been at, he's won.

3. Ron-Ron gave him some glowing remarks the other day while attending a game. He didn't seem to have a problem with Whiz.

4. I, for one, want to see what kind of a job he can do before I start bashing him. The guy is a proven winner and deserves our support until he proves otherwise.

5. The Maloofs want to win. Period. They would not do this if they didn't seriously think that he gave them a shot at winning the title.

6. At some point every new coach in the league hadn't been an NBA coach before. Not having NBA experience is not necessarily a "deal-breaker" for me. Not advisable in my book, but not a "deal-breaker" either. Obviously the Maloofs and Petrie feel similarly.

I was wrong about Ron-Ron coming here. I am going to learn from that mistake and give whoever gets chosen a pass on whatever "negatives" are attached and see how he does.

Go Kings and Coach Whiz!

Better than Go Whiz on the Coach, Kings!

John Whisenhart, NBA Coaching Qualifications:

Late 60's -- Assistant coach Coffeyville Community College
Early 70's -- Head Coach Arizona Western (Yuma) Div I-AA?, 4 seasons, 97-30
Mid-70's -- Assistant coach Universtity of New Mexico
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Left coaching for a couple decades
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Early 90's -- Head coach of his son's AAU team (!) goes 176-16
Late 90's -- Head coach of the New Mexico Storm of the defunct 2 year old IBL, goes 51-35
2003-06 -- Head coach of WNBA Monarchs
2003 -- 12-4
2004 -- 18-16
2005 -- 25-9 (+ won title)
2006 -- 2-1

 

[tyrant]

kings have just convinced the whole world that we are no longer the "queens". we will get laughed at hiring our WNBA coach.

 

[Rockmeister]

Okay, late night followers. Here you go:

From what I've heard, the next coach of the Sacramento Kings will be

...

John Whisenant.

I've also heard that the official announcement won't be made until after the holiday weekend.

How do you know? I heard that Whisenant has yet to be interview.

 

[Warhawk]

John Whisenhart, NBA Coaching Qualifications:

Late 60's -- Assistant coach Coffeyville Community College
Early 70's -- Head Coach Arizona Western (Yuma) Div I-AA?, 4 seasons, 97-30
Mid-70's -- Assistant coach Universtity of New Mexico
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Left coaching for a couple decades
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Early 90's -- Head coach of his son's AAU team (!) goes 176-16
Late 90's -- Head coach of the New Mexico Storm of the defunct 2 year old IBL, goes 51-35
2003-06 -- Head coach of WNBA Monarchs
2003 -- 12-4
2004 -- 18-16
2005 -- 25-9 (+ won title)
2006 -- 2-1

Yeah, I've seen this several times. It doesn't change anything I wrote, does it?

Like someone said above - sometimes coaches "just fit". This may be one of those times. Or it may not. Impossible to say until it is tried.

I am not saying he is my first choice, but if he is chosen, just give the guy a chance to show what he can do, will ya? Let's not light those torches yet....