Sac/mem

[kings20993]

ARTEST & K-9

FOR

PAUL GASOL

then when we get healthy our starting lineup would be

bibby
martin
slamons
gasol
miller

all star line up

 

[Dime Dropper]

ARTEST & K-9

FOR

PAUL GASOL

then when we get healthy our starting lineup would be

bibby
martin
slamons
gasol
miller

all star line up

No, thanks. Not that we'd actually have that option. Memphis would never trade Pau Gasol for Artest (headcase) and such a crap contract (I'm being nice by not mentioning his actual game).

And that team is still nowhere near contending for a title. There isn't one realistic trade that is going to get us back into contention soon.

I'm not a fan of these trade proposals attempting to make us good now, and like this one, the majority seem to be crazily unrealistic.

 

[kings20993]

Memphis is 9-22, Gasol is averging 17points and 8 reabounds to artest 19 and 6 plus he is still one of the best defenders in the leage,

 

[CruzDude]

Trade makes sense, I think. Is Gasol the force he was year or so ago?? Seems he has fallen off this year and had been injured quite a bit in past. But he is career 50% shooter, 85% FT (much better than RonRon) and 8.6 rebs. Otherwise similar stats all around. RonRon is better in-your-face defender but Gasol can alter many more shots.

Is Gasol a 4 or a 3?

 

[Dime Dropper]

Memphis is 9-22, Gasol is averging 17points and 8 reabounds to artest 19 and 6 plus he is still one of the best defenders in the leage,

He is also crazy and likely to cause problems to a young, talented team. He'd also take minutes away from their budding star, Gay. I don't think they have any need for Ron, or for this trade. They are more than likely looking to go young rather than patch-it-up job that some of our fans seem to be going for.

Trade makes sense, I think. Is Gasol the force he was year or so ago?? Seems he has fallen off this year and had been injured quite a bit in past. But he is career 50% shooter, 85% FT (much better than RonRon) and 8.6 rebs. Otherwise similar stats all around. RonRon is better in-your-face defender but Gasol can alter many more shots.

Is Gasol a 4 or a 3?

It might make sense for us if all the pieces on our team fitted except for Ron. But this team is going nowhere in a hurry. Pau is a good player, one I really like, but Mem would never do this trade, and we shouldn't either. We need young guys/picks/expirings, at least IMO.

 

[Glenn]

I thought Gasol wanted out of Memphis and that this was the reason in the fall off of his play. Never heard he was crazy. What do you mean?

I also don't know why we wouldn't want a power forward who has been an all star. He shoots 50% on a bad year for him. He's only 27. At some point you need to keep some players and quit getting younger and younger. Big guys mature later.

 

[Gary]

If I were Memphis I would throw that trade idea back in the face of Petrie.

Gasol's stats are down this year because he isn't happy. It's not because he's playing hurt, or playing poorly after a surgery. Last year when he came back he was the normal "Gasol" averaging 20/10/2/2. So we give them a headcase, and a horrible contract in KT for a legitimate all-star level PF/C???

But I would have said the same thing re: Webber for Richmond as well back in the day. Stranger things have happened, but the GM of the Griz would literally have to be smoking crack to take this deal.

 

[Gary]

It might make sense for us if all the pieces on our team fitted except for Ron. But this team is going nowhere in a hurry. Pau is a good player, one I really like, but Mem would never do this trade, and we shouldn't either. We need young guys/picks/expirings, at least IMO.

The team wouldn't be going "nowhere" if we had Gasol while only giving up Artest, and KT.

Bibby, Martin, Salmons, Gasol, Miller is a damn good starting lineup. Beno, Garcia off the bench isn't so bad either.

 

[RunNGun]

Memphis would need something else to help make it happen. 1st round pick from the Kings (top 5 protected) even...

 

[Gary]

Memphis would need something else to help make it happen. 1st round pick from the Kings (top 5 protected) even...

It would take a 3rd team that needs a guy like Bibby, or Artest. Memphis doesn't need either one. A contending team in the east might do it to get Bibby/Artest, and trade Mem a pick/young player. The Kings would also have to probably give up a 1st rounder.

 

[Dime Dropper]

I thought Gasol wanted out of Memphis and that this was the reason in the fall off of his play. Never heard he was crazy. What do you mean?

I also don't know why we wouldn't want a power forward who has been an all star. He shoots 50% on a bad year for him. He's only 27. At some point you need to keep some players and quit getting younger and younger. Big guys mature later.

I was talking about Artest being a liability, not Gasol. Gasol certainly isn't crazy and is a fine player, my main point is that Memphis would never do this deal. Why would they? There is nothing in it for them, it is a step backwards.

I also think a team has to actually go young before it says "This young thing ain't workin.'" Alot of people seem to feel that going young won't benefit us and that we're better off chugging along. I'm not saying anyone's wrong, because at this point it is down to personal preference, I just don't agree with that mindset. All of the elite teams developed young talent, which we have yet to do. We don't have a superstar.

If I were Memphis I would throw that trade idea back in the face of Petrie.

Exactly my point.

The team wouldn't be going "nowhere" if we had Gasol while only giving up Artest, and KT.

Bibby, Martin, Salmons, Gasol, Miller is a damn good starting lineup. Beno, Garcia off the bench isn't so bad either.

You may be right, who knows. But, personally, I don't think that team would contend for a title. We would be a good team but nothing more IMO. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just my opinion. I don't think that lineup could hang with the Spurs, Suns, Celts and Mavs of the NBA.

 

[datamanwes]

3 teams

Same deal except the third team is Mil, And Memphis gets Redd.Mil gets Artest and Kenny Thomas,Sacramento gets Gasol
The trade works salary cap wise

 

[Superman]

Same deal except the third team is Mil, And Memphis gets Redd.Mil gets Artest and Kenny Thomas,Sacramento gets Gasol
The trade works salary cap wise

Okay, so we go from Memphis taking Artest and KT for Gasol and turn that into Milwaukee taking the same crazy combination, but this time for Michael Redd?

Ain't hap'nin. It was mentioned in another thread, but the best bet for shedding KT's contract is packaging him with Brad Miller, maybe Mike Bibby, not Artest. It would be hard enough to get a not-elite team to take Artest because of his reputation; adding in a crap contract doesn't exactly sweeten the deal. Especially not for the Bucks best player.

I continue to be of the opinion that the best way(s) to get rid of Artest are, in this order: 1) take advantage of Isiah Thomas before he gets booted in New York, and get a young player with potential and a pick, or 2) send him to the Lakers for Kwame Brown, which is less likely now that Chris Mihm is hurt, again.

 

[datamanwes]

I'll defend my post. On other message boards throughout the entire NBA everyone is talking thatr MIl is shoping Redd. So obvioulsy they do not think he isthere best player. Memphis is shopping Gasol and the Kings are shopping Artest and Thomas. Tell me crazier things have not happened