Psst Peja?

[Brewer16]

Besides last night hes been fine since Christie left.

 

[love_them_kings]

The difference here is tha Pedja does not force the issue and therefore gives the team the chance to win.
Other Kings players will take their shots no matter what. (even Iverson would envy them)

(For better explanation see stats against NOH that we lost couple weeks ago)

I agree, except that you can't just stop shooting completely. In the 2nd quarter last night none of the Kings (except Brad Miller) was shooting well. I think Pedja had 4, Webber had 4, Bibby had 4.... If all of them had just decided their shots just were "off" and had stopped trying to shoot, this game would have been a disaster. And, I have seen plenty of games where Pedja shoots poorly until 4th quarter or OT, and then brings on the 3s. I think he should continue to shoot, even on a bad night. However, I'm not overly worried about last night. I think it is a one time thing, not something we are going to see on a regular basis.

 

[Heuge]

Well, we won last night but lost in New Orleans.

NO was about a Hornet team who played a really good game. IMO, they did more to win that game then we did to lose.

 

[piksi]

NO was about a Hornet team who played a really good game. IMO, they did more to win that game then we did to lose.

Sure and Portland was really bad last night

We lost in NO besause Bibby and Webber were 6/22 each and did not defend anyone. Simple as that.

 

[Heuge]

Sure and Portland was really bad last night

We lost in NO besause Bibby and Webber were 6/22 each and did not defend anyone. Simple as that.

Watch the friggin games. NO was hitting their shots. Bibby was not being lit up that game (If anything it was Christie and Evans being lit up). Also, others not getting to their spots quick enough on their rotations, as well. But to NO credit they were hitting difficult shots.


Also, I said nothing about Portland.

 

[keflanag]

Sure and Portland was really bad last night

We lost in NO besause Bibby and Webber were 6/22 each and did not defend anyone. Simple as that.

You're just mad because that game messed up your "we're undefeated when Pedja leads in scoring stat".

 

[keflanag]

Sure and Portland was really bad last night

We lost in NO besause Bibby and Webber were 6/22 each and did not defend anyone. Simple as that.

We lost that game because Baron Davis had an incredible game, and our two most CLUTCH shooters this year, had an off game in their 4th game in 5 nights. Not to mention Bibby was a little tired from carrying the team on his back the previous 2 games.

 

[GoGoGadget]

We lost in NO besause Bibby and Webber were 6/22 each and did not defend anyone. Simple as that.

The only reason that you would even choose to single out this particular stat is because of a rather obvious bias against Webber and Bibby.

A bias that, frankly, undermines many of the points that you may be trying to make.

 

[Heuge]

We lost that game because Baron Davis had an incredible game, and our two most CLUTCH shooters this year, had an off game in their 4th game in 5 nights. Not to mention Bibby was a little tired from carrying the team on his back the previous 2 games.

That is right on target.

 

[Vlad]

Not to mention Bibby was a little tired from carrying the team on his back the previous 2 games.

He was so tired that he only managed to hoist up 20 shots.

 

[Heuge]

He was so tired that he only managed to hoist up 20 shots.

Well to miss most of them anyway.

 

[piksi]

He was so tired that he only managed to hoist up 20 shots.

they will never run out of excuses when it comes to defend their favorite players. They even excuse 6/22 shooting. Everybody who point any flaws out is "biased"

 

[Heuge]

they will never run out of excuses when it comes to defend their favorite players. They even excuse 6/22 shooting. Everybody who point any flaws out is "biased"

That isn't entirely true. I just hate it when people put a whole loss on one player when we all know basketball is a team game. Frankly, I love all the Kings players. (well, except House ) So, please, I find it offensive when you excuse me of playing favorites because it is simply not true.

 

[6th]

Oh, STOP!!

piksi, you are just as blind about your player as the Webber and Bibby supporters...maybe even more so.

All of you: When is this Chris vs Pedja going to stop? They are on the same friggin team. They are both players on the Sacramento Kings. You do not have to try and make your favorite player look better by criticizing the other. It only makes the other side want to defend their favorite player more. GEEZ!!

P.s. I am changing my avatar...please take note of it!!!

 

[R1LOVER]

Mentioned this before, but Peja has never and never will take 20 shots a game. That's reserved for guys who handle the ball or can create their own shot. Even pre-Webber's return last year he only got off 18. But I do think that he should rarely fall too far below 15 shots a night, even if its not flowing well. You can't ever get into rhythm if you never shoot in the first place.

You need to check your stat's a little better (or memory) Peja has shot over 20 shots a game a couple of times this year and he has alway's shot a very high % when he did so..................I think his goal should be 20 per game.............

 

[iheartBrad]

Oh, STOP!!

piksi, you are just as blind about your player as the Webber and Bibby supporters...maybe even more so.

All of you: When is this Chris vs Pedja going to stop? They are on the same friggin team. They are both players on the Sacramento Kings. You do not have to try and make your favorite player look better by criticizing the other. It only makes the other side want to defend their favorite player more. GEEZ!!

P.s. I am changing my avatar...please take note of it!!!

YEAH EVERYONE...you said it 6th...

besides everyone is suppose to know that Brad is better than everyone else on the Kings and in the NBA for that matter
...<--just joshin...in case anyone can't pick that up

 

[keflanag]

they will never run out of excuses when it comes to defend their favorite players. They even excuse 6/22 shooting. Everybody who point any flaws out is "biased"

There is one thing I will NEVER criticize Bibby, Webber, Pedja, or Brad for doing ... shooting an open shot. I don't care if any of them is 0/50 ... shoot it if you're open. For every 6/22 game, there is a 15/22. They are too good of shooters to pass up open shots. I have criticism of each of them. But never for missing an open shot.

As to your claim of defending my favorite players:

Actually, my favorite Kings player is Brad Miller. And he has sucked lately. He's passing up shots he should take, forcing drives to the basket, and complaining too much. The difference between me and you is ... I am a Kings fan. I am a fan of Bibby's, Webber's, RA, Pedja ... all of them. I'm a fan of every member of the team. Everyone here knows that in your mind Pedja is God, can do no wrong, and is the only reason the team has won any games this year (except for the Portland game ... even you can't claim Pedja won that won).

 

[Andriod_KiNg]

Oh, STOP!!

piksi, you are just as blind about your player as the Webber and Bibby supporters...maybe even more so.

All of you: When is this Chris vs Pedja going to stop? They are on the same friggin team. They are both players on the Sacramento Kings. You do not have to try and make your favorite player look better by criticizing the other. It only makes the other side want to defend their favorite player more. GEEZ!!

P.s. I am changing my avatar...please take note of it!!!

i agree !!!! They arnt competing agianst each other , they are teammates ! If we win it is because of everyone did there thing , if we lose it falls on everyone .. simple

 

[Stojakovic]

Mentioned this before, but Peja has never and never will take 20 shots a game. That's reserved for guys who handle the ball or can create their own shot. Even pre-Webber's return last year he only got off 18. But I do think that he should rarely fall too far below 15 shots a night, even if its not flowing well. You can't ever get into rhythm if you never shoot in the first place.

That's not true. If Peja was on a team with less offensive talent, you bet he'd be taking 20 shots a game. I think Peja knows the difference between putting up a good shot and putting up garbage. He RARELY EVER forces the action, and that's what keeps him from putting up 20 shots a game. Webber puts up many shots, and quite frankly 20% or so of his shots are pure forced garbage...not to say he's any worse than guys like Kobe and T-Mac, who also force the action a lot. I am sure that Peja could take 50 shots with a man in his face everytime (mind you, he'd probably have a better chance hitting those than Webber does with some of his garbage shots) , but that's not the point of it.

 

[Stojakovic]

Offensively with Vlade/Brad/Peja it looked great in the season, but there was no possible way the Kings last year would have won a championship with that line-up. They wouldn't have won it with Webb hobbled as he was either, but they had to get Webb back in and healthy to at least have a shot.

That's still something I wonder about. There are no facts whatsoever to back this claim up. This is just something we'll never know.

I believed that the team could definitely win with that style, and my opinion hasn't changed...despite the pretty good posts by Brick on the limitations of the princeton offense. Our passing that year was by far the best I have ever seen on an NBA team. All 5 guys on the floor could pass the ball, and our game was far from predictable...unlike this year.

 

[Entity]

Just curious piski is that one game against NO the only game you can think of?. No wait i remember 2 more. I am not sure against who but i do remember them. So like 3 games out of 33 Webber has an off night and you want to exile him from the team. How many nights can Mobley be off before he is the black sheep. I love Peja on our team, but your remarks contantly against the rest of the team in favor of him makes him seem weak and pathetic and not want him on the team. If Peja isn't on the road to score 40 or 50 or night do you just turn the tv off or can you enjoy a game that Peja is not shooting to well. hmmmmm Webber fg% 45.9 Peja fg% 44.6 that kinda makes you wonder who has the most bad nights. Your argument for that can't be Webber takes inside shots becasue that is usually your argument against Webber is that he takes to many jumpers.

 

[Entity]

That's not true. If Peja was on a team with less offensive talent, you bet he'd be taking 20 shots a game. I think Peja knows the difference between putting up a good shot and putting up garbage. He RARELY EVER forces the action, and that's what keeps him from putting up 20 shots a game. Webber puts up many shots, and quite frankly 20% or so of his shots are pure forced garbage...not to say he's any worse than guys like Kobe and T-Mac, who also force the action a lot. I am sure that Peja could take 50 shots with a man in his face everytime (mind you, he'd probably have a better chance hitting those than Webber does with some of his garbage shots) , but that's not the point of it.

Please look at my above post and the fg% of both Webber and Peja and you will see where the garbage they put up is landing. It would explain it alot better if you guys were from Serbia so if you are let me know because if your aren't and dont have that homer countryman mentality i think you have all flipped you lid.

 

[Heuge]

All 5 guys on the floor could pass the ball, and our game was far from predictable...unlike this year.

All 5 guys can still pass the ball.

 

[Entity]

Hey we know about the fg% now lets take a look at rebounds and assists or do you not even want to go there. Face it Webber is the best all around player on this Kings team. Peja is the best shooter. Mobley is the best scorer. Bibby is the best dancer, Miller is the best fouler.

 

[Stojakovic]

All 5 guys can still pass the ball.

Not nearly as efficient as the other unit.

As far as passing goes, give me a lineup of Bibby-Christie-Peja-Miller-Vlade ANYTIME over Bibby-Mobley-Peja-Miller-Webb.

 

[KP]

There is one thing I will NEVER criticize Bibby, Webber, Pedja, or Brad for doing ... shooting an open shot. I don't care if any of them is 0/50 ... shoot it if you're open. For every 6/22 game, there is a 15/22.

Good Post keflanag, I wish more people around here could understand this as well as you...^^

 

[Stojakovic]

Please look at my above post and the fg% of both Webber and Peja and you will see where the garbage they put up is landing. It would explain it alot better if you guys were from Serbia so if you are let me know because if your aren't and dont have that homer countryman mentality i think you have all flipped you lid.

Not worthy responding to, but seems like I had to stoop down to your level since I hadn't responded to your other provokations. Personally, I also think you're an imbecil, but I don't share it with you because I respect this board and the opinions of its posters.

 

[Entity]

why is it not worthy. because you can't i mean look at the stats on any kings page it tell you. I will give up 4 more missed shots a game if i can get 6 more assist and 8 or 10 more rebounds.

 

[Entity]

Can you simply not stand to say that Webber is a great player that he is the reason the Kings are on the map. If not is it because he is black or what. I don't see you saying anything about Miller and he has not been up to par all year. Oh wait i guess thats Webbers fault.

 

[6th]

These comments have gotten out of hand. There is currently no moderator on the board, however, I suggest you cease these type of comments.