Prince Could Be Option For Kings

This doesn't pass the smell test. Why would a young rebuilding team want a 30yo veteran making 11M/year at the position we are most overloaded at?
 
You could also do:

Prince + draft pick

for

Nocioni + Hawes

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5552318


The reason Prince is attractive is nothing more than a ton of salary coming off the books after this season... might be a good holdover player until a young SF can develop (draftee, Omri, Donte)

If the Kings really got lucky (or unlucky depending on how you feel about Beno)

Beno + Nocioni

for

Prince (ender this season) + Wilcox (ender this season)
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5552323
 
Why, why, WHY would the Kings want Prince? Solid player, yes. What this team needs? NO!! We're already stacked at SF and have two good young prospects there. And you especially laugh at this deal if there's talk of trading the 5 for him!


Thankfully, this one is so stupid that I don't think there possibly could be anything to it.
 
if nocioni, hawes is going out

play donte at the 2 for a really big line up?

JT/draft pick
mandry/JT/draft pick
prince/casspi
donte/beno/draft pick
reke/beno
 
Another idea is for the Kings to trade a prospect in this deal (Omri?) and the second rounder for the #7 pick:

Noc + Omri + Second round pick

for

Prince + #7 pick

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5552332


Or something like that.

Or the Kings could trade down and pick up the #7 and another prospect.

#5 Pick + Nocioni + Garcia

for

#7 Pick + Prince + Jerekobo
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5552335


Just scenarios that work on paper.
There is potential there...

You could also make a three team old, crummy SF swap and get Hedo involved.
 
sackings said:
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67197/20100614/prince_could_be_option_for_kings/also, there's also some other good news for the kings on realgm. Realgm is reporting that Cousins will not work out with the wolves. Therefore, I believe there is a high chance the Kings will draft Cousins at the number 5 spot.:)
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I fear this more likely means if Cousins is there they have a deal to trade the pick. Otherwise they are just stupid and not doing due-diligence. Which could very well be the case with the Wolves.
 
Dime Dropper said:
Why, why, WHY would the Kings want Prince? Solid player, yes. What this team needs? NO!! We're already stacked at SF and have two good young prospects there. And you especially laugh at this deal if there's talk of trading the 5 for him!


Thankfully, this one is so stupid that I don't think there possibly could be anything to it.
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Which would you rather have and answer your own question:

a. 3 Years of Nocioni
b. 4 Years of Hedo
c. 1 Year of Prince

Seems pretty clear to me.
 
Dime Dropper said:
Why, why, WHY would the Kings want Prince? Solid player, yes. What this team needs? NO!! We're already stacked at SF and have two good young prospects there. And you especially laugh at this deal if there's talk of trading the 5 for him!


Thankfully, this one is so stupid that I don't think there possibly could be anything to it.
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we can get rid of nocioni and garcia...two SF's with longer contracts

That is the only reason i would get prince
 
I think they got this from the same "Kings want a vet SF, hey what about Prince?" aside in that story about Favors and Cousins this morning.

Thing is that Prince has some things going for him -- defensive factor, even if not a defensive captain and totally ineffective inhelping the declingin Pistons on that front. Champiionship experience. And a biggee: ending contract. But its precisely because he has all those things that we do not make logical trading partners unless somebody is being stupid. A big ending contract, defensive champinship roleplayer...that's a piece with value. You can't just swap your bad contracts for it. So we'd have to be giving up real assets, and in this case its been talked about us giving up the #5. That would just be idiotic. Only way I could see it is if it was part of a deal where we swapped our #5 for the #7 if all of Wall, Turner, Cousins and Favors were gone at #5. Rather than draft Johnson, who we don't need, we trade for Prince, who we probably don't need and still get to take one of the next pack of big men at #7.
 
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Bricklayer said:
I think they got this from the same "Kings want a vet SF, hey what about Prince?" aside in that story about Favors and Cousins this morning.

Thing is that Prince has some things going for him -- defensive factor, even if not a defensive captain and totally ineffective inhelping the declingin Pistons on that front. Champiionship experience. And a biggee: ending contract. But its precisely because he has all those things that we do not make logical trading partners unless somebody is being stupid. A big ending contract, defensive champinship roleplayer...that's a piece with value. You can't just swap your bad contracts for it. So we'd have to be giving up real assets, and in this case its been talked about us giving up the #5. That would just be idiotic.
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Agreed... unless the Pistons take on the Kings bad contracts and the Kings get the #7 pick for the #5... then it is getting interesting.
 
Bricklayer said:
I think they got this from the same "Kings want a vet SF, hey what about Prince?" aside in that story about Favors and Cousins this morning.

Thing is that Prince has some things going for him -- defensive factor, even if not a defensive captain and totally ineffective inhelping the declingin Pistons on that front. Champiionship experience. And a biggee: ending contract. But its precisely because he has all those things that we do not make logical trading partners unless somebody is being stupid. A big ending contract, defensive champinship roleplayer...that's a piece with value. You can't just swap your bad contracts for it. So we'd have to be giving up real assets, and in this case its been talked about us giving up the #5. That would just be idiotic. Only way I could see it is if it was part of a deal where we swapped our #5 for the #7 if all of Wall, Turner, Cousins and Favors were gone at #5. Rather than draft Johnson, who we don't need, we trade for Prince, who we probably don't need and still get to take one of the next pack of big men at #7.
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that makes more sense

If Cousins is off the board, a swap shouldnt be out of the realm of possibilities
 
If the past rumors are true, the pistons want Cousins. so a 5 for 7 swap would only be done if Cousins IS available.
 
pupsingh said:
why not get rip instead? article says hes on the block too

tyreke Rip
Casspi no.7 pick FA
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Rip's contract runs until he's 67 and he gets paid like he's DWade. Last year with Kevin should have taught us our lesson there. Unless you are running Nellie's chuck n' duck trying to pair up 20pt scorers in the backcourt does not work. Never has historically, and we got to see what it looked like for us and joined the trend. Paying big long lasting contract money for the honor after we just escaped that same situation is not terribly enticing.

Prince's ender is far more attractive if we are just going to insist on overstuffing vets in front of our kids as usual. At least that one you get to rethink/renegotiate in a year.
 
I can think of a lot of reasons for Geoff to be comfortable with something like that. At #5, the BPA will either be Cousins or Johnson, when Geoff might be feeling risk-averse WRT the former, and mindful that we have no need for the latter. Assuming picks are made roughly like the mocks expect, nobody left at #7 would be particularly controversial, and Geoff would find us a safe and useful role player, or maybe more. If the rest of the deal was good for us, if I were Geoff, I'd strongly consider it.

But I doubt that the rest of the deal would be so appealing.
 
Sounds like the Pistons want Cousins very badly. They are hoping Petrie is in love with Monroe enough to make a swap after they make the picks. If you look at the Pistons needs, Cousins fits them. But so what? The Kings need a guy like Cousins too.
 
JB_kings said:
Sounds like the Pistons want Cousins very badly. They are hoping Petrie is in love with Monroe enough to make a swap after they make the picks. If you look at the Pistons needs, Cousins fits them. But so what? The Kings need a guy like Cousins too.
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I don't see any problem with this swap. If we don't want Cousins, then why shouldn't we just go down a few spots and clear more cap space for 2011. I have a feeling we want Udoh(maybe someone else) and not Monroe(GSW?) from what I have read so I think it makes sense to do this.
 
If Im swapping picks with the Pistons, I want Stuckey.

I rather keep nocioni and our 5th pick than take Prince and there 7th.

Nocioni is bad. He doesnt have to play. Prince is good, he'll require playing time. Prince = less time for Greene and Casspi. Im perfectly fine going into next season with those guys at the 3 spot.
 
NoBonus said:
Which would you rather have and answer your own question:

a. 3 Years of Nocioni
b. 4 Years of Hedo
c. 1 Year of Prince

Seems pretty clear to me.
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You want to bring Prince here and you can do it without the Kings giving up the 5th pick in the draft, maybe I'm on board. But if Cousins is there at 5, there is no way I trade him away for Prince or any kind of cap relief. He is a possible franchise center. You know, the kind you want to clear cap space for, so you can sign one.

So why would I make a trade that clears cap space for next year, so hopefully I can go out and sign a franchise player, when I can just sit tight and draft one. And at a very reduced price I might add. The only reason for trading for Prince would be cap relief. Other than that, he doesn't give me tingling sensations when I think about him.
 
This article was written by Adrian Wojnarowski. He didn't say sources told him this, or even that Det and Sac have talked about it. He basically looked at the teams needs, and threw this out there, that "the Kings might be interested in Prince".

There is no substance to this. The teams haven't talked from what we know. It's all speculation, much like Chad Ford in known for. I don't put much stock in this article at all. It was more along the lines of the kings are looking to move Noc and Cisco, and Det is one of the teams looking to move up. So why not work something out? IMO, just a bored journalist.

And no, a veteran sf is not one of the Kings biggest needs Adrian.
 
sc3252 said:
I don't see any problem with this swap. If we don't want Cousins, then why shouldn't we just go down a few spots and clear more cap space for 2011. I have a feeling we want Udoh(maybe someone else) and not Monroe(GSW?) from what I have read so I think it makes sense to do this.
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If the Kings' FO is that stupid, then it doesn't matter what they do because they'll screw it up either way. This is a 5 player draft and if they bow out of that top 5, then they're all idiots. I mean, I can sort of understand being iffy about taking Johnson because he's a wing, but being iffy about Cousins with the 5th pick is flat out stupid when he's a true center that rebounds, blocks shots, and has the potential to be a very good post scorer. I don't care if he doesn't have the perfect character makeup, if he did, he wouldn't even be near the 5th pick. With all the red flags considered, we're still lucky to have a shot at him at the 5th pick. If we had the third pick, then they could totally whine about his red flags, or his lack of athleticism, or whatever. That's not the case though.

You may think the trade makes sense based on a certain premise, but the premise is so incredibly stupid, that it makes the whole thing not even worth considering.
 
I don't mind trading for Prince if that means Nocioni is gone. I think the only way we give up the #5 pick is if Cousins is gone.
 
ElRey said:
I don't mind trading for Prince if that means Nocioni is gone. I think the only way we give up the #5 pick is if Cousins is gone.
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If Cousins is gone that means Johnson is available, and if he's available, giving up the 5th pick would be dumb.
 
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