Ozymandias
All-Star
good game
Preseason Kings @ Blazers
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sactowndog
All-Star
Yep a definite improvement.
burekijogurt
Starter
fun too.
Livinthedream
All-Star
Didn't they just shorten preseason this year?
Kangztillidie
Bench
I too agree with this. I feel like training camp is way too condensed. Football starts way earlier, they have OTAs and then a month long camp it seems. Kings training camp felt like 10 days. Before camp they were playin in semi organized pickup games. I get that it helps them get into shape but they arent working with players they will play with.
NewArena
All-Star
Oh please. He definitely is
Bad
Willie 5 boards in his last 40 mins played. Absolutely LOST on D. Lets slow players blow past him, today was Nurk over and over again.
Ben- I don't see how he is in the NBA, he has tiny hands, ver low bbiq, and bumbled the ball several times.
JJ- if its not a floater, he contributes next to nothing.
Okay
Giles had an off game. Looked flat on his shot, missed numerous point blank looks and got outmuscled down low. He contributes with his defense, rebounding nd passing.
Buddy- defense looked good (active), but his offense looked very un-buddy-like. Wild shots (one-hander) fading away on jump shots.
Good
Bagley is starting to gain confidence and it shows. He got swatted a few times but, hustles, is finishing better, letting the game come to him, grabbing boards nd trying to extend his range and use his right hand more often.
Yogi and mason did an admiral job. Mason hs had good assist numbers and is seeing the floor better. Hit some shots. Yogi is crafty and finds ways to score. He took a few bad shots but we needed offense at times.
Bjelly is a smart player grbbed 9 boards. Hit a real deep 3 and was active.
Willie 5 boards in his last 40 mins played. Absolutely LOST on D. Lets slow players blow past him, today was Nurk over and over again.
Ben- I don't see how he is in the NBA, he has tiny hands, ver low bbiq, and bumbled the ball several times.
JJ- if its not a floater, he contributes next to nothing.
Okay
Giles had an off game. Looked flat on his shot, missed numerous point blank looks and got outmuscled down low. He contributes with his defense, rebounding nd passing.
Buddy- defense looked good (active), but his offense looked very un-buddy-like. Wild shots (one-hander) fading away on jump shots.
Good
Bagley is starting to gain confidence and it shows. He got swatted a few times but, hustles, is finishing better, letting the game come to him, grabbing boards nd trying to extend his range and use his right hand more often.
Yogi and mason did an admiral job. Mason hs had good assist numbers and is seeing the floor better. Hit some shots. Yogi is crafty and finds ways to score. He took a few bad shots but we needed offense at times.
Bjelly is a smart player grbbed 9 boards. Hit a real deep 3 and was active.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
lots of one pass and shot going on, team needs a lot of work together to build that trust and chemistry. rotations need to be shortened in order to achieve that and I don't see Dave falling in line with that so there will be a lot of sporadic hoops that our eyes will behold
The Effort Police
Starter
So I think until further notice the rotation with be this...
Fox/Ferrell
Buddy/Shumpert
Bogdan/Jackson
Bagley/Bjelica
WCS/Giles
The obvious thing right now is the dearth at SF. We've started Jackson there, or started two point guards and moved Buddy there in the meantime. Bogdan will eventually come back and I think we're looking at him taking that spot.
The question is, that pushes a guard out of the rotation. It won't be Fox or Buddy, and I doubt it will be Yogi, so that leaves Mason and Shumpert.
No matter what statlines he puts up, Mason just doesn't pass the eye test for me and I can't put my finger on why.
Fox/Ferrell
Buddy/Shumpert
Bogdan/Jackson
Bagley/Bjelica
WCS/Giles
The obvious thing right now is the dearth at SF. We've started Jackson there, or started two point guards and moved Buddy there in the meantime. Bogdan will eventually come back and I think we're looking at him taking that spot.
The question is, that pushes a guard out of the rotation. It won't be Fox or Buddy, and I doubt it will be Yogi, so that leaves Mason and Shumpert.
No matter what statlines he puts up, Mason just doesn't pass the eye test for me and I can't put my finger on why.
Section 101
All-Star
It was Bagley running out to the 3 pt line not boxing out.
Shumpert? What makes you think he's going to be part of the rotation?
The Effort Police
Starter
Because he played last night? He played backup wing minutes in a game that was sorta considered dress rehearsal, and was out again with something or other tonight.
Okay...let's just say I couldn't possibly disagree more. I do not see Shumpert getting much play and I strongly suspect he'll be gone before February. Let's see how it plays out.
Oh God. Ben over Shumpert? I'd sooner shoot myself (or them) in the foot and go with 4 on 5.
4 on 5 might be a better option than both at this point. Atleast with Ben we can talk ourselves into thinking there potential there
Not for me. I'm done investing any hope in Ben. Did that for too long. That ship sailed, hit a reef and sank...with no survivors.
Section 101
All-Star
Last year.
sactowndog
All-Star
Well you keep your eye test and I will go with results to date this preseason
Mason 22.5 min
11.2 pts. 50.0 FG% 61.5 3P% 3.7 FTA
95.5 FT% 5.7AST 1.5 STL. 1.5 TO
Yogi 28.8 min
13.8 pts. 46.3 FG% 42.1 3P% 3.8 FTA
60.0 FT%. 2.5 AST 1.3 STL .3 TO
Fox 25.1 min
9.6 pts. 39.6 FG% 35.0 3P% 1.8 FTA
33.3 FT% 4.6 AST 1.0 STL 1.8 TO
Mason’s results are kicking the crap out of Fox’s results to-date. More points, way better percentages at all levels, more steals, better assist to turnover ratio. But go ahead and say there is no valid discussion.
Oh if you prefer to use advanced stats Mason is first on the team in PIE at 16.7, Yogi is 9th at 8.4 and Fox is 10th at 7.0
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kingsfan1984
Starter
I second his.....jackson suffers from same issue as hield
Suicide King
Starter
Had to work, missed it.now you've ruined it for all those suicidal Kings fans
I honestly think the Kings coaching staff was using the pre-season for what it was originally intended. Such a concept.
Bagley has the quickest jump in the NBA since prime Shawn Marion, I would really love if they played Bjelly @ SF I know the guy looks slow (he is) and awkward but he contests on the perimeter with his length and his rebounding/IQ/shooting make up for it. The Timberwolves made the same mistake for 3 years playing him at PF (where he is useful) but the guy's full potential is at SF next to Bogi @ SG. This will also free up time from the back up PF position for Giles and Bagley to play more.
Love Yogi as well he will probably lead the team in charges drawn.
Love Yogi as well he will probably lead the team in charges drawn.
jcwkings
All-Star
I really wish Vlade would get an actual serviceable wing player on the team instead of making the coaching staff play players out of position for poor roster construction.
sactowndog
All-Star
That was supposed to be Hezonja but he decided to go bury himself on the Knicks bench for a year.
Ozymandias
All-Star
TaxMan
Starter
I’m not a huge fan, but mason has played very well this preseason. Hard to imagine them rewarding him by taking him out of the rotation.
sactowndog
All-Star
It would be a Kings thing to do to bench the guy who for preseason has the:
Highest PIE: 16.7
Highest TS%: 70.3%
Highest AST ratio: 37.4%
4th highest FTA: 3.8 (3.9 is 2nd)
