Predictions on Landry?

DeMoN

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I seriously doubt we keep Landry after this year, he's going to ask for 10million or more a year. He's a perfect fit for a team like Boston or Orlando or any top tier team as a 6th man, kinda like a Lamar Odom type player. But he's not for us. If we contend in the playoffs in 2 or so years we can't have him starting at PF.

I'm thinking maybe we can trade him at the deadline for a decent young point guard. I'd take Kyle Lowry from them, although Houston would be lacking at point guard. But they're making due without Brooks at the moment.
 
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lol have u gone insane? Landry can't and won't ask for 10m+ thats a good stater-perenial start money... hes a bench guy 6th man at most who started for us (25win team) last season cuz we had no better option in the post...

I agree we shouldnt resign, but no way hes asking 10m+... more like something in the 6-8m range..

edit: and to go with the rest of ur post... Houston wont take him back after they traded him to us... specially for their only point guard producing right now. I dare to say no other team will take Landry for young talent... he would be a half season rental... we might get late picks and role players for him if Petrie decides to trade him..
 
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Right now, it would be hard to trade Landry for a half eaten bag of Doritos. He's playing terribly on both ends of the floor and he's an undersized forward. There is ZERO chance he will go for 10m, even if he was playing like he was last year. If he continues at this pace, I think he'll be a 3-5m guy, TOPS.
 
Book on GP to resign him. He saw him as key to the rebuild and i doubt anythings changed there. Our best bet is to hope that he sees him as part of the bench unit as opposed to starter
 
The most he'll get is midlevel if he keeps playing this way, and that's only due to his reputation in Houston. He's proving the point that undersized big men peak early, and particularly those who can't rebound and only have one trick (inside-outside scoring) find it hard to sustain themselves. I think he's really worth in the $4 million range, but someone will give him midlevel, I'm sure.
 
The most he'll get is midlevel if he keeps playing this way, and that's only due to his reputation in Houston. He's proving the point that undersized big men peak early, and particularly those who can't rebound and only have one trick (inside-outside scoring) find it hard to sustain themselves. I think he's really worth in the $4 million range, but someone will give him midlevel, I'm sure.

Your assuming there is even a mid level next year. Fact is nobody knows what the CBA will be so it's impossible to say how much he will get.
 
At this point I wouldnt mind letting him walk...

...Assuming we are unable to get a bag of chips for him by the deadline.

Anything but a resign (although I agree with that he probably will end up getting a new contract with us - Petrie always overpays mediocre talent - hopefully with the CBA he wont end up being too much of an ablatross).
 
Book on GP to resign him. He saw him as key to the rebuild and i doubt anythings changed there. Our best bet is to hope that he sees him as part of the bench unit as opposed to starter

GP can be a pretty astute basketball observer when he's got the right agenda. Landry's ineffectiveness and one dimesnionality asa starter cannot have escaped him. I think we wanted it to work, I think we certainly were going to make an effort for it to work once you trade Kevin for him. But I'm not sure we are so wed to him that Geoff would refuse to recognize all counter evidence. Some of this too may depend on Westphal, both his decisions, and whether he remains as coach. Now he seems to be pretty wed to Landry...or at least was. he was pretty wed to Beno too to start, but eventually went awy. If JT for instance started getting starts and peforming well, it makes it easier for Geoff to consider a Landry move. If JT never gets that chance, Or Cousins or whoever, if Landry is the only guy getting starts and big minutes, then it requires a leap of faith by Geoff, something he has never been very good at.
 
exactly, well said. We can all see that it isnt looking like its in our best interests long term to resign him but it all comes down to GP, market value and our ability to get that production somewhere else.
 
GP can be a pretty astute basketball observer when he's got the right agenda. Landry's ineffectiveness and one dimesnionality asa starter cannot have escaped him. I think we wanted it to work, I think we certainly were going to make an effort for it to work once you trade Kevin for him. But I'm not sure we are so wed to him that Geoff would refuse to recognize all counter evidence. Some of this too may depend on Westphal, both his decisions, and whether he remains as coach. Now he seems to be pretty wed to Landry...or at least was. he was pretty wed to Beno too to start, but eventually went awy. If JT for instance started getting starts and peforming well, it makes it easier for Geoff to consider a Landry move. If JT never gets that chance, Or Cousins or whoever, if Landry is the only guy getting starts and big minutes, then it requires a leap of faith by Geoff, something he has never been very good at.

I hope Jason gets more starts, i'm hearing he only started because Landry slept through shootaround.
 
What if Petrie is pulling an Inception on everyone and is floating the rumor of JT being on the market to make it seem like we're keeping Landry, as a means to inflate his value to this franchise as a scorer? And Westphal's mind-numbing decision to keep Landry's defense-hating self in the starting five is just part of the intention to keep him in the spotlight?

I was half-serious about this idea at first, but then I thought about the dumb coaching decision on top of this dumb coaching decision on top of those other dumb coaching decisions that have been made this year and it ended up sounding as ridiculous as you think this is right now. :confused:
 
landry is best as a 6th man. it would be sick if petrie could turn him into the ideal 2 guard. basically swapped kevin into another 2 guard that can play with our big guard reke.

kevin --> landry --> 2guard :)
 
What if Petrie is pulling an Inception on everyone and is floating the rumor of JT being on the market to make it seem like we're keeping Landry, as a means to inflate his value to this franchise as a scorer? And Westphal's mind-numbing decision to keep Landry's defense-hating self in the starting five is just part of the intention to keep him in the spotlight?

I was half-serious about this idea at first, but then I thought about the dumb coaching decision on top of this dumb coaching decision on top of those other dumb coaching decisions that have been made this year and it ended up sounding as ridiculous as you think this is right now. :confused:

You're giving PW and GP way too much credit IMO
 
Unless Carl goes on some kind of an extended hot streak, I think GP will let Landry go (but will try to re-sign Dalembert). After one and a half miserable seasons, I doubt Landry will want to stick around unless he gets some assurance about his minutes which will be difficult for either PW or GP to give given the quantity of big men on the roster. The only question I have is whether he's traded this season, sign and trade during the summer, or simply walks away.
 
GP can be a pretty astute basketball observer when he's got the right agenda. Landry's ineffectiveness and one dimesnionality asa starter cannot have escaped him. I think we wanted it to work, I think we certainly were going to make an effort for it to work once you trade Kevin for him. But I'm not sure we are so wed to him that Geoff would refuse to recognize all counter evidence. Some of this too may depend on Westphal, both his decisions, and whether he remains as coach. Now he seems to be pretty wed to Landry...or at least was. he was pretty wed to Beno too to start, but eventually went awy. If JT for instance started getting starts and peforming well, it makes it easier for Geoff to consider a Landry move. If JT never gets that chance, Or Cousins or whoever, if Landry is the only guy getting starts and big minutes, then it requires a leap of faith by Geoff, something he has never been very good at.

One would hope that after our experience with Kenny Thomas, Petrie would think long and hard before weding himself to and undersized PF. If he wants to sign for 3 or 4 Mil a year for two years, then fine. But there's no way I would pay him 7 or 8 mil a year.
 
One would hope that after our experience with Kenny Thomas, Petrie would think long and hard before weding himself to and undersized PF. If he wants to sign for 3 or 4 Mil a year for two years, then fine. But there's no way I would pay him 7 or 8 mil a year.

Agreed. If his disappointing play continues, I think GP lets him walk and looks elsewhere in the FA market.
 
I would love to trade Landry + _____ for a killer 2 guard.


Who is available via trade that would also fit the team is the bigger question...
 
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