Potential Free Agent/Trade/Sign Tracker, '25-'26 Season

I mean they can just retain him too. It'll f their cap, but they can do it.

Kuminga is a very good swing for the Kings. If it costs you a good prospect at our position of strength... eh that's probably fine

I’d rather give up Ellis then Carter I think Carter has more potential with his ball skills

Hmmm... I'm not so sure about that. He's played for 4 seasons and has basically shown himself for what he is at this point which is a pretty versatile scorer. The question is how much the productivity ticks up with more minutes. His value is all production based at this point. Can he get to that 25 ppg type of player or not? Depending on what a team pays and has to give up in trade determines whether this pushes a franchise forward or down the hole. Remember, the Warriors are in the drivers seat folks, they just are, and they've shown they'll hang onto young talent beyond it's expiring date when they should trade it like with Wiseman and maybe Moody. They also have time on their side. They are the ones that can drag this out and if they do the suitors could very well eventually disappear and wait until the deadline or next summer.

I think he can be a 20 ppg guy with good efficiency and decent defense
 
Has to be more to this, doesn’t make sense to get that talent for 2 second rounders
Some are saying Houston did him a solid sending him home to his preferred destination. I have no idea but I feel like we should pull Carter from our offer and let Dubs know they are running out of options.
 
I’d rather give up Ellis then Carter I think Carter has more potential with his ball skills



I think he can be a 20 ppg guy with good efficiency and decent defense

I think he can be better than that, efficiency will be a question as you bring up. He's a bencher but the advanced stats say it's a question as to where he goes. Up or down? He's a flatline on most of the prominent ones. Again, being a bench player has a major say in those things so him being a net zero on most things is probably a good sign?

That said, this is a gamble straight up. I don't care about age or any of that. This is the Kings making a much better choice on the type of player to go after but this is them doing the same exact thing they always do when it comes to cutting corners and getting what they want NOW. Not developing assets, preparing their cap, etc. Now, it's understandable considering yet another GM changeover occurred but the Kings haven't prepared themselves to make a move like this now without potentially getting screwed. They are trying to trade a young player that was considered a top 7 pick that had a lost season basically before he's even had the chance to show anything. What does anyone expect the Warriors to do? Carter could make the Kings look like fools for trading him or another team for overvaluing him. Knowing history, I'm going former on that one.

The Kings are in a rough spot and this is why I said if they are willing to give up the little they do have they can only afford to do it with a legit superstar and do it all at once. That means Keegan, Keon, Carter, and picks. Not on more types that don't appear to be initially looking like a great bargain. The Kings are already learning a hard reality about Monk, Domas, DeMar, etc. Cap flexibility is KEY for teams right now. Parting assets out right now will get them nowhere most likely. Then there's the catch 22, because the Kings per usual are coming back to school late on their homework with no study time under their belt expecting an A+ grade. They want the dominoes to fall their way but didn't actually do the work of setting them up first, lol. If Perry can get Kuminga without damaging much of the Kings future flexibility then by all means, but good luck on that. If they are balking at Carter? They either want a lot or they want Kuminga to play out that QO giving the Warriors another year to see if they will be transitioning to youth themselves. I think the Warriors know this next season is likely their last real go at it with their current core. If you look at their cap they clearly look to be putting themselves into a position to hand the team over to the younger players in a year or so.
 
I don’t think the Kings have any intention of firesaling assets to rebuild but they absolutely can run it back and hope that a competent vet PG can help showcase some of our movable pieces this season to get deals made while the team secures a top 8 pick. It’s weird that the biggest kings doomers in other places don’t see this is happening or look at how Perry operated with the Knicks.
 
It might be, but if Kuminga isn't what the Kings think he is and they pay him 30 million plus a season right off the get while giving up the one lone lottery pick under 25 years of age next season then it might hurt more than people think. That said, they'll want the farm and if I were them I'd do the same exact thing. Unless something goes down where the Warriors want to just get it over with a Kuminga suitor is paying in some way.
Going off the rumored proposal (Saric, Carter, & 2nds), we wouldn’t be paying him anything close to $30 mil plus per year.

If that is the package we offer, the max Kuminga can make in his first year is $18.6 mil (to make the trade legal). Assuming it’s a 4 year contract with 8% raises, that would make his total contract value be $83.81 mil (which is ~$20.95 mil per year).

Again, going off the rumors, it sounds like we’re talking about a $20 mil/year contract. Nothing close to a $30+ mil/year contract.
 
Running it back was and isn’t the smartest thing pure nonsense stunting Keegan’s growth with demar/lavine taking most of the shots. Carter and Ellis will get like 10mpg each behind vets that won’t be here in two years all to get the 10th seed and watch curry drop 40 on us in the playoffs-in
yeah, it’s not ideal. I’ll have to take a gap year from basketball. I still enjoy Monk, but realise he’s not winning games for this team. Demar and Lavine both good guys but will be very disappointed if both start the season.
 
yeah, it’s not ideal. I’ll have to take a gap year from basketball. I still enjoy Monk, but realise he’s not winning games for this team. Demar and Lavine both good guys but will be very disappointed if both start the season.

Neither guy is coming off the bench and we’re gunna be in the 10-12th seed all season which means Vivek won’t let us tank the second half with the play-in is in sight. Wasting development years and not gaining a premium pick and a draft being called generational
 
Going off the rumored proposal (Saric, Carter, & 2nds), we wouldn’t be paying him anything close to $30 mil plus per year.

If that is the package we offer, the max Kuminga can make in his first year is $18.6 mil (to make the trade legal). Assuming it’s a 4 year contract with 8% raises, that would make his total contract value be $83.81 mil (which is ~$20.95 mil per year).

Again, going off the rumors, it sounds like we’re talking about a $20 mil/year contract. Nothing close to a $30+ mil/year contract.

The rumors are that's what he wants. The other rumor was he already turned down a 5 for 150 deal from the Warriors. If he were willing to get just a little above the MLE the Warriors probably would have re-signed him already.
 
Neither guy is coming off the bench and we’re gunna be in the 10-12th seed all season which means Vivek won’t let us tank the second half with the play-in is in sight. Wasting development years and not gaining a premium pick and a draft being called generational

At least it will show all. If the Kings are in 10th-12th again and they don't see that as a sign of stagnation then there's no fixing it. If they are in that range then I fully expect a rebuild if there is any truth to Perry running the show. If he is and his choice is to run the same path to nowhere then it's a matter of time. This is also on Doug and the young guys. If a Kuminga deal is DOA and Carter is on the summer league team, he better be playing to turn this franchises opinion of him sideways and right straight up there ***. Then we know who he is.
 
The rumors are that's what he wants. The other rumor was he already turned down a 5 for 150 deal from the Warriors. If he were willing to get just a little above the MLE the Warriors probably would have re-signed him already.
But again, that’s not what the rumors are. The rumored deal is Saric + Carter. The math works out to Kuminga’s deal being a max of $83.81 mil if that’s the case.

What Kuminga wants is only a part of this. What he’s being offered is just as important. Sure it was rumored he turned down a 5 for 150 deal. If that’s is actually true, he gambled on himself and made a poor choice in the end (similar to Schroder turning down the Lakers big offer).

And I’m not convinced the Warriors are jumping at the chance to sign Kuminga to an $83 mil contract. They made him that rumored offer before they had Butler. They now have a lot of money tied up in their key guys. The calculus has changed. They live in a different world than they did when the originally made that offer to Kuminga.
 
But again, that’s not what the rumors are. The rumored deal is Saric + Carter. The math works out to Kuminga’s deal being a max of $83.81 mil if that’s the case.

What Kuminga wants is only a part of this. What he’s being offered is just as important. Sure it was rumored he turned down a 5 for 150 deal. If that’s is actually true, he gambled on himself and made a poor choice in the end (similar to Schroder turning down the Lakers big offer).

And I’m not convinced the Warriors are jumping at the chance to sign Kuminga to an $83 mil contract. They made him that rumored offer before they had Butler. They now have a lot of money tied up in their key guys. The calculus has changed. They live in a different world than they did when the originally made that offer to Kuminga.
The whole league lives in a different world now. You can see how many teams have wrapped up most of their salary cap in two or three top players and are scrounging around just to put together a competitive roster. That includes the Kings.
 
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