Monte drafted Hali, not Vlade
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Monte drafted Hali, not Vlade
BuddyBuckets
G-League
I understand he did. But we had that draft pick leftover from the Vlade era. I don't think that was some diamond in the rough pick. Hali was top 5 and slipped for some weird reason. Maybe Vlade doesn't make that pick, but even take that away. Vlade left us with Fox + #11 pick + Buddy as our only bad contract.
Monte left us with Monk, Derozan, LaVine, Sabonis combining for 130-135 million a year. That is disgusting.
Not only was Buddy making more than Monk, but the salary cap was lower. When we traded Buddy he was making 20% (exactly) of the salary cap. Monk is currently making 12.2% of the cap. Buddy was making the equivalent of $31M today. It was a bad contract, for sure.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
The Buddy contract also put the team in a tough spot with Bogi.
35 wins?! Oh goody.
BuddyBuckets
G-League
What % of the cap does lavine, demar, monk account for?
BuddyBuckets
G-League
To add to my point about how hes not even in the same realm as the trio we have today.
1. This was during a time when the 2nd apron did not exist. Teams like the Clippers, Warriors, Celtics, Lakers, etc disregarded the cap completely.
2. Buddy was fresh off near back to back 20ppg seasons shooting 40+% from 3.
3. Buddy was often rumored to be in trade talks. The near Lakers deal where we almost acquired a combo of Kuzma/Harrell and a pick before LA pivoted to Westbrook.
What we are hearing from Sac media right now is essentially that Monk at best had neutral value (det was willing to take him in exchange for no assets, are other teams?) and Demar/LaVine are not tradable without us attaching incentive.
Buddy the day Monte took over was a positive asset that teams were interested in trading for. Later he became a malcontent and it was clear the team was heading towards a breakup, and he became negative. But it's revisionist to pretend otherwise.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
What's the point really. See if Jones can be that guy. That's a much better call. If this team is trash it will be known by the deadline and then it's waiting out contracts or dumping time. The Kings have Saric, might as well just use him. He was somewhat decent with the Dubs recently.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
I doubt Saric plays a minute for the kings
Do not move the goalposts. You said Buddy was making "Monk money". He was not, he was making significantly more.
BuddyBuckets
G-League
For that i was wrong. Relative to the cap, you are right it was significantly more. However the entire point still stands. Our cap sheet was far cleaner at that time, and buddy was viewed as a positive asset unlike these 3.
Monte left us with more talent on the roster I think the issue here is that the new CBA makes teams resistant to take on Monk or DDR and give anything back even though both signings appear very reasonable compared to many second contracts being handed out. Hopefully having a real PG on the team can showcase them for moves while also help the young guys learn to play correctly.
I would still feel a lot better winning 30 games with the young guys getting 10-20mpg than winning < 20 and giving them 24mpg and letting them develop bad habits, but we need to get some additional FRP from other teams for Monk and DDR later down the road to make that gamble pay off a bit.
I would still feel a lot better winning 30 games with the young guys getting 10-20mpg than winning < 20 and giving them 24mpg and letting them develop bad habits, but we need to get some additional FRP from other teams for Monk and DDR later down the road to make that gamble pay off a bit.
Noble
Bench
Saric is going to ball out
In all seriousness, I kind of hope he's not washed. I've always liked his game and no he's not a star or anything but he plays hard and makes winning plays.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Maybe, I'd figure since he's another former Warrior he's a lock, haha. Both Saric and Eubanks kind of fit a culture vibe in one way since they both border on dirty so maybe the idea is they'll bring an edge.
Caccia
Starter
That would mean that Doug Christie is being set up to fail. I have a hard time seeing that, but then, I am no cynic.
twslam07
All-Star
I still like Chris Boucher (especially if DeRozan comes off the bench and if we can move Monk for something that isn’t a guard)…
PG - Schroder / Carter / ???
SG - LaVine / Ellis / Davis
SF - Murray / DeRozan / Clifford
PF - Boucher / Raynaud / Saric
C - Sabonis / Eubanks / Jones
Although not sexy, that starting unit is at least balanced. Let it ride for one more year and then you have both LaVine and DeRozan on expirings.
PG - Schroder / Carter / ???
SG - LaVine / Ellis / Davis
SF - Murray / DeRozan / Clifford
PF - Boucher / Raynaud / Saric
C - Sabonis / Eubanks / Jones
Although not sexy, that starting unit is at least balanced. Let it ride for one more year and then you have both LaVine and DeRozan on expirings.
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Like 5 years too late on Boucher, but better late than never i guess
Caccia
Starter
The team looks like this now (after Makaveli):
Sabonis/Eubanks/Maxime
Keegan/Šarić/Jones
Demar/Nique
LaVine/Keon/Carter
Schröder/Monk/Carter
It would be similar to last year in that the first unit is offense-oriented, and the second unit defense-oriented, pretty much the opposite of what the Perry, Armstrong, and Christie have talked about. We still have the two former Bulls playing together. LaVine had a horrendous 119.9 defensive rating, according to the NBA stats, next to last on the team. DeRozan was better at 115.3, compared to 114.5 for Monk and 113.9 for Sabonis.
I doubt that Šarić will be an upgrade over Trey Lyles if he is playing third string in the Euro League right now. He did pull in 8.6 rebounds per 36 minutes, compared to 8.4 for Lyles, but only played in 16 games last season for the Nuggets. Šarić had a good season the previous year for Golden State, but is no more a shot blocker than Lyles. Nor is Drew Eubanks, for that matter, unlike Isaac Jones.
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twslam07
All-Star
Maybe not? His advanced impact stats are very good…
EPM = 92nd
VPM = 80th
DPM = 54th
LEBRON = 104th
2Y RAPM = 22nd
eRAPTOR = 100th
MAMBA = 88th
He’s got great length for a PF…
Height w/o Shoes = 6’8”
Wingspan = 7’4”
Standing Reach = 9’2.5”
And his per 36 min stats were solid as well (albeit he only averaged 17.2 mpg)…
.615 TS%
15.5 FGA
.492 FG%
8.1 3PA
.363 3P%
7.4 2PA
.633 2P%
3.6 FTA
.782 FT%
21.0 PTS
9.4 REB
1.4 AST
1.0 STL
1.0 BLK
1.2 TO
2.8 PF
Good stuff. For some reason, I thought he regressed a bit this year.
He was just a glaring target a few years back.
White_Chocolate
Starter
Caccia
Starter
Everything would look different if LaVine moved to small forward and Keon started at shooting guard. Ellis makes that much of an impact, and having DeRozan come off the bench would eliminate the ball-stopping phenomenon we saw all too often last season.
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DDR on the bench makes too much sense for this team to do.
We would have made the playoffs if they did this last year and balance out the offensive hubs. But noooo egos
twslam07
All-Star
Can’t be longer than a 2 year deal, but he seems like a decent fit with our roster (assuming the caveats I mentioned earlier).I am very on board with a Boucher signing
Caccia
Starter
Those are great stats, I agree. It looks like a couple of other teams are interested, too.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
One situation I’ll be monitoring is Milwaukee. They should be trying to get Deebo or Malik. What about trading one of them for Kuzma and an asset? For exampe what if the Kings really like Markovic? I’d imagine something like this would be more likely to happen at the trade deadline. Deebo in particular would be a good get for them.
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