Phoenix vs. SA - Conf. Finals

Bballkingsrock said:
The Spurs lost because of themselves. No team is going to win a game missing 12 FTs. It is just kike the first Seattle game the Sonics one.
Duncan wasnt right. 15/15 in game 3... and like 3/14 in game 4? Anyways something rattled him.
 

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SacTownKid said:
I think that block was a goaltend. When they showed the replay Amares hand was bent over the rim and the balls was already over the rim. So basically it was Amares hand being supported by the rim that made Duncan miss that shot.
I don't think so. I think it was the battle of strength between Duncan's dunk attempt and Amare's block that moved his hand over the rim. It didn't start in that position.
 

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Bibby_Is_Clutch said:
Duncan wasnt right. 15/15 in game 3... and like 3/14 in game 4? Anyways something rattled him.
That happens fairly often with Duncan. If he doesn't hit his first couple of free throws he may be off all night. I've seen it happen at least three or four other times just this year... and I think Hubie was talking about it a while back.
 
VF21 said:
That happens fairly often with Duncan. If he doesn't hit his first couple of free throws he may be off all night. I've seen it happen at least three or four other times just this year... and I think Hubie was talking about it a while back.
Well the announcers were talking about it in game 3 during his streak of 15. They were saying how amazing it was because he used to pull a shaq every time at the line like last year and make a low percentage. This year he has clearly worked on it and for shaq its "Make them when they count" but Duncan couldnt do that today.
 
VF21 said:
I don't think so. I think it was the battle of strength between Duncan's dunk attempt and Amare's block that moved his hand over the rim. It didn't start in that position.
But I think the ball was already over the rim at the moment Amares hand came in to contact with the ball.
 
Hey, David Stern is the commissioner. If the Red Sox can somehow beat the Yankees while being down 0-3, I'm sure Stern can find a way to rig this series.
 

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VF21 said:
The Suns may have won tonight, but I don't think they can do that 3 out of the next 4 games...
I don't think that they can win even one more; the Suns got the benefit of a couple questionable calls in the final minute, and basically pulled off a win despite being outplayed for about 95% of the game.

Plus, if they're counting on getting stops down the stretch to beat San Antonio, they're in big, big trouble.
 

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doone said:
Hey, David Stern is the commissioner. If the Red Sox can somehow beat the Yankees while being down 0-3, I'm sure Stern can find a way to rig this series.
The 2004 ALCS wasn't rigged, and this won't be, either. The Boston Red Sox were a better team; they just finally learned to stop getting in their own way when it comes to the Yankees.

The Spurs are a far superior team to Phoenix; the Suns aren't close enough to their level for Stern to "rig" the series, even if he were so inclined.
 

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
The 2004 ALCS wasn't rigged, and this won't be, either. The Boston Red Sox were a better team; they just finally learned to stop getting in their own way when it comes to the Yankees.
Either that or the Curse of the Bambino finally expired...

;)
 
SacTownKid said:
But I think the ball was already over the rim at the moment Amares hand came in to contact with the ball.
Doesn't matter, the ball was still touching Duncan, so it can't be a goaltend. The goaltend rule is only in effect if the ball is in the air, not if it's in the players hand. A guy could theoretically block it by reaching up from inside the net if the offensive player doesn't let go.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
I don't think that they can win even one more; the Suns got the benefit of a couple questionable calls in the final minute, and basically pulled off a win despite being outplayed for about 95% of the game.

Plus, if they're counting on getting stops down the stretch to beat San Antonio, they're in big, big trouble.
Suns dominated the 2nd half, so how could they of been completely outplayed? Suns now have Joe Johnson back, a guy that missed the first two games. He hd 26 last night with him back there's no reason why they won't force a game 6. Shame he wasn't healthly all through the series but like we our series the Spurs got lucky with other guys being out for the other team.
 
Ray Allen34 said:
Suns dominated the 2nd half, so how could they of been completely outplayed? Suns now have Joe Johnson back, a guy that missed the first two games. He hd 26 last night with him back there's no reason why they won't force a game 6. Shame he wasn't healthly all through the series but like we our series the Spurs got lucky with other guys being out for the other team.
They may force a Gm6 if they're lucky, but it's ovum. Quite a disappointing ending to this season, probably reminding their fans of Barkley's 2nd-4th playoff exits with them.

I'd like to mention that the way the Spurs toyed with Phx so far goes to show how good the Kobe/Shaq squads were, beating them 3 times. :D The Spurs are going to pick up 3 titles in a hurry if Duncan doesn't shred a knee or rupture his Achilles. Btw, their next title looks like it'll come against Miami. Judging from the last Det/Miami game, the refs have clearly changed their outlook on the Pissterns since the Finals. No spotting Det 12 FTAs per game, no 4 jumpball vios on Shaq vs Wallace. I'm guessing the league may not be too happy with their fans???
 
SacTownKid said:
But I think the ball was already over the rim at the moment Amares hand came in to contact with the ball.
That shouldn't even matter. If the ball is over the rim on a shot attempt, it's goaltending if you block it. Refs made a bad call there, but I'm not shedding croc tears noting the number of times Nose has already gotten away with flopping and travelling on his forays to the rim.
 
^ I think he's referring to Amare....lol...but I'm not sure.... speaking of Amare, what do the tattoos on his neck say? I know one of them says "Black Jesus"(?) and the other one says Lord something?? I'm not sure what it is but I've been curious :)
 

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Gargamel said:
The Spur that looks ratlike. Black shaggy hair, travels and flops a lot.
ROFLOL!!!!

From now on I shall refer to Manu as NOSE. I really dislike him. He does more travelling and flopping than anyone. His flops are so stupid looking and exaggerated that they are disgusting.
 
Gargamel said:
The Spur that looks ratlike. Black shaggy hair, travels and flops a lot.
If you watched the Spurs lately, and last nights game, it was actually Tony Parker who seems to average 2-3 travels a game. And his steps are much shorter than Ginobili's.

Why aren't the refs calling Manu for travels?
 
I Have a Question ...

The announcers (with their access to TRIVIAL FACTS), have been saying "NO TEAM HAS EVER COME BACK FROM BEING DOWN 0-3 TO WIN THE WCF" ....

My question is this .... has a team ever come back to tie it up 3-3 after being down 0-3 ???
 
Gargamel said:
They may force a Gm6 if they're lucky, but it's ovum. Quite a disappointing ending to this season, probably reminding their fans of Barkley's 2nd-4th playoff exits with them.

I'd like to mention that the way the Spurs toyed with Phx so far goes to show how good the Kobe/Shaq squads were, beating them 3 times. :D The Spurs are going to pick up 3 titles in a hurry if Duncan doesn't shred a knee or rupture his Achilles. Btw, their next title looks like it'll come against Miami. Judging from the last Det/Miami game, the refs have clearly changed their outlook on the Pissterns since the Finals. No spotting Det 12 FTAs per game, no 4 jumpball vios on Shaq vs Wallace. I'm guessing the league may not be too happy with their fans???
Kobe and Shaq never beat this current squad. This current squad has not even reached its peak yet with Ginobili and Parker. They beat the crap San Antonio squads that Sacramento would have killed. They won last year through a miracle shot and a choke job by the Spurs.
 
Folsom Al said:
The announcers (with their access to TRIVIAL FACTS), have been saying "NO TEAM HAS EVER COME BACK FROM BEING DOWN 0-3 TO WIN THE WCF" ....

My question is this .... has a team ever come back to tie it up 3-3 after being down 0-3 ???
Not sure about Western Conference finals but just 2 years ago Portland came back on Dallas from being down 0-3 and nearly won.
 
Yup... anythings possible with momentum and a home crowd on your side. I wonder how many total teams have come back from 0-3 and lost game 7. Pheonix has game 7 at home so it would be tough to lose... although we did lose a game 7 at home a few years back if anyone remembers.