SIR HENRY 8
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after some thinking ,I'd have to say Bibby ...It would ideal situation for him to be in, he is not afraid to take the shot,he WANTS to take that shot,Bibby is Clutch
Peja vs. Webber finally settled
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4cwebb
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KP said:At least you answered!So you say Nash?
...wait what about Marion or Amare or Richardson they don't draw any attention? As far as letting Webber take the shot, that worked out real good for the Bucks and Houston huh??
I'd rather have Nash taking a last second shot consistently from that Suns' roster as the rest of the guys around him are relatively streaky. Sure, they draw attention, but I guess I'm envisioning a scenario with very little time left on the clock where the defense only has to worry about a short pass or the guy with the ball taking the shot.
And, I enjoyed the Milwaukee and Houston outcomes, but I think that's just a shot that if you are the other team you have to live with instead of letting Bibby or Peja have an open look from that same distance.
4cwebb
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KP said:
Alright, I'll grant you that CWebb has in actuality made more game-winning (or game-tying), last-second shots than Peja, but if you had to pick one player to take a three with less than 3 seconds left, and you knew that player was going to be relatively open when taking that shot, who are you picking?
As for Nash and Bibby, I think Mike has that shot against the Lakers in the playoffs in 2002, but other than that, much like CWebb, his game winning shots are for games which in the end only count as a W or a L in the standings. Not that those aren't important, but it's not as if any of the players we are discussing here are taking (and making) the shots that they great clutch shooters seem to consistently make.
KP
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Just out of curiosity how'd you pick your name?? Mike has hit a lot of shots in a lot of big games against a lot of good teams. And If you gotta pick one guy (I hate the whole Peja vs. Webb thing) I think I'll go with the guy whose made about 8 in the last few years, even though "regular season games" don't count... I think I'm 4cwebb on this one.4cwebb said:
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GoGoGadget
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bibbyweb said:
Really?
They justify anything you say??
Well, then, I gotta start using those puppies more often.
You stupid son of a...
HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
Maybe it's just the title of this thread that breeds these hostile responses? all my earlier posts went poof with the first batch of knuckle heads posts. (NO I did not say anything negative about either players) Sad day when fans of a team feel compelled to dis one player to support another. Personaly I happily root for ans support Both Pedja and Webber and cheering for one has notheing at all todo with the other.
slugking50
All-Star
bibbyweb said:
No thats just what want you to believe : evil laugh :
Webb really only has a shot at a AS spot. Brad hasnt been good enough. He as too unselfish to get the stats needed and Mike has been pretty good but there are other guards that will get the nod over him.
Id like to see webb accept then say my knee hurts I have to pass.
Lots of time for rest... Boy can we use it.
love_them_kings
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KP said:Just out of curiosity how'd you pick your name?? Mike has hit a lot of shots in a lot of big games against a lot of good teams. And If you gotta pick one guy (I hate the whole Peja vs. Webb thing) I think I'll go with the guy whose made about 8 in the last few years, even though "regular season games" don't count... I think I'm 4cwebb on this one.
I agree with you. Because making that shot is about confidence and WANTING to take the shot, and I think Webb has proven that. Bibby also has what it takes to make the shot. I probably wouldn't go to Pedja just because Pedja shoots much better when he's open, and no team is going to leave him open in the final seconds.
iheartBrad
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like i said earlier in this thread...i really think the coaches are gonna surprise some people...we all shall see on Tuesday...i cannot wait
Gregorius
G-League
Geoff said:
Before this year I had always thought Bibby was better than Nash, but this year with Nash up in Phoenix running that fast break offense and getting those crazy assist numbers, I'm not so sure.
Assists are the best way to gain respect as a point guard, and Nash has the upper hand on that, but I think Bibby could be averaging around that amount if he were on a different team that didn't run the high post offence, maybe. However, have you guys noticed that Bibby's assist number in recent games have been going up a lot? He is getting around 10 almost routinely now.
uolj
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4cwebb is right, in my opinion. Webber is now very capable of coming through in the clutch. But that doesn't mean he has a better chance than the best shooter in the league at hitting the open three. Webber has missed some clutch shots also.4cwebb said:
Don't get me wrong, I still want Chris with the ball making the decision to pass or shoot in the final seconds, but if Bibby takes the hand-off, drives the lane, sees Webber and Stojakovic each standing alone in three point land, and can only pass to one of them, I'm preferring Peja. Good thing about this team, though, is I'd expect either one of them to make it.
allrightythen
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I know this isn't this topic of the thread, but I think its nice to be able to argue about who you would want to take the last second shot and the team and your choices are Webb, Bibby, and Peja. Thats just scratching the surface. The other two guys that would most likely be out there are Miller and Mobely and they are terrible shooters either. I like our chances in any close game. To follow the topic though, I think would be satisfied with any of the five getting a good shot, after all thats the reason we have all those shooters, so it doesn't matter all that much who shoots, as long as they are open. For some reason my gut points to Bibby though, if I had to run a play for one guy, it would be him.
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Its fun being a Kings fan right now!
Andriod_KiNg
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Why is it Pejda Vs Webber ? Arnt they on the same team... i hate people who like a team because of one player..
SacKings384
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gangdogu said:
He was never the same after...
love_them_kings
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nAj jAn™ said:
I assume so??
Aren't you forgetting something???
It often helps these days to be from a different country...
Lets not forget that an estimated 30k+ people from serbia-montenegro voted for peja last year. Assuming that there were at least half as many this year (but there is probably more like 40k this year) webb beats Peja in votes if you are not counting peja's homeland votes.This is the same type of thing that got Yao Ming the starting spot at center the last couple of years...
Outside of the USA Homeland people always vote for their own citizens, even if they stink. I'm not saying this is unfair. I would do the same thing, it is just something to keep in mind if you are using this vote-count to judge who is better or more deserving.
Ha, On a side note. I just noticed that Webber's 3p% is higher than Peja's so far this year.
.421 vs .390
It often helps these days to be from a different country...
Lets not forget that an estimated 30k+ people from serbia-montenegro voted for peja last year. Assuming that there were at least half as many this year (but there is probably more like 40k this year) webb beats Peja in votes if you are not counting peja's homeland votes.This is the same type of thing that got Yao Ming the starting spot at center the last couple of years...
Outside of the USA Homeland people always vote for their own citizens, even if they stink. I'm not saying this is unfair. I would do the same thing, it is just something to keep in mind if you are using this vote-count to judge who is better or more deserving.
Ha, On a side note. I just noticed that Webber's 3p% is higher than Peja's so far this year.
.421 vs .390
piksi
Hall of Famer
6th said:Well, you must admit that we have many many more players to choose from. That makes it pretty darn impartial by comparison, now doesn't it?
impartial by comparison would work if the people who vote would not have a favorite team or player. But in that case Phoenix would have at least one starter and so would the Kings.
6th
Homer Fan Since 1985
piksi said:
true enough
They should have a few fans from each team (real fans of the game) put in votes for the all-star players. Cut out these millions of garbage votes.
Oh, and if your fav team is in the West, you can only vote for West all-start. I know I would vote for who I thought were the best players......rather than worrying about my own team's players. Why? I WANT TO WIN!!
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