Pedja Poll

Would you want Pedja as our SF next year?

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 22.2%
  • No

    Votes: 105 77.8%

  • Total voters
    135

AleksandarN

Starter
Ok just so I can get an understanding. Without going to any contract details. Would you want Pedja starting as our SF next year?

P.S. this would have nothing to do with the size of the contract he would have just Pedja as a player.
 
No! I'm sick and tired of Peja. I wouldn't even want him here if he played with us for free. I always supported him while he was here. Even last year when he traded Webber and he still played like a Queen. But I am now at the end of my rope with him.
 
well, if it were for free, sure...as a back-up. i support him as a king and for what he's given us, but i am disappointed in his seeming lack of energy and enthusiasm for the game. he's just going thru the motions.
 
If the mid-90s was the era of great centers (Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, etc.), the late 90s the era of great shooting guards (Jordan, Mitch, Kobe, Iverson), and the early 00s the era of the great power forwards (Garnett, Webber, Duncan, Nowitzki), the late 00s are going to be the era of the great small forwards.

As I mentioned in a previous thread, there was hardly a good small forward in the league three years ago and Peja's athletic deficiencies didn't hurt the Kings all that much since they had their shooting-guard stopper. Now you have LeBron, Carmelo, Artest, Pearce, McGrady, Dunleavy (kidding), Kirilenko, Gerald Wallace, Luol Deng, Prince, Richard Jefferson... almost none of those guys were either in the league or playing consistently at small forward in 2002. Now it's arguably the most dominant position in the league. Not only that, you have Marvin Harrison and the Atlanta bunch developing, you have Rudy Gay and Adam Morrison coming in this year.

Instead of Peja's lack of athleticism only hurting the Kings once in a great while, it's going to become an every night issue. So this is a long way of saying I don't think Peja is or should be the Kings small forward of the future.

Of course, I feel the same way about Mike Bibby and the new crop of Chris Paul/TJ Ford speedsters, but that's another post....
 
Well, I want to see him traded so I can cheer for another team.
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So I'm voting "No."
 
I voted "no" because there was no "maybe".

With the current roster I would not want Pedja here. If KG was our PF than I would love to have Pedja as our starting SF.

Same can be said about Brad and Mike.
 
No....hes my favorite player and kings are my favorite team but for benefit of both, quiet divorce (reasonable sign and trade) would be the best scenario....speaking about trade I would trade biby in a sec....let’s say for arenas if is there any chance
 
nbrans said:
Now you have LeBron, Carmelo, Artest, Pearce, McGrady, Dunleavy (kidding), Kirilenko, Gerald Wallace, Luol Deng, Prince, Richard Jefferson... almost none of those guys were either in the league or playing consistently at small forward in 2002.

Isn't there a pretty good SF in PHX too :)

Good point. I say move Wells down to SF and trade Peja for a Defensive-minded SG.
 
DavisAggie said:
Isn't there a pretty good SF in PHX too :)

Good point. I say move Wells down to SF and trade Peja for a Defensive-minded SG.

And in LA (Maggette) and in Washington (Butler)... the list goes on and on!
 
Well I am a bit surprised at the outcome so far in this poll(actually now that I think about this season I am not surprised). What players could be had for Pedja? Meaning who do we replace him with. Also what do you not like about his game that make you think he is not right for this team?
 
AleksandarN said:
Well I am a bit surprised at the outcome so far in this poll(actually now that I think about this season I am not surprised). What players could be had for Pedja? Meaning who do we replace him with. Also what do you not like about his game that make you think he is not right for this team?

he's soft, dispassionate, inconsistent, and complacent. he cannot create his own shot, he has no mid range game, and he misses a healthy percentage of his layups. he's supposedly one of the kings better defenders, yet he is a blatant liability on defense. he's one of the best free throw shooters in the league, but fails to get to the free throw line more than a couple of times a game (usually on technical foul shots). he's strong, but at 6'10, 230 lbs he uses neither his size or his strength to his advantage. he refuses to pursue rebounds and loose balls on a consistent basis. he never plays well in more than one half, and disappears by the fourth quarter of most games. and, most of all, he lacks the desire, drive, and heart of a champion.

that enough for ya? ;)
 
AleksandarN said:
Well I am a bit surprised at the outcome so far in this poll(actually now that I think about this season I am not surprised). What players could be had for Pedja? Meaning who do we replace him with. Also what do you not like about his game that make you think he is not right for this team?

I can't speak for others, but I've really been someone who defended Peja on the board, and I don't think his struggles this season are entirely his own doing. He doesn't have people on the team who play to his strengths anymore, who look to set him up for his shot. He doesn't have Vlade. Miller and Bibby are looking first for their own shots, and the newcomers don't yet have a feel for where Peja likes to get the ball to score, nor are they as good passers as Doug and Webber. But still, it's a measure of Peja's abilities as a player that he can't get his own shot and depends entirely on others, nor does he demand the ball. Peja proved he can be a very successful centerpiece in Webber's absence when the entire team is focused on setting him up, but that team is gone and so is Peja.

But more importantly, Peja is not the small forward of the future. He doesn't have the athleticism to compete night in and night out with the best small forwards in the league, he's going to get more and more one-dimensional as time goes on and what athletic ability he does have deteriorates, and he's always going to be a matchup problem. He's just not the type of player I would want to lock up to a long term deal unless it were exceedingly reasonable, like SAR's.
 
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No...simply not effective enough when he's reduced to a role player, and quite frankly a waste of his talent too. A trade would benefit both parties in this one, as it would give the Kings an opportunity to sign a player whose game doesn't depend on others and who can bring it the whole 48, while Peja would also benefit in a new uniform with fresh confidence.

The game we're playing right now does not take advantage of any of Peja's strengths. I think it's all a plan to slowly get away from a system that's been used for nearly a decade, which does not work in Peja's favor, and which IMO is going to result in Peja being traded.
 
only if we could get him for about $100 per game......his stock is much higher than he is worth at this point. He will be gone.....it is sad because he is a great part of SacKings history.
 
Stojakovic said:
No...simply not effective enough when he's reduced to a role player, and quite frankly a waste of his talent too. A trade would benefit both parties in this one, as it would give the Kings an opportunity to sign a player whose game doesn't depend on others and who can bring it the whole 48, while Peja would also benefit in a new uniform with fresh confidence.

The game we're playing right now does not take advantage of any of Peja's strengths. I think it's all a plan to slowly get away from a system that's been used for nearly a decade, which does not work in Peja's favor, and which IMO is going to result in Peja being traded.


I agree. IMO peja would fit on a team where he had a good inside player like a duncan or a jermaine/shaquille o'neal. That way he'd get a lot of open looks.
 
I don't want him here because his heart is obviously not in staying and because I want to see our frontcourt become more physical and defensive minded.
 
I voted no. I think Pedja needs a different team. The truth, tho, is I could answer no to this question about a lot of our players right now. But its all dependent on who they would be replaced with. This question amounts to who would I definitely keep on the current roster. As far as I'm concerned, they can change the current player at any position, as long as it means improvement. Would I miss the individual player? Yes, especially any of our core 3, but that's an emotional attachment. At this point, can't let that stand in the way of improvement.
 
kennadog said:
I voted no. I think Pedja needs a different team. The truth, tho, is I could answer no to this question about a lot of our players right now. But its all dependent on who they would be replaced with. This question amounts to who would I definitely keep on the current roster. As far as I'm concerned, they can change the current player at any position, as long as it means improvement. Would I miss the individual player? Yes, especially any of our core 3, but that's an emotional attachment. At this point, can't let that stand in the way of improvement.

I agree 100% percent
 
his heart is not in not because he hates sacramento but ... maybe ?

because he doesnt like his teammates because they dont trust him (they dont pass to him the way they used before) and wnat him outta there ... the chemistry is not there and it can have a huge effect on players .... specially someone like peja who doesnt have the tuffness to be the leader in a corrupted team
 
mike can have a bad game but ... the team still looks to set him some screens so he can shoot the ball, otherwise he forces

the same does not go for Peja and he might get discouraged because of that
 
nbrans said:
I can't speak for others, but I've really been someone who defended Peja on the board, and I don't think his struggles this season are entirely his own doing. He doesn't have people on the team who play to his strengths anymore, who look to set him up for his shot. He doesn't have Vlade. Miller and Bibby are looking first for their own shots, and the newcomers don't yet have a feel for where Peja likes to get the ball to score, nor are they as good passers as Doug and Webber. But still, it's a measure of Peja's abilities as a player that he can't get his own shot and depends entirely on others, nor does he demand the ball. Peja proved he can be a very successful centerpiece in Webber's absence when the entire team is focused on setting him up, but that team is gone and so is Peja.
These are all excuses. Players work on the weakest parts of their game in the offseason to get better. It's obvious he hasn't.. thus the results.
 
Padrino said:
he's soft, dispassionate, inconsistent, and complacent. he cannot create his own shot, he has no mid range game, and he misses a healthy percentage of his layups. he's supposedly one of the kings better defenders, yet he is a blatant liability on defense. he's one of the best free throw shooters in the league, but fails to get to the free throw line more than a couple of times a game (usually on technical foul shots). he's strong, but at 6'10, 230 lbs he uses neither his size or his strength to his advantage. he refuses to pursue rebounds and loose balls on a consistent basis. he never plays well in more than one half, and disappears by the fourth quarter of most games. and, most of all, he lacks the desire, drive, and heart of a champion.

that enough for ya? ;)

that pretty much sums it up, i agree totally and this comes from somebody who used to call Peja his favorite player
 
Depends on what type of team we have. As things stand right now the answer is no.

If you had a team of similar maked up to the Kings team of the past 5 years then I would definetly want Pedja as a SF on this team at a reasonable money of course.

The way I see it at the moment, its best for all concerned to part way and look for other opportunities. Pedja's heart doesn't appear to be in Sacramento. I think he will be traded by the deadline unless of course Petrie becomes a magician that pulls of the moves that make Pedja integral part of this team because it gets him to be more effective.

He might suck this season but don't mistake his crappy season for his lack of ability. Pedja will sign with someone that will fit his game and he will once again become a deadly shooter we are used to seeing. Due to his deficiencies he simply cannot be that sort of player with the current Kings team. The way team is constructed doesn't suit Pedja.

What we need to do is either trade Pedja before the deadline for a piece that fits (and this holds true for every player on this team) or we trade and assemble a team that will require Pedja as key ingridients in the mix (like he was all those years with the Kings).

Having said that, there comes a time when its best for everyone to move on and IMHO that time has come for Pedja and the Kings. I think both parties will be better off for it.
 
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