PDA doing a Reddit AMA

ugh, just a sea of dumb questions and questions that we know PDA can't answer.

for example, some guy asked PDA to rate ben mclemore's rookie season. why?! we all know ben sucked, and we all know that PDA can't say that! all that question does is waste his time and clutter the page.

there's a question that asks what his favorite food is!!! :mad::mad::mad:
 
Actually found his answer that Gay was someone they had targeted for a while as a potential fit with Cousins interesting, as it goes against the opportunistic/spur of the moment narrative around the deal at the time.

Edit to add: here's the full quote

Rudy was someone early on who we identified as being a good fit for our team and specifically alongside DeMarcus. In general trades develop over time and there is an early conversation which leads to subsequent talks. Many times the first conversation may appear to be a dead-end but then ultimately becomes a trade. The Rudy Gay trade followed a similar path.
 
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Where do you see the question and answers

The top part is kind of an intro. Scroll down a bit, and look for the questions with questions that have his name highlighted right afterwards.

Definitely a fan of One Speed in East Sac, Mulvaney's and sometimes Corti Brothers for lunch but there are so many great places here to eat. I'm taking suggestions for other places if anyone has some recommendations.
 
The CONSTANT front office message of passing/shooting needs is starting to wear on me.

It's defense. They have to know that. It's been defense for 5+ years now.

So my question is, are they blind? or are they setting us up for improved passing/shooting this offseason because they know they can't improve the defense drastically yet. So when the defense sucks again next year, it won't be considered a front office failure. Defense will be the need next time around?

I don't know. I don't love it though.
 
The CONSTANT front office message of passing/shooting needs is starting to wear on me.

It's defense. They have to know that. It's been defense for 5+ years now.

So my question is, are they blind? or are they setting us up for improved passing/shooting this offseason because they know they can't improve the defense drastically yet. So when the defense sucks again next year, it won't be considered a front office failure. Defense will be the need next time around?

I don't know. I don't love it though.

the kings' new owner came over from oakland, where they've only just begun to get out from under the weight of don nelson's notorious late-career aversion to defense. the kings' new gm came over from denver, one of the few teams prone to giving points away to the opposition more often than the kings in the last half-decade. i'd like to believe that mike malone's highly-touted defensive pedigree is presence enough to get the job done, but a union of basketball minds groomed primarily by the warriors and the nuggets was simply never going to be a ringing endorsement of the defensive side of the ball. as ecstatic as i am that the kings remain in sacramento, the new regime has much left to prove (and they also certainly have time left to do it)...
 
I saw that as well and had an inner groan. In his defense, we are bad at shooting and playmaking everything.
We do need shooting and playmaking, however it's certainly not at the top of the list. We lost far more games this year due to our poor defense. We put up plenty of points most nights, whether we have that great an offensive system or not, or having the required shooters or not, or enough playmaking or not. When we score 102, 105, 108, etc, and still lose by double digits, it's not offense which is the problem.

However, someone with his eyes set on creating Den 2.0 or another version of GS, would think that. Maybe we do end up with the defenders we need, we'll find out soon enough, but previous actions as well as comments from PDA seriously lead me to believe he doesn't value, nor understand the importance of the defensive end. The hope is Malone appears to be on the opposite end of the spectrum and wants some real defenders in here and that he can talk some sense into PDA.
 
Actually found his answer that Gay was someone they had targeted for a while as a potential fit with Cousins interesting, as it goes against the opportunistic/spur of the moment narrative around the deal at the time.

Edit to add: here's the full quote

This is an answer in which there needs to be a followup question: Why? I'd like to know a lot more of the why's, not as much of the what's. It gives you more of an insight into where he is heading. Personally, I don't see the great synergy with Cousins and Gay. Both are iso players, Gay moreso than Cousins. Neither is an elite defender, so they don't complement each other defensively. Gay isn't known for moving with the ball or for his three point shooting, both of which would complement Cousins more than his post-up and iso game. So far I just haven't seen the two of them being more than a mixture of isolated elements rather than a compound that is greater than the sum of their parts. I would love to hear from our GM what he is seeing that I am not.
 
This is an answer in which there needs to be a followup question: Why? I'd like to know a lot more of the why's, not as much of the what's. It gives you more of an insight into where he is heading. Personally, I don't see the great synergy with Cousins and Gay. Both are iso players, Gay moreso than Cousins. Neither is an elite defender, so they don't complement each other defensively. Gay isn't known for moving with the ball or for his three point shooting, both of which would complement Cousins more than his post-up and iso game. So far I just haven't seen the two of them being more than a mixture of isolated elements rather than a compound that is greater than the sum of their parts. I would love to hear from our GM what he is seeing that I am not.

Oh I certainly agree, and have my own doubts at times whether a team with Cousins and Gay as its top 2 can go very far. But even in a world of NBA 3.0, those are the questions you usually don't get answered.
 
This is an answer in which there needs to be a followup question: Why? I'd like to know a lot more of the why's, not as much of the what's. It gives you more of an insight into where he is heading. Personally, I don't see the great synergy with Cousins and Gay. Both are iso players, Gay moreso than Cousins. Neither is an elite defender, so they don't complement each other defensively. Gay isn't known for moving with the ball or for his three point shooting, both of which would complement Cousins more than his post-up and iso game. So far I just haven't seen the two of them being more than a mixture of isolated elements rather than a compound that is greater than the sum of their parts. I would love to hear from our GM what he is seeing that I am not.

that's because you're attempting to view each player in an individual vacuum, as opposed to viewing them through the prism of their pairing. demarcus cousins and rudy gay have less than a full season of experience playing together, and there were plenty of encouraging signs in the wake of gay's arrival, regardless of whether or not you're willing to acknowledge them. many of the kings' offensive problems after the trade stemmed from attempting to shove three ball dominant 20 ppg scorers into the same starting line-up, and also from coach malone's fairly unimaginative offensive system. but when cousins and gay were able to establish a bit of a two-man game utilizing cousins' diverse skill set, it often resulted in assisted baskets (scroll to 0:10, 1:30, or even 0:28 here for examples of how cousins makes gay's life easier)...

while gay and cousins tend to be isolation-oriented, they are certainly above-average passers at their respective positions, and are certainly capable of creating space and open looks for each other, given a confident offensive system and the proper set of role players around them to help execute it (passers, cutters, three-point shooters, etc.). on the subject of outside shooting, the kings can find additional help from three just about anywhere (and may, indeed, find it eventually in the development of ben mclemore). i mean, apart from stephen curry's and damian lillard's ungodly touch from outside, high percentage three-point shooting tends to be the province of role players. you don't necessarily need your primary scorers to light it up from outside. you more often need them to get to the rim, post-up, draw the attention of defenses, etc...

as popular as spacing the floor with tons of outside shooting has become, i think people tend to forget that simply surrounding a dominant big man with shooters has yielded exactly zero championships. overall, the long-term success of such teams is varied. dwight howard himself has only been to the finals once, and he lost. demarcus cousins is certainly a more gifted offensive talent than dwight, but he needs help from a #2 on the wing who can create. rudy gay's post-up game is very strong, as are his midrange game and his ability to attack the rim. those qualities can create some dynamic situations on the court, with demarcus and without. rudy gets into trouble with some of those long two's he likes to shoot, but again, that can be reigned in with systemic help from coach malone and a stable of role players who are more equipped to help move the ball and less inclined to shoot it (which may be why we've heard less enthusiasm from PDA about re-signing isaiah thomas, which doesn't speak to his perception of thomas' talent level, but rather, how the puzzle fits together)...

as for what PDA has to say about "the why's" of trading for rudy gay, he's already given some indication:

Pete D'Allesandro said:
I read everything that everyone reads. We have our processes too and we see things differently. That's just the nature of that ever-growing and ever-expanding game. We look at [Rudy Gay] differently than maybe others do. I feel like a lot of times with certain players, it's where they're getting the ball, it's where they're scoring, it's the position they're put in. And I think we have a good idea, we're talking as a staff a little bit, we have a good idea of what positions that we'd like to put him in.

it really shouldn't be all that hard to decipher "the why" behind PDA's line of thinking above; and there have been other instances where the kings organization has made it clear that they view rudy gay as a #2 scorer, as a player who can take some of the heat off of demarcus cousins, and one who becomes much more efficient at a decreased usage rate. he still take a few too many inefficient long two-point jumpers for my liking, but given time and the benefit of both additional experience and chemistry with the kings and with DMC, there are certainly enough positives for the team to move forward with rudy, particularly if he decides to opt-in to the final year of his contract. then it becomes a lengthier try-out to determine just how much potential a pairing of cousins and gay really has...
 
I think PDA and his staff see the same things we do, and more. The words are as apt to be smoke as the true picture. In my view the most important need, and most obvious, is a "Doug Christie" at the 2. It would make the most and quickest difference. PDA knows it but I don't expect to hear it from him. In fact I don't expect any clarity from them until after the draft and the Gay/IT issues are resolved.
 
while gay and cousins tend to be isolation-oriented, they are certainly above-average passers at their respective positions, and are certainly capable of creating space and open looks for each other, given a confident offensive system and the proper set of role players around them to help execute it (passers, cutters, three-point shooters, etc.). on the subject of outside shooting, the kings can find additional help from three just about anywhere (and may, indeed, find it eventually in the development of ben mclemore). i mean, apart from stephen curry's and damian lillard's ungodly touch from outside, high percentage three-point shooting tends to be the province of role players. you don't necessarily need your primary scorers to light it up from outside. you more often need them to get to the rim, post-up, draw the attention of defenses, etc...

as popular as spacing the floor with tons of outside shooting has become, i think people tend to forget that simply surrounding a dominant big man with shooters has yielded exactly zero championships. overall, the long-term success of such teams is varied. dwight howard himself has only been to the finals once, and he lost. demarcus cousins is certainly a more gifted offensive talent than dwight, but he needs help from a #2 on the wing who can create. rudy gay's post-up game is very strong, as are his midrange game and his ability to attack the rim. those qualities can create some dynamic situations on the court, with demarcus and without. rudy gets into trouble with some of those long two's he likes to shoot, but again, that can be reigned in with systemic help from coach malone and a stable of role players who are more equipped to help move the ball and less inclined to shoot it (which may be why we've heard less enthusiasm from PDA about re-signing isaiah thomas, which doesn't speak to his perception of thomas' talent level, but rather, how the puzzle fits together)...

as for what PDA has to say about "the why's" of trading for rudy gay, he's already given some indication:



it really shouldn't be all that hard to decipher "the why" behind PDA's line of thinking above; and there have been other instances where the kings organization has made it clear that they view rudy gay as a #2 scorer, as a player who can take some of the heat off of demarcus cousins, and one who becomes much more efficient at a decreased usage rate. he still take a few too many inefficient long two-point jumpers for my liking, but given time and the benefit of both additional experience and chemistry with the kings and with DMC, there are certainly enough positives for the team to move forward with rudy, particularly if he decides to opt-in to the final year of his contract. then it becomes a lengthier try-out to determine just how much potential a pairing of cousins and gay really has...

Rudy Gay is absolutely not an above average passer. He is incapable of playing a point-forward position. He is at times a turnover machine because of his isolation tendencies.

What is troubling to me about Gay's play last year is how it degraded from the time he arrived until the end of the season. There seemed to be a fairly steady regression, for reasons I do not know. There seemed to be more iso ball at the end of the season than the beginning. My hope at the very beginning of Gay's tenure was that with time the iso ball tendencies would evolve to more of an integration into a team concept, but just the opposite happened. So what is the positive view of Gay going forward? That we HOPE that Malone's training camp will yield an offense in which Gay is a synergistic part of the whole instead of an independent actor. I find it troubling that the cost of seeing whether that hope is realized could be $19 million.
 
Rudy Gay is absolutely not an above average passer. He is incapable of playing a point-forward position. He is at times a turnover machine because of his isolation tendencies.

What is troubling to me about Gay's play last year is how it degraded from the time he arrived until the end of the season. There seemed to be a fairly steady regression, for reasons I do not know. There seemed to be more iso ball at the end of the season than the beginning. My hope at the very beginning of Gay's tenure was that with time the iso ball tendencies would evolve to more of an integration into a team concept, but just the opposite happened. So what is the positive view of Gay going forward? That we HOPE that Malone's training camp will yield an offense in which Gay is a synergistic part of the whole instead of an independent actor. I find it troubling that the cost of seeing whether that hope is realized could be $19 million.

Just because you don't see him as a point-forward, it doesn't mean he is not an above average passer.

He has shown the ability to make great passes and setup his teammates very well. The question is not whether he is an above average passer. He is. He has that skill in his tool bag. The question is how often will he take that skill out of his tool bag and use it.

A similar analogy would be saying a player isn't a good shooter because he rarely shoots the ball (even though this player knocks down the majority of his jump shots when he does take the shot).

Again, passing is a skill Gay has in his arsenal. It just depends on whether he will use it.
 
Just because you don't see him as a point-forward, it doesn't mean he is not an above average passer.

He has shown the ability to make great passes and setup his teammates very well. The question is not whether he is an above average passer. He is. He has that skill in his tool bag. The question is how often will he take that skill out of his tool bag and use it.

A similar analogy would be saying a player isn't a good shooter because he rarely shoots the ball (even though this player knocks down the majority of his jump shots when he does take the shot).

Again, passing is a skill Gay has in his arsenal. It just depends on whether he will use it.

But Gay did pass the ball - to the other team. If Gay does have in his arsenal the ability to pass to his own teamates, he didn't exhibit it much this year. There was a lot of hoopla before Gay got here about him being a point forward, which would go hand in hand with him making others better, but I haven't read that sentiment much on this board of late.
 
But Gay did pass the ball - to the other team.

Just because you turn the ball over, doesn't mean you passed it to the other team.

If Gay does have in his arsenal the ability to pass to his own teamates, he didn't exhibit it much this year.

That is not true. There were many instances this year, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

There was a lot of hoopla before Gay got here about him being a point forward, which would go hand in hand with him making others better, but I haven't read that sentiment much on this board of late.

Gay has the skills to be a point forward (handles, passing, etc.); however, his mentality doesn't jive with a point forward. Similar to how Thomas' mentality doesn't jive with a starting PG role.
 
But Gay did pass the ball - to the other team. If Gay does have in his arsenal the ability to pass to his own teamates, he didn't exhibit it much this year. There was a lot of hoopla before Gay got here about him being a point forward, which would go hand in hand with him making others better, but I haven't read that sentiment much on this board of late.

I can honestly say I didn't see one person say that about Gay before he got here. Now maybe one or two did say that, but it certainly wasn't an opinion that was widely held, as you suggested.
 
Rudy Gay is absolutely not an above average passer. He is incapable of playing a point-forward position. He is at times a turnover machine because of his isolation tendencies.

one needn't be a "point-forward" to be an above average passer. "point forwards" are elite passers at their position, and i made no such claim of rudy gay. however, when given the opportunity, rudy has proven to be more than capable of shouldering some responsibility as a playmaker for others. not all. not most. some. and that's useful on a team where demarcus cousins can likewise shoulder some of the playmaking responsibility. that these two players are above average passers is a positive quality to harness going forward, considering the strides this team needs to make with respect to ball movement...
 
one needn't be a "point-forward" to be an above average passer. "point forwards" are elite passers at their position, and i made no such claim of rudy gay. however, when given the opportunity, rudy has proven to be more than capable of shouldering some responsibility as a playmaker for others. not all. not most. some. and that's useful on a team where demarcus cousins can likewise shoulder some of the playmaking responsibility. that these two players are above average passers is a positive quality to harness going forward, considering the strides this team needs to make with respect to ball movement...

That's not where he excelled though. Rudy got REALLY turnover prone when we put more ball-handling and playmaking responsibility on him. Same thing happened in Toronto as well. When we set him in good spots and told him to just go score, he responded with some of the most efficient play of his career.

I forget who made the comparison, but a modern day James Worthy actually makes a ton of sense. A guy who can get out in transition, make tough shots, and beat you down in the post, but not a guy you really want to rely on for a lot of playmaking and ball-handling duties.
 
That's not where he excelled though. Rudy got REALLY turnover prone when we put more ball-handling and playmaking responsibility on him. Same thing happened in Toronto as well. When we set him in good spots and told him to just go score, he responded with some of the most efficient play of his career.

I forget who made the comparison, but a modern day James Worthy actually makes a ton of sense. A guy who can get out in transition, make tough shots, and beat you down in the post, but not a guy you really want to rely on for a lot of playmaking and ball-handling duties.

Its not just talent but fit as well. In the modern NBA you need to have a penetrator who can consistently get into the paint from the perimeter and create for himself or teammates. Without IT, the Kings would lack that element. Rudy's not that guy. He's not good enough of a passer and his handle is too weak. He's more of a beat-down scoring SF in the mid-low block, a modern day James Worthy. Sessions is a significant step below IT as a penetrator with an eye on scoring and passing, and thus the team would be a significant step behind in their ability to challenge defenses.

Gay and Cousins don't need to be set up. This is the biggest myth being perpetuated around. What they need is someone on the perimeter who can put pressure on defenses through penetration. Either find a better penetrator than IT or don't waste your time.
 
I can honestly say I didn't see one person say that about Gay before he got here. Now maybe one or two did say that, but it certainly wasn't an opinion that was widely held, as you suggested.
That's actually the first time I can recall reading that. Kingster just makes stuff up sometimes, you get used to it.

There was also nothing approaching a steady regression in Rudy's stats or game as the season progressed. There just wasn't. Rudy is about as steady as they come. It's downright spooky.

Check it out. Rudy is who he is. And he's consistent. The only blip is the crazy .575 fg % in January and a big turnover march. And a really bad shooting November of course. But nothing late in the season jumps at me as any kind of regression.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/3005/rudy-gay
 
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