Old Trade Thread (no longer need to post all trades here)
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SK23
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Kings113 said:
I'l take Jeol Pryzbilla... The guy is a monster when it comes to rebounding and shot blocking. Who cares if he can't score. Shareef and the rest of our players will take care of that with their ability to shoot from the perimeter or play inside the paint.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
I would have been down for a Joel for Brad trade before we got Ron but not so much now. We NEED Brad now more than ever because of his ability to spread the floor, oh yeah, and that passing stuff he does too.
Joel and Brad I like.
Joel for Brad, I don't like so much as I would have 2 weeks ago.
Joel and Brad I like.
Joel for Brad, I don't like so much as I would have 2 weeks ago.
Yes. I'd ultimately do a deal for one of them if the trade was on the table. Especially Pryzbilla. Doesn't necessarily have to involve Brad, but it probably would.
First though, I'd like to see if/when Artest can get Brad back to being tougher than recently. I really liked that area in 03-04, and would be great to see something close to that again. He's only shown flashes of it since. Remember the 2004 playoffs, especially the Minny series...
First though, I'd like to see if/when Artest can get Brad back to being tougher than recently. I really liked that area in 03-04, and would be great to see something close to that again. He's only shown flashes of it since. Remember the 2004 playoffs, especially the Minny series...
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SLAB
Hall of Famer
People are going to cringe at the sight of this one, but hear me out!
Kings Get...
Reggie Evans and Danny Fortson
Sonics Get...
Jason Hart and Brian Skinner
Why the Kings do it...
-We get rid of Jason Hart
-We get a really good rebounder who's out of flavor in Seattle
-We get Danny Fortson, who seems to have fallen into the doghouse in Seatle...
I know, everyone is probably like "Danny Fortson!?! Never!" But weren't the same things said for Bonzi Wells, and more recently Ron Artest? Send your malcontents here, and we'll make them work.
The Sonics do it because they get a player who apparently can score 10 points a game if given the minutes, and apparently has shown that he can run a team (Charlotte). We push the "All he needs is a change of scenery" angle at them...They also replace the doghouse pair of Fortson/Evans with a team player in Skinner.
Kings Get...
Reggie Evans and Danny Fortson
Sonics Get...
Jason Hart and Brian Skinner
Why the Kings do it...
-We get rid of Jason Hart
-We get a really good rebounder who's out of flavor in Seattle
-We get Danny Fortson, who seems to have fallen into the doghouse in Seatle...
I know, everyone is probably like "Danny Fortson!?! Never!" But weren't the same things said for Bonzi Wells, and more recently Ron Artest? Send your malcontents here, and we'll make them work.
The Sonics do it because they get a player who apparently can score 10 points a game if given the minutes, and apparently has shown that he can run a team (Charlotte). We push the "All he needs is a change of scenery" angle at them...They also replace the doghouse pair of Fortson/Evans with a team player in Skinner.
I don't know, I really like Reggie Evans, but Fortson's constant attitude on (not talking about toughness or dirty play) and off the court is ridiculous and hasn't changed. Plus his consistent heavy foul trouble. Outside of that I like Fortson. I wasn't around/following for Bonzi's Portland stuff, but I generally know about it, and never thought much at all of his thing w/ Memphis.
Ultimately, I wouldn't do that particular deal, nor do I think the Kings do it. I'd like to get Reggie Evans though.
Ultimately, I wouldn't do that particular deal, nor do I think the Kings do it. I'd like to get Reggie Evans though.
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I've mentioned this before, but now with Bonzi and Ron both on the team we a) have a attitude setting core; b) but we also may have already met our unstable player quota. One more tough guy in the starting lineup would really give us a "flavor", but if said tough guy was nuts, that flavor might be "psycho JailBlazers" rather than just "tough".
Eddie Griffin falls into that same category. Although I might take that chance. Maybe.
Eddie Griffin falls into that same category. Although I might take that chance. Maybe.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Hmmm...
A three way deal that would somehow net us Etan Thomas and Underschieving Antonio Daniels from Washington.
As it stand now, I don't think we have enough to get both of them, but if we could get a third team involved.
I can't for the life of me figure out a three-way deal on RealGM.com, so if someone couldgive me a hand in trying to figure something out...Everyone I tried said "That trade does not exist"
My general idea was something like this.
To Sac...Etan Thomas, Antonio Daniels, and Atlanta's salary filler (Tony Delk?)
To Washinton...Kenny Thomas and Tyronn Lue
To Atlanta...Jason Hart and draft picks.
Sacramento---Gets a banger down low who is underschieing in Washington. Also gets a more than capable backup-PG, who has also been flopping in Washington. However after seeing him with Seattle the other years, he's worth it...The Thomas contracts are pretty similar, so Washington doesnt get scared away by Kenny's.
Washington---Rejuvinates their bench by replacing two underachievers with two players who have been playing relativly well...How will Kenny respond? Who knows, but Tyronn Lue has been pretty good for the Hawks this year.
Atlanta---Gets a backup PG to replace Lue...This PG put up the same type of numbers as Lue with his last bad team, so maybe thats a plus...And draft picks, because this team likes youngins.
New Kings.
PG: Bibby/Daniels/Price
SG: Bonzi/Martin
SF: Artest/Cisco
PF: SAR/E. Thomas/Williamson
C: Miller/ Skinner
A three way deal that would somehow net us Etan Thomas and Underschieving Antonio Daniels from Washington.
As it stand now, I don't think we have enough to get both of them, but if we could get a third team involved.
I can't for the life of me figure out a three-way deal on RealGM.com, so if someone couldgive me a hand in trying to figure something out...Everyone I tried said "That trade does not exist"
My general idea was something like this.
To Sac...Etan Thomas, Antonio Daniels, and Atlanta's salary filler (Tony Delk?)
To Washinton...Kenny Thomas and Tyronn Lue
To Atlanta...Jason Hart and draft picks.
Sacramento---Gets a banger down low who is underschieing in Washington. Also gets a more than capable backup-PG, who has also been flopping in Washington. However after seeing him with Seattle the other years, he's worth it...The Thomas contracts are pretty similar, so Washington doesnt get scared away by Kenny's.
Washington---Rejuvinates their bench by replacing two underachievers with two players who have been playing relativly well...How will Kenny respond? Who knows, but Tyronn Lue has been pretty good for the Hawks this year.
Atlanta---Gets a backup PG to replace Lue...This PG put up the same type of numbers as Lue with his last bad team, so maybe thats a plus...And draft picks, because this team likes youngins.
New Kings.
PG: Bibby/Daniels/Price
SG: Bonzi/Martin
SF: Artest/Cisco
PF: SAR/E. Thomas/Williamson
C: Miller/ Skinner
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Diabeticwonder
Bench
Daniels and Thomas would both help out quite a bit. They both have long contracts through 2010, but they may be worth the gamble if we can get rid of a combination of Hart, KT, Corliss and perhaps some picks.
AleksandarN
Starter
We need Nene or Darko on this team, but do we have the pieces to acquire at least one of them?
Bricklayer said:
Since 2003, what has Eddie Griffin done (talking on a cellphone outside a night-club doesn't count) behavior-wise? Just curious, as I could of just missed it in the news.
I've wanted this guy on the Kings for awhile, and still would. His shooting has fallen off so far, but I don't think that would matter much with us, where it does with the T'Wolves. Maybe with us he'd get his shot back. His rebounding has still been good, and his blocking has been great at #4 in the league with 2.30 per.
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Diabeticwonder
Bench
KT and Corliss would work too. The thing with Daniels is that he can play both the 1 and the 2 and he is the type of player who can bring a lot of energy off the bench. Thomas doesn't care if he scores and he brings an added measure of defense as well. However, I get the feeling that GP is going to stay pat for the rest of the season and see how this hand plays out.Rowdyone said:
Diabeticwonder
Bench
What do you mean "what was talked about between the Kings/Artest and his agent"?Kings113 said:
Etan's getting 5 less minutes than the past two seasons. Didn't realize Etan was 27 though, and indeed about his contract.
Daniels is in his first year with a new team and system, and doesn't have as big a role as he has. He also has a security contract since he's 30/31.
http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/washington.htm
Daniels is in his first year with a new team and system, and doesn't have as big a role as he has. He also has a security contract since he's 30/31.
http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/washington.htm
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whozit
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If the Kings were going to go after E. Thomas and Daniels, I would also prefer sending KT instead of SAR. I think SAR fits in better with the Kings, although KT has the edge in both quickness and rebounding ability. I don't know why Washington would do it unless the viewed both E. Thomas and Daniels as bad fits with "bad" contracts. Maybe then they would take one bad contract back in exchange for two. However, in the parts of Wizard games I have seen, it seemed the main complaint of the Wizards was their defense. I don't see how this trade helps them in that regard unless KT's speed athletism would become good fit.Diabeticwonder said:
It's possible considering too much change too quickly could cause more problems than it solves. However, I would like to think that management would still try to address the obvious needs that are still there.
One bad contract for another. A change of scenery may change perfomances for the better.
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thesanityannex
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I believe Petire told Artest that they would still be bringing in big name players.Diabeticwonder said:
thesanityannex said:
It was the Maloofs/Petrie, I think, and don't think Stevens said that (unless you're talking about something else), but "not going to go into rebuilding mode, and will be dealing still". It was like that, and was a part of that subject during the interview (agreement on coming to Sac).
I can't find a transcript of the interview anywhere.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
27 ain't old people!
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
SacTownKid said:
No its not. But you wouldn't, for instance, get a guy at 27 and expect much growth from him. Kind of what you see is what you get. In Etan's case -- liek him a lot. But the knee would be the larger concern. Great motor, great muscle. But is the knee going to rob him of his athletic edge?
GoGoGadget
All-Star
SacTownKid said:
You're right.
27 is the absolute definition of youth and vitality.
At least, it is until early June.
DocHolliday
Starter
Kings113 said:
If that was actually said. That's exciting use. Also, Mike Lamb was saying in an article that just came out today in SI that The Maloofs and Petrie expressed in the article to have Adelman be the coach of the future. But, they also understand that he was miffed at The Maloofs about the Phil Jackson thing. So, it sounds like that the organization will try and resign Adelman, it'll be up to Adelman if he wants to stay.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Give him a raise!
