OFFICIAL: Kings trade Webber to Philly!!!!!
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We are not getting any short-term contracts in return. I doubt it will be easy to move Kenny Thomas so we will have a 6'7" PF who is a black hole on offense on our team for 5 years. I would much prefer seeing Webber instead. And we are not getting any young, promising players or draft picks.
So, where do we go from now? I mean we still have Bibby, Peja, Miller and Thomas who are all big contracts so don't expect any big free-agents signings. Also I doubt we will be in the lottery so we can not count on building (or filling our gaps) through draft. I think Kings are bound to mediocrity now.
So, where do we go from now? I mean we still have Bibby, Peja, Miller and Thomas who are all big contracts so don't expect any big free-agents signings. Also I doubt we will be in the lottery so we can not count on building (or filling our gaps) through draft. I think Kings are bound to mediocrity now.
Brad, yes. We all love Darius and he can be effective at times, when he's not on the bench in foul trouble, but it takes more than one guy and more than an average-at best- passer in this system. If we still had DC, then maybe thing would be better becasue we have another distributor. But we don't, meaning Bibby is going to have to more of a PG now and the Kings that we all loved, the Vlade and Chirs passing-esqe Kings are gone.
This trade makes zero sense to me... You're not getting any contract space for the offseason or any foreseeable offseason since even without Webb's contract we're basically over the cap... You don't improve rebounding since Thomas averages 6 rebounds a game, Corliss plays the three and won't fit into our rotation once Peja is healthy, and Skinner averager 3 rebounds.
Given that Rick only uses an eight man rotation and in that rotation we alread have Bibby, Mobely, Miller, Peja, Evans, Songaila. That's six guys. This means that only two of the guys we traded for fit into the rotation and are expected to make up for Webb's productivity. Seeing that Corliss is about 6'5" and is more of a 3 than a 4 and seeing that this trade has made it very very clear who is the premadonna on this team I don't see Corliss getting many minutes. That leaves Kenny Thomas and Brian Skinner? Thomas averages 11 points 6 boards in around 25 minutes a night. Skinner averages 2 points and 4 boards in less. Are these guys defensive stoppers at the four, the only way it makes sense is if they are amazing defenders because the numbers say they certainly don't help our rebounding or scoring.
Finally, everyone seems to think this trade will lead to another trade, but I don't see how. We landed three overpaid, undertalented guys who really don't fit into our system and whose long term contracts make them just as difficult to move as Chris was.... I would hate to think that GP's emotional attachment to Peja was involved in this decision, but I simply do not see any other justification for making the trade than placating Peja who clearly took issue with CWebb. While I am not necessarily a tremendous CWebb fan, making a trade to placate a player is simply a disaster waiting to happen... can anyone make this trade make more sense to me please? Am I misreading the situation???
Given that Rick only uses an eight man rotation and in that rotation we alread have Bibby, Mobely, Miller, Peja, Evans, Songaila. That's six guys. This means that only two of the guys we traded for fit into the rotation and are expected to make up for Webb's productivity. Seeing that Corliss is about 6'5" and is more of a 3 than a 4 and seeing that this trade has made it very very clear who is the premadonna on this team I don't see Corliss getting many minutes. That leaves Kenny Thomas and Brian Skinner? Thomas averages 11 points 6 boards in around 25 minutes a night. Skinner averages 2 points and 4 boards in less. Are these guys defensive stoppers at the four, the only way it makes sense is if they are amazing defenders because the numbers say they certainly don't help our rebounding or scoring.
Finally, everyone seems to think this trade will lead to another trade, but I don't see how. We landed three overpaid, undertalented guys who really don't fit into our system and whose long term contracts make them just as difficult to move as Chris was.... I would hate to think that GP's emotional attachment to Peja was involved in this decision, but I simply do not see any other justification for making the trade than placating Peja who clearly took issue with CWebb. While I am not necessarily a tremendous CWebb fan, making a trade to placate a player is simply a disaster waiting to happen... can anyone make this trade make more sense to me please? Am I misreading the situation???
Now that I have let this sink in, I am going to try and make a rational post. Firts, I love Webber and hate to see him go. With that being said, I believe we are still a championship team. Last year, when Peja was the man when CWebb was injured, we were the best team in the league (Record Wise). When Webb came back, we fell apart. If Peja can stay healthy, we will still be contenders. I think Peja (Who has not been having many 20+ points games this year) will begin to average in normal 24+ points a game. This will replace Chris's 21 points a game average. The three new guys should be able to give us at least 10+ points a game to replace Barnes scoring. Bradley never really played so we don't need to replace his scoring. If anything, this trade makes us much better defensivly and rebounding wise which is what we have all been complaining about all season. I think the next couple of games are a wash, because we will not have a full roster against Dalls and CWebb will be looking to vent some frustratrion on his former team on Saturday. (Which I hope he does) Not to mention, it will take our team a couple of days to get over this. After that, lets watch this team for a week or so before we start questioning GP or hoping he will have an untimely and painful death.
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