OFFICIAL designated Artest announcement thread!
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DocHolliday
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I agree he has to show up and play, but you have to give the guy time to learn the system at the same time.
KingCookie
Bench
Excellent.
Still not official enough for me.
I want physicals passed NOW.
Still not official enough for me.
I want physicals passed NOW.
bigbadred00
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PFFFT!! said:Dominates the boards? Artest is not known for his rebounding. Don't expect a "Peja-like" shooter either. Just think, if you want to contain Kobe, AI, Wade, Manu....and Peja into shooting below their averages, hes your man.
Peja doesn't shoot like he does either, atleast very often. If this was happening during Peja's run two years ago when he was like "hot fire," I would be appalled, but the thing is he isn't. He doesn't shoot the ball like he used to and he's still the average defender and below average rebounder who can't pass and messes up the O when he's on court (atleast lately). Peja is a pure shooter, and since we don't have a dominate big man, or other guards who can defend, we really have no use for the guy. You need shooters, when the Shooters can get open (in 2003 he easily was the best player in the league without the ball, now it's RiP Hamilton), when your contending for a title. Right now we're not, and he's not bringing what we need.
Yes Artest doesn't shoot that well, but when he's on court, he outplays the guy he defensed alot. On 82games, atlesat for the short stints he's played, he is +12.8 net when he's on court, Peja right now is -5,9 when he's on court (net). Peja hasn't been close to being as effective since the 2002 season (+7.1 to Artests 9.1). Peja isn't being effective, therefore we don't really need him anymore. Even if we lose Artest, we're probally better off without Peja. Bibby plays better without him and so do the rookies.
JJ22L
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kennadog said:
The pacer's fan need to realize that it matters what environment hes in also...i mean damn since miller came to sac his assists have doubled...before he was traded was he a bad passer? or was it just his environment..artest will board..bonzi's increased average is proof..an environment thats not filled with agressive rebounders..im hoping artest will thrive..i hear hes a nice guy..just a crazy motha...
PFFFT!!
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kennadog said:
Artest is 6'7", Peja is 6'10".
His highest career average was last year at 6.4 RPG, got 12 rebounds in 3 games as his highest per game.
Pejas highest career average was 6.3 2 years ago, got 17 rebounds was his career best in a game in 2000 (6 years ago).
The numbers show that Peja is in a downfall on rebounding, Artest, at least for now is consistent. However overall the numbers are similar. You don't lose much.
bigbadred00
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kennadog said:
1 was his fault. The other one was partially his fault but that was due to the first one. A guy can only get so many chances on 1 team. Webber only got one with Golden State and wore out his welcome in Washington but found a home with the Kings. Webber was a loose cannon, and calmed down for the most part in Sacremento. He didn't want to come here either, he didn't want to sign an extension, but he did and we were grateful for that.
Maybe will get unlucky with Artest, but most players who were at 1 times bad seeds in other places have been revived in Sacremento. Artest might be crazier than any of the others, but I can tell you 1 thing, he's motivated, he fits a role we need and hopefully he can stay on the court, but as I've said earlier, the Kings are still better without Peja this season than with him. So even if Artest is a complete loony, we're still playing better ball.
kingsfan52miller
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grant said he just talked to peja and its official, and that peja said that this was best for both teams, and thanked the sacramento fans for all the support...BYE PEJA WE WILL MISS YOU
Alacron
Bench
This was a smart move from the Kings' standpoint. What do we have that we risk destroying by bringing in Artest? Uh... chemistry? 
Sure beats losing Peja for nothing, which was going to happen.
Worst case scenario: Artest flips out again and doesn't play for us due to pouting/suspension. How exactly is that worse than having Peja who isn't playing for us due to injury (and when on the court, being less effective than our rookies)?
I never thought Indy'd go for it, but there it is. Peja better put on a healthy face for his physical.
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Sure beats losing Peja for nothing, which was going to happen.
Worst case scenario: Artest flips out again and doesn't play for us due to pouting/suspension. How exactly is that worse than having Peja who isn't playing for us due to injury (and when on the court, being less effective than our rookies)?
I never thought Indy'd go for it, but there it is. Peja better put on a healthy face for his physical.
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Ryle
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bigbadred00 said:
It's kind of odd but I'm not really looking at this as a long term deal. I see this as Artest coming to the Kings to help try and revive their season and hopefully get them into the playoffs while trying to improve his own reputation throughout the league. We will then see what happens this summer.
kingsfan52miller
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yep, i seriously hope adelman and petrie dont walkAlacron said:
DocHolliday
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If Petrie walks because of this that's just plain stupid. Plus while the maloofs may have forced Petrie's hand a bit on this deal, the Maloofs listen to Petrie. If they made this move, Petrie agreed to it as well.
DocHolliday
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Well good or bad, I can guarantee one thing Kings fans. A lot more ESPN highlight reals. We've all complained that the Kings get no attention or highlight time. We will now. Good or bad.
JJ22L
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DocHolliday said:
If the maloofs pushed a trade of peja..thank you..if they pulled in artest...that kinda counteracts it..
I was for artest like no other in the beggininng - now im 50/50
Artest is like a homerun swing..if it connects HOLY CRAP the kings are money..bonzi and artest on a team..are you serious? throw in bibby miller..sar..and now we have our rooks of the bench..
...but ...homerun swings miss..and they miss hard...
its all or nothing in my opinion
the question is..whats up ron ron
home run..
or strike out..
ReinadelosReys
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News10 report says to expect an offical announcement from the Kings this aftenoon
bigbadred00
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JJ22L said:
Let's see-
Sac with Peja-Really bad Team
Sac without Peja-Average Team
Sac with Ron playing-Better than Average Team
Sac without Ron playing-Average Team
Looks like Sac with Peja is the worst team this year. He's playing terribly, and we're better without him. Too bad, since he's on the team and since he's got a reputation, Adelman was going to play the guy. Not the case with Ron. Yes, hopefully he will start, but Rick has no reason to leave him in if he's hurt, if he's playing badly or destroying the team. Rick is very loyal to his players that have played for him for a while, but not loyal to the new guys usually. Rick's loyalty at times to Peja have screwed us this year. Our team has played better without him and now it's time to finally realize that.
JJ22L
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bigbadred00 said:
valid point...you forgot this one
Sac with Ron *itching all the time - disintegrated fan base to the point where only the true fans are left...thusly..uho...there is no more sac in front of the kings logo. This is an all or nothing..this is a huge CHANCE..one that could pay of 10010101 fold..but also one that could tear apart the franchise..starting from the top down if petrie and adelman get fed up.
bibbinator
Bench
Suspend Artest if he pulls too much sh-t. Then we're back to average.
DocHolliday
Starter
JJ22L said:
Again good or bad. He will not disintegrate the fan base. People that I know that followed the Kings hardcore before, but weren't hardcore fans really, haven't followed them as much this year. Now they said at least they have something to be excited about. People will get excited again.
ReinadelosReys
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Peja says its a done deal
http://news10.net/storyfull2.aspx?storyid=15545
Peja-for-Artest Trade a Done Deal, Stojakovic Says
Written for the web by C. Johnson, Internet News Producer
The on-off deal to send Peja Stojakovic to the Indiana Pacers for Ron Artest is a done deal, according to Stojakovic.
Kings announcer Grant Napear told KHTK radio listeners Wednesday afternoon that the Kings' All-Star told him the trade has been completed pending league approval with an announcement to come in the next several hours.
ESPN's Stephen A. Smith is also reporting Artest is boarding a plane for Boston to be available when the Kings face the Celtics Friday.
Earlier today, the controversial Artest denied to The Indianapolis Star that he refused to go to Kings, as he said earlier through his agent. In a phone interview with the newspaper following a meeting with Pacers management today, Artest said, "I'll go anywhere. I just want to get back on the basketball court and start playing again."
It has been a confusing 24 hours in the saga that began Tuesday afternoon with ESPN reporting that Sacramento Kings had traded their Stojakovic for...
http://news10.net/storyfull2.aspx?storyid=15545
Peja-for-Artest Trade a Done Deal, Stojakovic Says
Written for the web by C. Johnson, Internet News Producer
The on-off deal to send Peja Stojakovic to the Indiana Pacers for Ron Artest is a done deal, according to Stojakovic.
Kings announcer Grant Napear told KHTK radio listeners Wednesday afternoon that the Kings' All-Star told him the trade has been completed pending league approval with an announcement to come in the next several hours.
ESPN's Stephen A. Smith is also reporting Artest is boarding a plane for Boston to be available when the Kings face the Celtics Friday.
Earlier today, the controversial Artest denied to The Indianapolis Star that he refused to go to Kings, as he said earlier through his agent. In a phone interview with the newspaper following a meeting with Pacers management today, Artest said, "I'll go anywhere. I just want to get back on the basketball court and start playing again."
It has been a confusing 24 hours in the saga that began Tuesday afternoon with ESPN reporting that Sacramento Kings had traded their Stojakovic for...
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