Official 2009 Free Agent Tracking Thread (merged)

No one seems to want to talk about the fact that Oden may not pan out, meaning that LMA would likely have to play more minutes at center and leaving more room at the PF spot for someone like Millsap.
 
No one seems to want to talk about the fact that Oden may not pan out, meaning that LMA would likely have to play more minutes at center and leaving more room at the PF spot for someone like Millsap.


It might give them flexibility, but they've also got Pryzbilla, and Oden not panning out still would leave them with 48 minutes of shotblocking/rebounding centers. Last season the two combined for 45.3min 14.4pts 15.7rebs and 2.3blks. Throwing on Milsap would just extend the ebarrassment of riches. Also again displays the utter lack of concern money is for those guys. They are going to put together a great team if its monetarily possible.
 
It might give them flexibility, but they've also got Pryzbilla, and Oden not panning out still would leave them with 48 minutes of shotblocking/rebounding centers. Last season the two combined for 45.3min 14.4pts 15.7rebs and 2.3blks. Throwing on Milsap would just extend the ebarrassment of riches. Also again displays the utter lack of concern money is for those guys. They are going to put together a great team if its monetarily possible.

Yeah, but flexibility with Pryzbilla might mean trading him for a SF, perhaps a deal for Battier, for example. But in any case, yeah, they're still trying to stockpile as much as possible. I still think at some point they're going to have to consolidate some of that around Roy and Aldridge.
 
What? Greg Oden not pan out? Who wudda thunk?

My only point is that the much touted #1 consensus pick isn't always quite what people had thought.

:)
 
Yeah, but flexibility with Pryzbilla might mean trading him for a SF, perhaps a deal for Battier, for example. But in any case, yeah, they're still trying to stockpile as much as possible. I still think at some point they're going to have to consolidate some of that around Roy and Aldridge.

I wonder if Pritchard is on the phone trying to get Battier right now.
 
Ike for 2 million would be a steal. He is exploring his options presumably, and the kings are letting the market do its thing. Ike might have to sign with us just to make that 2 million if everyone else doesn't want to offer him more than 1million. I think Ike should stay because we have a new coach and he moved up one spot on the depth chart after Brad Miller/ Mikki departures. He should see a couple more minutes. And he will be a nice measuring stick for HAwes and Thompson
 
Yeah, but flexibility with Pryzbilla might mean trading him for a SF, perhaps a deal for Battier, for example. But in any case, yeah, they're still trying to stockpile as much as possible. I still think at some point they're going to have to consolidate some of that around Roy and Aldridge.


They love Pryz up there, and they should. Unlike certain franchises they understand to win a title you need to dominate the boards and interior defensively. Maybe if Oden starts dominating and demanding 35+ minutes, but even in that case would you then break u the best 1/2 defensive center rotation in the league? Probably not if you wanted to win the title.

Also, not sure when peoiple are going to notice this, but Aldridge is just not that good. And he's getting to the age when he may just never be that good. An 18 and 7 big man that likes to face? What is that, Al Harrington?
 
They love Pryz up there, and they should. Unlike certain franchises they understand to win a title you need to dominate the boards and interior defensively. Maybe if Oden starts dominating and demanding 35+ minutes, but even in that case would you then break u the best 1/2 defensive center rotation in the league? Probably not if you wanted to win the title.

Also, not sure when peoiple are going to notice this, but Aldridge is just not that good. And he's getting to the age when he may just never be that good. An 18 and 7 big man that likes to face? What is that, Al Harrington?

I keep hearing the Roy is "not that good" and that Aldridge is "not that good" but when I look at the teams success..I don't know where else to contribute it to.

Sure Pryz,Outlaw,and Blake played solid -- but I don't think thats it...
 
well roy really isnt that "good" but he plays that smart... he doesnt make many mistakes, thats what makes him as good as he is... he's the type of player that i hope evans will be come, a pg in a sg body. roy and aldridge dont excel at anything but they are pretty good at everything. like slamons without the god complex....

but brick is right aldridge isnt that good, he isnt a superstar player. just a good one on a pretty good team kinda like david west or al harrington..... he'll never be a kg or duncan type of dominate pf...
 
well roy really isnt that "good" but he plays that smart... he doesnt make many mistakes, thats what makes him as good as he is... he's the type of player that i hope evans will be come, a pg in a sg body. roy and aldridge dont excel at anything but they are pretty good at everything. like slamons without the god complex....

but brick is right aldridge isnt that good, he isnt a superstar player. just a good one on a pretty good team kinda like david west or al harrington..... he'll never be a kg or duncan type of dominate pf...

agreed, both LMA and Roy are pretty much as good as they are going to be because they really aren't superstar type players(well LMA isn't for sure)

IMO LMA is a glorified David West, who cares than hes nearly 7' if most of his shots at jumpers and he can only pull down 7.5 boards

Roy is good, but not great, I don't think he can become as dominate as Kobe, LBJ, or Wade -- he just doesn't have the tools.

But theres no doubt in my mind Roy is worth a max contract and if Portland doesn't give it to him someone else will. Also, in a league where Andy Varajao got 50 mill/6 years -- someone might be willing to pay near max money for LMA as well.
 
wow. I cant believe the magic matched. suprise of the week.

I think this, combined with their signing of Bass, means they're gonna go with a traditional 4 instead of surrounding Howard with shooters. They'll probably go Nelson-Carter-Lewis-Bass-Howard. I'm not a fan of Carter but that's still a really nice lineup.
 
I think this, combined with their signing of Bass, means they're gonna go with a traditional 4 instead of surrounding Howard with shooters. They'll probably go Nelson-Carter-Lewis-Bass-Howard. I'm not a fan of Carter but that's still a really nice lineup.


They gave away a very important role player and lost a pretty clutch player in hedo. Should be interesting to see how this new team gels. Should be a good defensive group however.
 
I think this, combined with their signing of Bass, means they're gonna go with a traditional 4 instead of surrounding Howard with shooters. They'll probably go Nelson-Carter-Lewis-Bass-Howard. I'm not a fan of Carter but that's still a really nice lineup.

That's a 10 deep squad when you look at it, too:

Nelson/Johnson
Carter/Reddick
Lewis/Pietrus
Bass/Anderson
Howard/Gortat
 
That's a 10 deep squad when you look at it, too:

Nelson/Johnson
Carter/Reddick
Lewis/Pietrus
Bass/Anderson
Howard/Gortat

Well closer to 8 (Reddick, Anderson?). But it is funny how that oen action, matching Gortat, turned the summer for Orlando from merely swapping Hedo/Lee for Carter and Gortat for Bass, and losing defense on both deals, to a sudden move to orthodoxy and a complete lineup. All of a sudden getting an undersized guy who can score inside in Bass looks like a strong move to play alongside Dwight rather than a mistake to in replaing Gortat off the bench wiht more offense but less size/defense.
 
Report: Frustrated Lakers pull offer to Odom

The team has pulled its offer to forward Lamar Odom, the Los Angeles Times reported on Tuesday night. Citing a team official who was not authorized to comment publicly on the negotiations, the newspaper reported that owner Jerry Buss was upset that Odom and his representatives had not responded to the team's offer of three years at $9 million per season. Odom and his agent Jeff Schwartz have reportedly been seeking a five-year deal at $10 million per season.

The newspaper reported that Odom has been in negotiations with the Mavericks and Heat, two teams that can only offer their mid-level exceptions of $5.8 million per season for a maximum of five years.

ESPN, More..
 
If they can't retain Odom, the Lakers have actually gotten a whole lot worse this offseason, I like it. Also, please don't shoot me for saying this, but I'd actually like to have Odom on this team, as long as the contract isn't too huge or long.


Consider yourself shot. ;)

Wrong time. 5 years ago = good idea. Not so much now unless you have a backup deal in place to turn Jason Thompson into Amare and are looking to win now (an Evans/Martin/Odom/Amare/Hawes quintet would be as talented as any in the league).
 
Consider yourself shot. ;)

Wrong time. 5 years ago = good idea. Not so much now unless you have a backup deal in place to turn Jason Thompson into Amare and are looking to win now (an Evans/Martin/Odom/Amare/Hawes quintet would be as talented as any in the league).

wow.... the lakers screwed up big time on this one. they need odom. bad... without him they dont make it out of the 2nd round. he should take a 1 yr deal and sign with the cavs... or do a s&t with the cavs for a 2 year contract with a player option for ilgauskas. the cavs should do whatever they can to get odom, he would put them over the top. that and i cant see where odom will get a chance to compete for a ring and start at pf....
 
Consider yourself shot. ;)

Wrong time. 5 years ago = good idea. Not so much now unless you have a backup deal in place to turn Jason Thompson into Amare and are looking to win now (an Evans/Martin/Odom/Amare/Hawes quintet would be as talented as any in the league).

Sigh...I guess you're right. I just really like Odom and always have, seeing him on the Lakers for the last few years wasn't very pretty and seeing him now to be, possibly, had for a discount price...it just looked kind of enticing.
 
Stein: Clippers after Sessions?


The distinct vibe in the stands at UNLV's Cox Pavilion is that the Clippers -- apart from owner Donald Sterling -- would greatly prefer to add more of a set-up man to a backcourt rotation that already features Baron Davis and emerging star Eric Gordon as opposed to signing Allen Iverson to a one-year deal up to the full $5.9 million midlevel exception.

The top choice in that scenario? Extending an offer sheet to restricted free agent Ramon Sessions.

More..
 
Celts reallly got a steal here for 1.9 millions

for all his drawbacks, Daniels is a damn good slasher and finisher around the basket, hustles, and plays decent D.

He can give them quality minutes at the 3 while Pierce is on the bench or Ray is cuz Pierce can just move to the 2
 
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