Newsday: Ron Artest now a man on a mission

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Ron Artest now a man on a mission
The enigmatic NBA star took time from his mission trip to Kenya to speak with Newsday's Ken Berger about basketball, life and his future.
BY KEN BERGER
kenneth.berger@newsday.com
July 16, 2007, 9:06 PM EDT


Ron Artest has seen poverty. Growing up in the projects of Queensbridge, he lived in it. But nothing like this.

It was really the babies that got to him -- 1- and 2-year-olds, some HIV-positive, playing in dirt-filled huts adjacent to ditches filled with feces. The stench was overwhelming, not to mention the emotions.

"These people are not eating," Artest said on his cell phone from a tent on the outskirts of Nairobi, Kenya, where he joined several other NBA players to bring food and necessities to the hungry and impoverished. "They haven't taken showers, and the sewers are right outside their house. And it's not even sewers with running water. It's like a little ditch so they can throw their feces in.

"And little 1-year-old babies are walking around and playing right next to it, wearing clothes that look like they've been in a New York train station and run over by a '7' train 100 times. All the ghettos in New York City, the only thing that can compare to this is New Orleans when Katrina happened. And this is worse than Katrina."

The Sacramento Kings forward was joined on the trip by NBA Players Association president Billy Hunter and fellow players Theo Ratliff, Maurice Evans and Etan Thomas in conjunction with "Feed the Children" co-founders Larry and Frances Jones. The goal was to distribute 44 million meals to 1 million residents during the past week.

"It's about a 5,000-square-foot area, and it's filled with rice and peas and porridge and everything," Artest said. "If we didn't bring that rice, they didn't know where their next meal was going to come from."

It was 4 a.m. in Africa Monday when Artest, whose ancestors were brought to the United States from that continent as slaves, huddled with a flashlight and iPhone and opened up. An hourlong phone conversation revealed all the contradictions that have made Artest one of the most talented, enigmatic stars in the NBA.

His most recent mistake, a domestic dispute with his wife outside their suburban Sacramento home in March, cost him a seven-game suspension from the NBA that will commence at the start of the 2007-08 season. Artest pleaded no-contest in May to corporal injury to a spouse, a misdemeanor, and was sentenced to probation and community service.

Artest apologized for the incident, saying: "I'm not trying to be in the public [eye] for anything negative. That's not what I'm trying to do anymore, but unfortunately, things happen. People also need to understand it was a misdemeanor. And people also need to understand that me and my family are working things out and I truly, definitely love my family."

Artest's wife, Kimsha, who accused him of grabbing, pushing and slapping her, is taking nursing classes in Indiana, where Artest has several homes.

"We're still together," Artest said. "We've got problems, but we're still married."

Then there is the Artest who did heart-wrenching work in Kenya, including a visit to Kermit Washington's clinic for children with HIV and AIDS. And the Artest who opened up about basketball.

He said he's not asking to be traded, but wouldn't mind if it happened. He said he's not pushing for a trade to the Knicks, but sounded like someone who wants to come home in the worst way.

He said he wants to stand by the Kings because they've stood by him. But he reopened the door to exercising his opt-out clause after the 2007-08 season, a possibility that could help precipitate a trade.

"A team doesn't want to lose you for nothing when they could have gotten something," Artest said. "So people need to understand that, also."

Interestingly, he was not at all offended by reports that Knicks coach and president Isiah Thomas would be unwilling to include David Lee in an Artest deal. He even agreed that the Knicks shouldn't make that deal after his experience playing streetball with Lee at 115th and Lenox last summer.

"If some crazy scenario happened where I was with the Knicks, I would want David Lee there," Artest said. "I love David Lee. I played with him in the 'hood last summer, and he showed so much heart. They were trying to rough up David Lee, but David Lee got rough right back. And this was the projects, you know? And I respected that.

"I wouldn't trade myself for David Lee at all. I love his game. I love how he rebounds. To come off the bench and average close to 10 rebounds, you can't trade a guy like that. You don't trade a guy like David Lee, and Isiah made a great call. I would have done the same thing."

Artest, 27, said he doesn't think the suspension will cause the Kings to recoil from supporting him, nor does he think it will scare potential trade suitors away -- particularly Thomas, his former coach with the Pacers whom he referred to as "my family."

"Some people, they're good guys and want to be bad boys," Artest said. "I've already got that hard core in me, but I'm trying to be a good guy. And I think I deserve to try to change the views of people about me."

Evidently, he's changed a few. The last time he was in New York, he said he saw three guys wearing Knicks jerseys with the name "Artest" on the back.

"All the people in New York give me a confidence that no one else could give me," he said. "The respect that I have for New York City, it'll never go anywhere. It's like tattooed in my blood."

Among the many aspects of Artest's complicated personality is a fierce sense of loyalty, something he regrets abandoning when he demanded to be traded from Indiana about a year after he set off one of the ugliest sports brawls in American history.

Artest was suspended for 73 games, the longest ban in NBA history, for his role in the brawl between the Pacers and Pistons that spilled into the stands at the Palace of Auburn Hills in November 2004. Now, he is torn between getting a fresh start and sticking with a team that has embraced him.

"You don't run out on people that supported you like that," he said. "You don't do that. You stick with your family."

Asked whether he'd play the trade-demand card again, Artest said, "That's something I won't do. I have a deep respect for Isiah and everything, but that's just something that I haven't thought about."

But Artest also wondered aloud whether a small market such as Sacramento "is not really for a guy like me sometimes ... I'm totally capable of playing in any major city -- L.A., Miami, Houston, New York City -- and at the same time, I'm happy to be a Sacramento King."

After saying in a recently published report that he wants to retire as a King and probably won't exercise his opt-out next summer, Artest offered a different take from his tent in Nairobi.

"It depends on what happens or what offers are made," he said. "I'm not saying I'm not going to look at the offers. But I'm not really chasing the money like that."

It was classic Artest when moments later, he said he's underpaid at $7.8 million next season with a player's option for $8.45 million in 2008-09.

"I'm on the same level as any of the top players in the league just because I'm a lockdown defender and there's no one that could stop me," Artest said. "I can score when I want ... I know the Knicks got some money. I know Mr. Dolan's got some money over there, but we'll see what happens."

For the record, Artest made it clear what he thinks about the Knicks team he would join if a deal ever got done.

"That's definitely like a championship roster," Artest said. "Zach Randolph is so good. When the Knicks got him, I was like, 'Man, major problems in the East.' Zach Randolph is a monster. He's a straight beast."

As for the potential mayhem that could ensue from pairing two players with long disciplinary resumes, Artest said: "People want to play with Zach Randolph. He might not have the Tiger Woods image, but people want to play with him. And you have Eddy Curry, a legit center, and now you're talking championship."

But that is all speculation for now, and the reality of what Artest saw in Kenya will stay with him for a long time. He's been shooting video and plans to put it on the Web when he gets home.

"We just were like, 'Yo, we gotta pick up these babies,' you know?" Artest said. "We gotta touch these kids. And we went over there and we made sure we made contact with them. It felt like being at home, just from being from slavery and everything ... I really felt happy to be around them, just knowing their history. I feel so much a part of them."

NOTE: The OP had a brief synopsis of the article from realGM. I found the whole article at Newsday.com and replaced it.
 
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Ron is going to play his *** off this year. It will make no difference in our playoff chances, but he is going to leave it out there whether he loathes or loves Sacramento.
 
The funny thing is there are still people out there that want him on our team :eek:

The sooner this nutter is gone, the better off we are!
 
The funny thing is there are still people out there that want him on our team :eek:

The sooner this nutter is gone, the better off we are!

Apparently, those people still include Geoff Petrie, the Maloofs, and Coach Theus, who have all voiced in various forms continuing support for Artest as a member of the Sac Kings. Petrie said most recently that he expects Artest back on the court with the team following his 7 game suspension (assuming it's upheld pending appeal) and Theus said he's looking forward to working with his small forward this upcoming season. If these people at the top of the organization think Artest is a "nutter" they're not saying it or even hinting at such.
 
Apparently, those people still include Donnie Walsh, Larry Bird, and Coach Carlisle, who have all voiced in various forms continuing support for Artest as a member of the Ind Pacers. Bird said most recently that he expects Artest back on the court with the team following his 73 game suspension and Carlisle said he's looking forward to working with his small forward this upcoming season. If these people at the top of the organization think Artest is a "nutter" they're not saying it or even hinting at such.


I made some highlighted alterations to your statement, just for comparative purposes.

Those who do no know history... :cool:
 
I made some highlighted alterations to your statement, just for comparative purposes.

Those who do no know history... :cool:

All those people in the Pacer organization were expressing great disappointment and in some cases ridiculing Artest right before he was cut loose. The difference in tone with management in Sac is obvious. If the Kings are on the verge of trading Artest they are not hinting of such a move since all they are doing is saying they expect him to perform on the court here this season and are looking forward to it. Clearly, Artest could be traded out of Sac at any moment, but so could anybody else on the team.
 
Ron is wishie washie....trade me, no don't trade me, I not bad, I am bad.

Must be off his pills.

PS. on the positive side he is helping the needy and hungry, kudos.
 
All those people in the Pacer organization were expressing great disappointment and in some cases ridiculing Artest right before he was cut loose. The difference in tone with management in Sac is obvious. If the Kings are on the verge of trading Artest they are not hinting of such a move since all they are doing is saying they expect him to perform on the court here this season and are looking forward to it. Clearly, Artest could be traded out of Sac at any moment, but so could anybody else on the team.


You missed my point -- I would in fact agree that we appear to be if anything MORE delusional than the Pacers were before the final straw (although Geoff is the only deluded dude who matters now with a rookie coach who doesn't know any better and has to say the right things anyway and a couple of owners dumber than dirt). But that's not important -- the Pacers may have been more down on Ron, but they weren't going to trade him anyway.

The point wasn't that we were going to trade him but rather that we SHOULD, just as the Pacers SHOULD have. The inability to learn from experience OR history is a particularly virulent form of stupidity. There is no good down the road with Ron Artest. Either he ruins you, or he just annoys you and then puts you in a position next summer of having to either lose him for nothing or of committing your future to him. In which case he ruins you sooner or later adn your franchise spends the next half dozen years walking on eggshells and waiting for the other shoe to drop.
 
I really sense a cruel mob mentality when it comes to Ron Artest lately and I hope he does get out of here for his own sake.

There is nothing in this article, or his mission to Africa, that deserves to especially be made fun of. Not especially - just a guy speaking his mind, and like many people is conflicted about some stuff.

I like Ron Artest, and I hope he gets traded soon so everyone can focus their contempt on someone more deserving.
 
I can see Ron Ron's points completely. I think he is honest and straight with us all. If he fits into Theus' style and plans, then no reason he won't get substantial extension with the Kings. Personally, I think his spouse is the problem as she has "gone off" a few times in the past (as reported in the media) and he gets caught up in the overly emotional retaliation, much like getting caught with a foul when the other guy started it. When motivated with a "hungry" team who all hustle like he did, he can take the Kings a long way. But last year there was nothing in the team on the floor to motivate Ron Ron much less the others. So let's give him and Coach Theus a chance and see where the first 20 games of the new year take them

Until then, I'm behind Ron Ron.
 
I'd be more willing to entertain the possibility that Ron's growing and maturing if there were some evidence, ANYWHERE, that he has the capability to do so. I genuinely don't think he does.

And I didn't get that vibe from the dog thing, or the spousal abuse thing (though neither of those aspects are particularly endearing). I think the most telling "Ron's just a nut" moment of last season for me was when he was talking to a group of kids and still justifying his actions in the Detroit ugliness. Sorry to say it, I was more than willing to give Ron a chance when he came here, but... dude's just nutty. And is exactly the kind of delusional nutty that can get ugly again, despite his humanitarian efforts.
 
This reminds me of two other guys who were on a mission.

Elwood: I'm gonna quit work first thing in the morning.
Jake: And how are you gonna get to work Mr Lead Foot, Mr Hot Rod, Mr Motor Head? Those cops took your license away. They got your name, your address.
Elwood: No they don't got my address. I falsified my renewal. I put 1060 West Addison.
Jake: 1060 West Addison? That's Wrigley Field.
 
[SIZE=-1]“Insane people are always sure that they are fine. It is only the sane people who are willing to admit that they are crazy.” ~ Nora Ephron, Writer

"I love it when people say I'm crazy, because then I know I'm doing things right." ~ Larry Ellison, Billionaire CEO

[/SIZE]“That's gonna be fun, ... I love the tension. I love when everything's going wrong ... In the NBA, they don't promote guys like me. They like guys who like Cheerios, good guys. But I find a way to promote myself.” ~ Ron Artest
 
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Artest: "I'm excited about the season. I'm happy to be on the (insert team here.) Man, we've got (insert players here) and (insert player here). Coach (insert coach here) is a hell of a coach. We're going to win the championship this year. No doubt. (insert team here) fans are the best."
 
Artest: "I'm excited about the season. I'm happy to be on the (insert team here.) Man, we've got (insert players here) and (insert player here). Coach (insert coach here) is a hell of a coach. We're going to win the championship this year. No doubt. (insert team here) fans are the best."

Straight out of Bull Durham :)
 
I can see Ron Ron's points completely. I think he is honest and straight with us all. If he fits into Theus' style and plans, then no reason he won't get substantial extension with the Kings. Personally, I think his spouse is the problem as she has "gone off" a few times in the past (as reported in the media) and he gets caught up in the overly emotional retaliation, much like getting caught with a foul when the other guy started it. When motivated with a "hungry" team who all hustle like he did, he can take the Kings a long way. But last year there was nothing in the team on the floor to motivate Ron Ron much less the others. So let's give him and Coach Theus a chance and see where the first 20 games of the new year take them

Until then, I'm behind Ron Ron.
They both have problems. Both have "gone off" at times. A clearly dysfunctional marriage, with violence on both sides. I really do hope that counseling makes a difference for them and their children.

I don't like the term crazy, but in light of some posts here, there's "good" crazy and there's "bad" crazy. Ron's "craziness" has led him to actions multiple times that have negative effects on people around him. That's not a "good" crazy.
 
This artical is not bad at all, it is just Ron being Ron. I am hoping anyone who actually thought he may become a golden press boy has come around by now. I am sorry, Ron plays with more heart than anyone else on the team and I would much rather see Bibby go. If Ron decides that he would rather leave, I say ship him out first thing. But if he wants to give it all another season, I am happy to have him on the Kings. And with articals like this, GP can know exactly where he is at.

And it seems he is giving up on the Gangster Rapper thing and looking to spend his excess $$$ on bigger and better things. More power to him! Really, traveling in a third world country changes you for life and he was clearly touched.
 
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I can't believe anyone still hangs on every word Artest says. It's all nonsense and best treated by ignoring him. I've seen more meaningful dialog watching a Spongebob cartoon.
 
This is just Ron being Ron.

He was this way before he got to Sacramento, he'll be this way after he leaves/retires.

Take everything Ron says with a heavy dose of salt.
 
Apparently, those people still include Geoff Petrie, the Maloofs, and Coach Theus, who have all voiced in various forms continuing support for Artest as a member of the Sac Kings. Petrie said most recently that he expects Artest back on the court with the team following his 7 game suspension (assuming it's upheld pending appeal) and Theus said he's looking forward to working with his small forward this upcoming season. If these people at the top of the organization think Artest is a "nutter" they're not saying it or even hinting at such.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it.:D
 
PurpleHaze said:
If these people at the top of the organization think Artest is a "nutter" they're not saying it or even hinting at such.

Well of course they're not saying it or hinting at it. It would do absolutely NO good for them to do any such thing, even if they're all card-carrying members of the "Artest is as Mad as a Hatter" club.
 
I'm sorry but I do not think that there has ever been a player on this team that I have just simply wanted to go away. Since it appears that he will still be on this team this season, I will hope for the best with him. I will cheer for him as I would any other player on the Kings. However, I will still hope that he is traded soon. It's just too much. His benefits no longer outweigh the trouble.
 
This artical is not bad at all, it is just Ron being Ron. I am hoping anyone who actually thought he may become a golden press boy has come around by now. I am sorry, Ron plays with more heart than anyone else on the team and I would much rather see Bibby go. If Ron decides that he would rather leave, I say ship him out first thing. But if he wants to give it all another season, I am happy to have him on the Kings. And with articals like this, GP can know exactly where he is at.

And it seems he is giving up on the Gangster Rapper thing and looking to spend his excess $$$ on bigger and better things. More power to him! Really, traveling in a third world country changes you for life and he was clearly touched.

Big +1... well stated.
 
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