New Role for Bibby?

ForlornKing

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Do you guys think that Adelman has decided to use Mike as the facilitator?

His scoring has gone down, but his is assists have gone up.

It just looks like in his game he's getting more involved with the team.
 
ForlornKing said:
Do you guys think that Adelman has decided to use Mike as the facilitator?

His scoring has gone down, but his is assists have gone up.

It just looks like in his game he's getting more involved with the team.

i was thinking that yesterday also, its all good as long we're winning :D
 
I think its probably more of a decision on Mike's part than on Adelman's. We don't even run that many set plays, Adelman really gives his players the freedom to play the way they want to (as long as they produce). I think Mike took a step back and looked at what the team needed and he's been doing it.
 
As someone who has frequently attacked Bibby for looking for his shot too much and too early in the shot clock, I definitely want to say that I'm very pleased with the way Bibby has been playing lately. He seems to be looking much more to set people up and has done a much better job of facilitating the offense. I hope the trend continues.
 

Actually, I think it's an old role. Looks to me like Mike is back playing HIS game. In 04-05 he suddenly had to take on more scoring responsibility. This continued this season, until the past week. He seems to be playing very much the way he did in his first 3 years in SAC, running the offense, and letting the others score. If we're winning and Mike is averaging 12-18points and 8-12 assists per game, that means the other Kings are playing well. Thet's a good thing! :D
 
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tubiscus said:
Actually, I think it's an old role. Looks to me like Mike is back playing HIS game. In 04-05 he suddenly had to take on more scoring responsibility. This continued this season, until the past week. He seems to be playing very much the way he did in his first 3 years in SAC, running the offense, and letting the others score. If we're winning and Mike is averaging 12-18points and 8-12 assists per game, that means the other Kings are playing well. Thet's a good thing! :D

Finally mike is playing like he is a freaking point guard... I have never liked PG's who shoot to much. I have understood bibby's situation because he was the go to. Now we have Martin and Artest and bibby need to avg 8 assists a game... He should take more than 10-12 shots a night in my oppinion. WE need a set up man on the floor, when bibby plays SG in a PG spot, we dont have the flow to the game. We will win when mike plays liek his position GOOO MIKE
 
Its good to see Mikes assist on the rise but its also a healthy insurance policy to know his quick and high scoring ability is there if everybody is shooting poorly. I like the way Mike is coming up in the 4th and really breaking the games open when he does start looking for his shot. Its like the other team forgot about him and focus on Miller, K-mart, and Ron. Them bam Mike drains about 4 in a row and you don't know what to do to defend the kings then.
 
Mike scared me there for a bit. He was starting to turn into another Arenas. The way Mikes been playing lately, I am very very happy with. Reminds me of 03-04 kings. Mike takes the open shot when its there, and sets up his teammates all the other times. 3 weeks ago, he was looking to shoot. Now he is looking to pass because he knows that he doesn't have to be the primary scoring option anymore. He was playing the same way earlier in the year, its just his team wasn't hitting the open shots he was giving them. (blame finley.) Then he decided to go ape **** and score 35 points a game untill a move was made, and now he is back to his 10 assist, 15 points role.
 
venom_7 said:
Mike scared me there for a bit. He was starting to turn into another Arenas. The way Mikes been playing lately, I am very very happy with. Reminds me of 03-04 kings. Mike takes the open shot when its there, and sets up his teammates all the other times. 3 weeks ago, he was looking to shoot. Now he is looking to pass because he knows that he doesn't have to be the primary scoring option anymore. He was playing the same way earlier in the year, its just his team wasn't hitting the open shots he was giving them. (blame finley.) Then he decided to go ape **** and score 35 points a game untill a move was made, and now he is back to his 10 assist, 15 points role.

Nicely put. Bibby has always been one who did what was needed for his team. When things were going badly for the Kings, he tried to carry them on his shoulders.....and it sometimes worked. I think now that the load has been lifted from him, he is back playing in a manner that is more natural for him.

One reason that the Bibby criticism irritated me, is that you cannot fault the guy for changing his game for the good of the team. He has now changed his game back to a more normal (for him) game. Again, it is for the good of the team. I applaud him!!!!!
 
i don't think its quite as black and white as everybody is making it out to be. mike bibby's "role" probably will not change much. we've seen a trend recently in which bibby has clearly looked to get others involved more than himself. admirable, certainly, especially considering how good of a shooter bibby can be and has been in the past. point is, the kings are still an offensively-oriented team, though one with more defensive punch than they've had in awhile. the kings have always been at their most effective when they play into the hot hand. mike recognizes that he hasn't been the hot hand of late, and with the arrival of ron artest, the emergence of kevin martin and francisco garcia, the consistency of kenny thomas as a starter as well as the consistency of shareef abdur rahim as a sixth man, and the resurgance of the team as a whole, mike has discovered that he has a lot more options to work with when it comes to the offensive set. mike has been great in the half court the past coupla games. he's seeing the whole court (ie: bibby to martin alley-oop), as opposed to his typically narrow two-man-game-vision (ie: mike bibby/brad miller pick & roll...not a bad thing, of course). this may not be a "new" development in mike's career, though it is one for this kings team as it stands today.

mike's always gonna look to score, cuz he's a scorer. but he doesn't need to carry the team night in and night out, and i'm of the opinion that that is a relief to mike bibby. he wants to lead the team, but being the team's leading scorer doesn't necessarily equate to leading the team. mike's not shy when it comes to being the first scoring option, but i think he's playing his best ball when he sees the whole court, and the defense is forced to spread itself out. then mike can just play to the hot hands. k-mart, cisco, ron ron, b-52, bonzi. SAR...whoever it may be. mike's still a threat offensively, so his penetrate-and-dish has been very effective of late. he and brad miller are still a killer two-man combo, and thats cemented in the playbook. now adelman and bibby can be more creative and be more confident in their other scoring options. don't think of it as a "new" role for mike bibby. think if it as the return to a role that he was most effective in when the kings were at their best. this is how he used to play. the effectiveness of the offense--getting to the basket, getting to the line, taking open jumpers, not forcing the action--is how the kings used to play. the style has changed, but the efficiency is there, and that just opens up new doors.
 
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Bibby is doing a great job, just as he has all year. Playing the roll that the team needs him to. If we need points we know Mike is there. If we need someone to run the offense hey theres Mike again.

He never gets enough credit because of his poor D. Although post-artest he is playing a lot better D then before.

The entire team has had a change. Amazing what 1 player can do.
 
Padrino said:
don't think of it as a "new" role for mike bibby. think if it as the return to a role that he was most effective in when the kings were at their best. this is how he used to play. the effectiveness of the offense--getting to the basket, getting to the line, taking open jumpers, not forcing the action--is how the kings used to play. the style has changed, but the efficiency is there, and that just opens up new doors.
That's how I feel it is. Thanks for stating it so well. And I'm with 6th about the recent Bibby criticism. I think Bibby has always tried to do what he thinks this team needed from him. I don't think he has ever felt comfortable being the #1 scoring option. That just isn't his game. What I see recently, is Bibby back to being more like the Bibbs we've known and loved. ;)
 
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