kingsboi
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how long before we see a new trend in the NBA? It will happen eventually, question is what group of players will set the stage for it.
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how long before we see a new trend in the NBA? It will happen eventually, question is what group of players will set the stage for it.
If you think about it, the big revolution was finding players that can shoot 40% from 3, causing the expected value of possessions ending with a 3point attempt to be 10-20pts per 100 attempts > hitting 50-55% for 2. As the league keeps moving outside and getting smaller, there will eventually open an opportunity for inside players who can hit over 60% inside to reset the odds back in the 2 point favor. I honestly think it may already be here but you see players with clear paths stop and jack up a 3, or with 2 on 1 breaks that are surely 75% have the second player trail for a 3. EVERY SINGLE TIME THOSE SHOTS MISS I DIE INSIDE. If a coach can teach players to correctly calculate those percentages and always take an uncontested dunk/layup instead of the kickback they will gain an edge.
The other solution is to adjust the 3pt shot so it reverts closer to a 33% shot.
kingsboi
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two time MVP Giannis isn't reliant on three point shooting and he used his inside scoring among other ways to score and win a ship. If you remember back when Kawhi was with Toronto, he was killing it from mid-range. It's all there for the taking. There isn't one way to play just because there is a trend. Be the trend setter or breaker I say and win it with the players you have and are able to acquire. You don't have to be a dynasty to be content.
That's what I'm saying though, it's going to be a player(s) and a coach. Because I am pretty sure the 3-pt directive is taught.
kingsboi
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there will be different teachings if the NBA decides to one day change the rules a bit in regards to making the three point shot the same distance all around as has been discussed in the NBA thread as well as giving defenses more freedom to defend rather than be timid to reach in because the offensive player will swoop under their arm, kick their leg out or flail their arms
oh I agree - I'm just saying that there is always an edge to be gained. People found that by increasing volume on 3pt attempts, averages would go up and expected value would favor the bold. Because of this traditional bigs are dinosaurs which means a new edge is there for the right genius to exploit.
I don't believe it ever has, but it seemed to me that the question was whether it could? I don't think it can, and I don't even think I'd want it to, but I'd like to see some sort of happy medium, which would probably require a team that was built around a center to create a championship dynasty.
That kind of depends on how macro or micro your view is on "time." The style of basketball that they were playing in the NBA the year they celebrated their 60th anniversary was remarkably similar to how they were playing when they celebrated their 50th anniversary. Which, in turn, was overall pretty faithful to how they'd been playing since the merger. I don't really think that trends change that much, at least not in terms of affecting how the entire league is playing.
Would you be happy in a world where the best players were at other positions but even though big men could hit >30% from 3, there was a focus on cheap baskets at the rim again? No unskilled 7'2" players but also a Shaq would be expected to be 65/33/85?
I would be happy in a world where post play matters again. I don't necessarily need for all of the best players in the league to be big men, as long as whomever the best players are are scoring down on the block. If your best player's go-to move is a turnaround jump hook, I don't care whether they're a center or a guard.
Telemachus
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I think some have forgotten that MJ was a great post player.
I think we'll eventually reach a tipping point where the lack of traditional big men actually leads to a return to the interior game but how it manifests itself may depend on what type of player the next unicorn is.
iowamcnabb
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Another nearly 20 point lead in the playoffs. Fun!
Tetsujin
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At least the Warriors-Mavs game last night was solidly entertaining?
kingsboi
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so in your view, what needs to happen in order to dictate how the entire league is playing?
kingsboi
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correct. post play may not matter much now but it shall return once again and while it may not be a traditional style throw it to the big man down the block 20 times a game, it will be potent.
I feel like I've already answered that: it's going to take a team winning multiple championships playing a style that nobody else is playing, that forces general managers around the league to go, "I'm going to have to change the way my team plays, in order to compete with them!" If you're looking for a more detailed answer than that, I don't have one.
kingsboi
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what style of play will be the new trend, in your view?
I'd hope to see a return to dominant post play, but I honestly don't have the first damned clue. Don't even have a guess.
kingsboi
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could it be something that was played maybe a decade or two ago and just brought back to life? I don't see much innovation awaiting for the sport unless rules change and the diameters of the court are changed.
You're probably right.
iowamcnabb
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Ok now this is physical
Because their seasons overlap? When else are they supposed to have them?
Sluggah
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Ah, yes. My bad. Still don’t understand why the NBA and NHL seasons so closely overlap.
iowamcnabb
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