[NBA] Comments that Don't Warrant Their Own Thread (Playoffs?)

Mr. S£im Citrus

Mr. S£im Citrus

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PurpleHaze said:
Finally NBA is about to come to its sences [sic] by changing voting for league MVP until AFTER the playoffs - well, at least starting next season. RIDIRKULOUS = MVP??
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Come to its senses? Wow, I couldn't disagree with you more: all of the awards are supposed to be regular season awards. Nothing that the voters observe during the playoffs should be allowed to influence whomever they thought was derserving during of whichever award during the regular season.

It doesn't make any sense for the Podoloff trophy to be voted on after the playoffs; that's what the Russell trophy is for.
 
hrdboild

hrdboild

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Allow me to provide the commentary:

"Did I make it? Did I make it?" CLANG "My eye! I got hit in the eye!"
 
pdxKingsFan

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Come to its senses? Wow, I couldn't disagree with you more: all of the awards are supposed to be regular season awards. Nothing that the voters observe during the playoffs should be allowed to influence whomever they thought was derserving during of whichever award during the regular season.

It doesn't make any sense for the Podoloff trophy to be voted on after the playoffs; that's what the Russell trophy is for.
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100% agreement.
 
Aenadin

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Wade's a great player but most of his foul calls he flops... he always jumps in and drops to the ground to get his calls.

let these men play!!! its these petty fouls that stall the finals... take these away and you take away the heat's offense.

I really do hope the mavs win this... they deserve it. they are the team of destiny right now. get it done at home! dallas is going to be rocking...
 
pdxKingsFan

pdxKingsFan

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Aenadin said:
Wade's a great player but most of his foul calls he flops... he always jumps in and drops to the ground to get his calls.
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Wasn't there a comedy video recently where someone imitated this to perfection? They were taking shots in the style of NBA greats and Wade was a flop/layup. I can't find it.

Anyhow, more annoying to me is the way LBJ is constantly scowling at the refs if he doesn't get a call or gets called when its so obvious the refs can't let it go. Lesser players get T'd up for that.
 
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mac

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Kingster

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It's amazing to me that announcers still pronounce Nowitsy as No-wit-skee rather than:
No-Vit-skee. It's pronounced as a V, not a W. He's been in the league for a decade. He's a multiple All-Star and a future HOFer. Magic Johnson and others need to finally get it right.
 
pdxKingsFan

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Kingster said:
It's amazing to me that announcers still pronounce Nowitsy as No-wit-skee rather than:
No-Vit-skee. It's pronounced as a V, not a W. He's been in the league for a decade. He's a multiple All-Star and a future HOFer. Magic Johnson and others need to finally get it right.
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So we Americanized his name, that's just how it is, you know we aren't very tolerant of non-English speakers. A wise man once said "What is this?? Is this not America? This is not China! This is not Russia! This is not the place where they brought down the wall, this is America! We have the right to say what we want to say" and so I will continue to mispronounce his name as I see fit!

:)
 
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mac

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pdxKingsFan said:
So we Americanized his name, that's just how it is, you know we aren't very tolerant of non-English speakers. A wise man once said "What is this?? Is this not America? This is not China! This is not Russia! This is not the place where they brought down the wall, this is America! We have the right to say what we want to say" and so I will continue to mispronounce his name as I see fit!

:)
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Just like how you'd never call Yao Ming by his first name, which is Ming. Yao is his surname.
 
Bricklayer

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mac said:
Just like how you'd never call Yao Ming by his first name, which is Ming. Yao is his surname.
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That's an odd one, in that it is commonly how it works out, but there does not seem to be any reason for it, unless there is a slightly different definiton of what is a "first" name and what is a "surname" in Asia (and I know there is). But from an American/Western standpoint, there is nothing inherently more comfortable about saying "Yao Ming" as opposed to "Ming Yao". If he had been introduced in the U.S. as Ming Yao, nobody would have blinked or stumbled over the name for a second. So its kind of odd. It would sound strange indeed for somebody to wander around introducing themselves as Johnson Bob, so not sure why Asians are so routinely introduced that way to the West.
 
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mac

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Bricklayer said:
That's an odd one, in that it is commonly how it works out, but there does not seem to be any reason for it, unless there is a slightly different definiton of what is a "first" name and what is a "surname" in Asia (and I know there is). But from an American/Western standpoint, there is nothing inherently more comfortable about saying "Yao Ming" as opposed to "Ming Yao". If he had been introduced in the U.S. as Ming Yao, nobody would have blinked or stumbled over the name for a second. So its kind of odd. It would sound strange indeed for somebody to wander around introducing themselves as Johnson Bob, so not sure why Asians are so routinely introduced that way to the West.
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What I mean is you call Kobe Bryant "Kobe", Tyreke Evans "Tyreke", Dirk Nowitzki "Dirk", Amare, etc. You'd never call him "Ming".
 
PurpleHaze

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mac said:
What I mean is you call Kobe Bryant "Kobe", Tyreke Evans "Tyreke", Dirk Nowitzki "Dirk", Amare, etc. You'd never call him "Ming".
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Right. Just like in Viet Nam, most common family name is "Nguyen." It's the "Smith" of that country and has ties to their ancient, long disappeared monarchy. Tran, Pham, and some other "last names" are also common but Nguyen is first on the list. Thus, when all the Vietnamese boat people started arriving in USA with names that in their country were like Nguyen Thi Oanh or Nguyen Cao Trang they were routinely switched around to Oanh Thi Nguyen, Trang Cao Nguyen, etc. Or they became even more Ameicanized as a Suzy Nguyen or a Jimmy Nguyen. I've traveled in East Asia a lot over the years and to this day I'm often referred to in Philippines as "Joe" or in Viet Nam as "Bob" - simple names they often assign as easy to say/remember for any American male visitor. In Asia, the native person is usually addressed with the family name first, so simply saying "Yao" is entirely customary.
 
est.1999

est.1999

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mac said:
What I mean is you call Kobe Bryant "Kobe", Tyreke Evans "Tyreke", Dirk Nowitzki "Dirk", Amare, etc. You'd never call him "Ming".
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Ummm, obviously. With the way you just labeled your examples is the reason why we call him Yao. To me the issue is why does it say Yao on his jersey rather than Ming? Same thing with Nene Hilario.
 
pdxKingsFan

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est.1999 said:
Ummm, obviously. With the way you just labeled your examples is the reason why we call him Yao. To me the issue is why does it say Yao on his jersey rather than Ming? Same thing with Nene Hilario.
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Because as has been pointed out "Yao" is his family name.

As for Nene, he is Brazilian and has adopted the custom of top Brazilian athletes who go exclusively by their first name or nicknames. Pele, Ronaldo, Romario, Bebeto, Kaka, etc.
 
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mac

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PurpleHaze said:
Right. Just like in Viet Nam, most common family name is "Nguyen." It's the "Smith" of that country and has ties to their ancient, long disappeared monarchy. Tran, Pham, and some other "last names" are also common but Nguyen is first on the list. Thus, when all the Vietnamese boat people started arriving in USA with names that in their country were like Nguyen Thi Oanh or Nguyen Cao Trang they were routinely switched around to Oanh Thi Nguyen, Trang Cao Nguyen, etc. Or they became even more Ameicanized as a Suzy Nguyen or a Jimmy Nguyen. I've traveled in East Asia a lot over the years and to this day I'm often referred to in Philippines as "Joe" or in Viet Nam as "Bob" - simple names they often assign as easy to say/remember for any American male visitor. In Asia, the native person is usually addressed with the family name first, so simply saying "Yao" is entirely customary.
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The thing is for Chinese/Vietnamese names the surname/family name comes before the first name. So to me it doesn't really make any sense to put their surnames at the back instead because it should be a thing that westerners just recognise. If "John Smith" visited China (I won't say Asia, because Indian names, Thai names, Malay names etc. don't have the surname before the first name), it wouldn't make sense for him to call himself "Smith John". Get what I mean? The locals should just know that his name is John and his surname is Smith because that's how Western names are like.


Outside of China, it's also more common for Chinese names to have two words instead of one (e.g. Yi Jian Lian - so his surname is Yi, first name is Jian Lian (two words), as opposed to Yao Ming)

Not sure what my point is, just adding on.
 
est.1999

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Jason Kidd should be banned from basketball for forever for that three point pumpfake foul drawing attempt. I've seen some bad ones over the years, but that one was, by far, the worst of all time.
 
Mad D

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est.1999 said:
Jason Kidd should be banned from basketball for forever for that three point pumpfake foul drawing attempt. I've seen some bad ones over the years, but that one was, by far, the worst of all time.
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That old man could have been seriously injured (I'm not talking about Kidd).
 
Mad D

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Miami has won back their HCA. The closer it gets towards the end of these last two games the more LeBron looks lost. He's deferring to Wade so much (even when Wade passed the ball in for him to carry it up the court late in the 4th, LeBron gave it right back to Wade). He's not playing horrible, but he's not dominating like he was against the Bulls. He's just blending in, maybe he's trying for a more of a Magic type role since he did have 9 assist.
 
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gunks

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Bosh outclutched Dirk this game.... What a shame.

Reffing was horrible in the end though. Heat really should have won this one by at least 5.

Series isnt over yet, but its looking grim for the Mavs. Besides their choke job in game 2, the Heat have looked in control throughout this entire slugfest of a series. If LeBron pulls his head out of his *** it is over.
 
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