[NBA] Comments that don't warrant a thread (NOV)
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Leave it to the Suns to suck hard enough to get a second consecutive number one pick but in a draft where all the top prospects play the only position that their deep at and no one can fill that gaping PG shaped hole in their roster. Also Josh Jackson looks Jimmer dribbling the ball off his foot every possession-level bad.
That's the sort of thinking that led the Suns to having no PGs in the first place. You can't have three ball dominant players play at the same time if there's no one to pass them the ball.
Booker/Warren/Bridges/Josh Jackson/Ariza all play the same general position as Zion does and all four young guys (plus Ariza, who will be an FA in the offseason) warrant touches (theoretically in Jackson's case) at the same positions that Zion/Reddish/RJ play.
Ayton has been the Suns best playmaker this season but he's already not getting as many touches as he needs thanks to the Suns seeing Booker as their prime option. Adding Zion to the mix is on paper a good move but I'm still not sure if he'll ever be a good off-the-ball shooter in the NBA (important when playing next to Ayton or Booker) and his needs as a force of nature thundering to the hoop are counterintuitive to Ayton's needs as a slightly more traditional big man prospect.
Even if the Suns do something crazy and sign Kemba or Kyrie to a big contract in the offseason, they're still gonna have a huge issue spreading the ball with the personnel they have now. And their owner is pretty much a Maloof.
Booker/Warren/Bridges/Josh Jackson/Ariza all play the same general position as Zion does and all four young guys (plus Ariza, who will be an FA in the offseason) warrant touches (theoretically in Jackson's case) at the same positions that Zion/Reddish/RJ play.
Ayton has been the Suns best playmaker this season but he's already not getting as many touches as he needs thanks to the Suns seeing Booker as their prime option. Adding Zion to the mix is on paper a good move but I'm still not sure if he'll ever be a good off-the-ball shooter in the NBA (important when playing next to Ayton or Booker) and his needs as a force of nature thundering to the hoop are counterintuitive to Ayton's needs as a slightly more traditional big man prospect.
Even if the Suns do something crazy and sign Kemba or Kyrie to a big contract in the offseason, they're still gonna have a huge issue spreading the ball with the personnel they have now. And their owner is pretty much a Maloof.
Was he?
.473 FG% / .311 3PT% / .721 FT% / 18.4 PPG / 4.3 RPG / 3.7 APG / 1.2 SPG / 0.4 BPG / 2.1 TOPG
That's not bad but that's not all-star level. You have guys like Walker, LaVine, Oladipo, Wall, Beal, Irving, Butler, Giannis, Simmons, Lowry, J. Richardson, & Middleton who have been having better statistical years (arguably).
Same thing when I hear people saying "Fox is having an all-star season." We do realize he has to compete with the likes of:
Curry
Westbrook
Harden
Paul
Holiday
Lillard
DeRozan
Thompson
Mitchell
Booker
McCollum
.473 FG% / .311 3PT% / .721 FT% / 18.4 PPG / 4.3 RPG / 3.7 APG / 1.2 SPG / 0.4 BPG / 2.1 TOPG
That's not bad but that's not all-star level. You have guys like Walker, LaVine, Oladipo, Wall, Beal, Irving, Butler, Giannis, Simmons, Lowry, J. Richardson, & Middleton who have been having better statistical years (arguably).
Same thing when I hear people saying "Fox is having an all-star season." We do realize he has to compete with the likes of:
Curry
Westbrook
Harden
Paul
Holiday
Lillard
DeRozan
Thompson
Mitchell
Booker
McCollum
Even with the new voting, it still breaks down to 4 backcourt + 6 frontcourt + 2 wildcard. LeVert would have been on the ballot for a frontcourt position. No fewer than eight (and possibly as many as eleven, depending on how Butler, Simmons and Middleton are classified) of the twelve guys you have listed here are ineligible for an All-Star spot as a frontcourt player.
It's possible (albeit unlikely) that everybody that you named, except Antetokuonmpo, will only eligible as a backcourt player. In which case, five of the twelve players you named will definitely not be All-Stars. As of right now, 16:37 ET, 13 Nov 2018, there are only three locks for the frontcourt in the eastern conference: Antetokuonmpo, Leonard and Embiid. That leaves three spots that LeVert would have had a shot at.
Supposing, for the sake of argument, that none of Ben Simmons, Jimmy Butler or Khris Middleton are eligible for frontcourt (which, again, is possible, since they're all ostensibly guards), who are the three other frontcourt players in the east that, right now, you'd bet money on would have gotten selected ahead of Caris LeVert?
It's possible (albeit unlikely) that everybody that you named, except Antetokuonmpo, will only eligible as a backcourt player. In which case, five of the twelve players you named will definitely not be All-Stars. As of right now, 16:37 ET, 13 Nov 2018, there are only three locks for the frontcourt in the eastern conference: Antetokuonmpo, Leonard and Embiid. That leaves three spots that LeVert would have had a shot at.
Supposing, for the sake of argument, that none of Ben Simmons, Jimmy Butler or Khris Middleton are eligible for frontcourt (which, again, is possible, since they're all ostensibly guards), who are the three other frontcourt players in the east that, right now, you'd bet money on would have gotten selected ahead of Caris LeVert?
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