Kangztillidie
Bench
Dude. Let the Doncic crap go. That's not going to be the reason Vlade might lose his job.
More Williams Joerger drama
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ockingsfan
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It's funny how winning quiets the noise and rumors surrounding the Kings.
I like how Vlade has handled these rumors "In house", for the most part.
I think the dynamics of the front office is that Brandon Williams is needed for the day-to-day operations. Williams may be very important to get the details done on any deals or transactions. But I think Vlade is still the ultimate decision maker, which is why Joeger is still coach.
I think as long as Vlade has the final say in matters, coach Joeger will be safe. Brandon Williams may have his preferences in coaches, but he's not the GM and he doesn't have that power to decide (which is Great news!). As long as he stays the course, I think the Kings will be able to weather the storm.
On to a playoff march, my friends!!!
I like how Vlade has handled these rumors "In house", for the most part.
I think the dynamics of the front office is that Brandon Williams is needed for the day-to-day operations. Williams may be very important to get the details done on any deals or transactions. But I think Vlade is still the ultimate decision maker, which is why Joeger is still coach.
I think as long as Vlade has the final say in matters, coach Joeger will be safe. Brandon Williams may have his preferences in coaches, but he's not the GM and he doesn't have that power to decide (which is Great news!). As long as he stays the course, I think the Kings will be able to weather the storm.
On to a playoff march, my friends!!!
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Livinthedream
All-Star
Aye. What is going on here?
Is this a shot at Williams? I don't like it. We should be all about our guy at this point in time.
I don't think it's a shot. I think you're reading way too much into an innocuous comment.
LoungeLizard
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Was about to post the exact same thing.
Dime Dropper
All-Star
I tend to agree. The comments were made before the game, which changes the context for me. He likely meant it was unfortunate for us in the sense that we were just about to face him.
Nice comments from him though.
That is the way I read it, too. Coach doesn't throw shade at our FO.
burekijogurt
Starter
i hope this is the case as well. and not for FO's sake but for Bagley's sake. Bagley is his rookie to groom and I don't think he would disparage him like that.
TaxMan
Starter
I think coach was clearly just stating the obvious....there were some leading up to the draft that thought Luka had a limited ceiling. He has taken the league by storm and so I think coach is just saying that’s not the case and there’s another tough guy to play against. I’ve seen coach say too many great things about Marvin, with a sly smile on his face like he knows he’s got something special, to think he’s somehow taking a shot at the draft day decision.
Section 101
All-Star
More from ESPN's Dallas writer.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...e-ceiling-dallas-mavericks-rookie-luka-doncic
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...e-ceiling-dallas-mavericks-rookie-luka-doncic
Livinthedream
All-Star
The key phrase is "unfortunately for us." Luka isn't reaching that ceiling tonight, so he wasn't talking about tonights game. But I guess we're all entitled to our interpretation.
I think some are so intent on seeing what they want to see they leave no room for the interpretation that is much more logical and in character for those involved.
Indeed, it is "unfortunate" because the Kings will be playing against the Mavs for years, not just tonight. But hey, assume what you want. Kings won, that's what matters. It isn't worth arguing over.
TaxMan
Starter
If we are still debating this in a few years I’m going to lose my lunch. at some point we will move on, hopefully by end of year when we are playing in the first round. First game ever against the mavs and it’s fun to imagine what if.
sactowndog
All-Star
Whether intended or not it is being spun that way and was a poor choice of words.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...e-ceiling-dallas-mavericks-rookie-luka-doncic
burekijogurt
Starter
yeah this whole thing is unfortunate. media will drum it up. Joerger needs to clear it up with Bagley (not necessarily publicly through the media, but he needs to reassure his rookie i think)
Hoovtrain
All-Star
The “unfortunate for our team” comment is what I didn’t like. Didn’t see the point of it
Just realized the comments were pre game.
Kings_of_California
Starter
Joerger saying "unfortunately for us" is just about the last thing I wanted to hear coming out of his mouth. That screans disagreement with management to me. Ugh.
EDIT: Also, can you imagine how that comment might make Bagley feel? Not good.
EDIT: Also, can you imagine how that comment might make Bagley feel? Not good.
That comment had NOTHING to do with Bagley. It doesn't scream "disagreement with management". It was made right before the game and is only marginally different than other comments other coaches have made in similar situations. Some of you really need to find a way to avoid getting drawn into the social media drama. It's almost like you're hoping something will go wrong. The Kings CAN have nice things.
MizzouKing
Starter
Oh no, it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that we were about to play the Mavs, or that players are more likely to want to play for coaches in the future who flatter them. I'm certain that Joerger was throwing shade at Marvin, throwing the entire team under the bus, and angling for a job with the Timberwolves because Vlade's about to be fired any moment! You heard it here, folks, I finally beat Williams to the punch!
TaxMan
Starter
I actually heard that coach kicked marvin in the knee after the game when he wasn't looking, just to keep him out of the lineup a little longer, marginalizing his rookie season stats to build up the Luka narrative. SMH....Oh no, it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that we were about to play the Mavs, or that players are more likely to want to play for coaches in the future who flatter them. I'm certain that Joerger was throwing shade at Marvin, throwing the entire team under the bus, and angling for a job with the Timberwolves because Vlade's about to be fired any moment! You heard it here, folks, I finally beat Williams to the punch!
ockingsfan
Starter
I think the narrative and the blurb is taken way out of context. It's amazing how ESPN doesn't quote the questions, when posting the Coaches responses.
I'm sure coach Joeger was asked directly about what he thought about Doncic as a player, which he obviously complemented him, as he should. I'm also rather positive that the follow up question was along the lines of, "Was there a reason why you guys passed over Doncic", which Joeger gave an honest answer to.
It's pretty obvious (since we picked Bagley) that the Kings F.O. felt that Bagley had the "higher ceiling", which Bagley still might. It's also not hard to see that Bagley has an ultra high ceiling, as does Doncic. Still, way to early to tell who will ultimately be the better ball player in 3 years. And we should be drafting based on the eventual finished product, not just the rookie year.
I think the media is trying to twist a direct question and honest answer by Joeger into the Kings are dysfunctional narrative.
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Livinthedream
All-Star
Joeger is a smart guy. He knows how to answer a question and knows how the media operates. It's not his first rodeo.
Livinthedream
All-Star
That tweet is timestamped before the game.
Pre-game.
Sactown ExPat
Starter
It’s almost like ESPN NBA is based in LA and exists mostly as a public relations arm for LBJ, and the Lakers. Almost.
