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So the word is the 76ers are thinking of trading MCW and getting Exum. Do we have enough assets to make an offer?
 
I wouldn't want him on our team unless it was either Ben or the 8th straight up. And I know they wouldn't go for it. If it was the 8th+Ben+Landry, that almost sounds kind of cool.
 
i would trade the 8th pick straight up for him; but that's EXTREMELY FOOLISH for the 76ers.....esp since the big 3 are either SF or C
 
If the 76ers are really so dumb to dump MCW to draft Exum, I'd really would like to get him. I was one of the few people here who wanted to draft MCW last year, so of course I'm ok with trading for him.
Is the 8th pick going to be enough? I don't know, and I don't think so. But maybe the 76ers could be interested in having 2 top 8 pick in this draft, who knows.
 
It's either the 76ers are exremely foolish or they see something in MCW that they don't think he will actually be that good, I heard they were willing to give him up to get Exum which is interesting (maybe Exum is just that good). It certainly would not hurt to have MCW I mean I'm all for it but you have to wonder if the 76ers do give him up for the 8th pick (doubtful) are we not seeing something they are?

I was all for Shaun Livingston but hell MCW is same size younger and more athletic so I say do it for 8th pick + DWill (I think we have to give Mclemore 1 more season I just don't want to give up on him atm).
 
Apparently the 8th would be enough if the Lakers wouldn't give up 7, at least according to the rumblings. I'd do it if Smart was gone. MCW is at least proven and is still young. That said I think Philly will end up taking whose left of the big three and keeping MCW, which would be the smart thing to do. MCW/Parker/Noel is a better core than we have. Just goes to show how much the FO has messed us up these last yew years.
 
Not sure why the 76ers would want to get rid of MCW, the kid had a good rookie year, and would be a good player to build around. It is possible that the first two picks off the board could be Parker and Wiggins, leaving the 76ers a choice between Embiid and Exum, but they could quite feasibly look to a player like Vonleh or make a deal to trade back with a team that would like the #3 pick in the draft. So personally I would keep hold of MCW, because from what I've seen, he should have a bright future in the league.

Now I can see why they might like a player like Exum. He's a big kid, athletic, and has the talent to be the next Russell Westbrook type player. But at the same time he has not really played at a high level of competitive basketball. So while there is no guarantee MCW will push on to become an elite PG, at the same time, there is a significant risk in shipping off a kid that has already made an impact in the NBA for a player that one could argue is a boom or bust player. At least with MCW they have a kid that should only get better from here on. After all, he is only one of three players to average 16-6-6 in his rookie season, and the other two are hall of fame members Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson.

But if the rumor is true and the 76ers decide to move on from MCW, then I would be more than happy to see him become a King. If the deal is as simple as #8 for MCW, then that would give us a talented young PG to pair with our talented young SG, giving us a back court that the team can build around. Equally, if the deal is something like: #8 + McLemore for #10 + MCW, or #8 + McLemore for #32/39 + MCW - then that type of trade could be ideal as well because we would grab a talented young PG, and still have a draft pick or two. Personally, though, I am not convinced he will be traded. However, if he is on the block then I would rather go for him than the potential one year rental of Kevin Love, because at least MCW would give us three seasons of contractual play, and then we would be in a position to extend him if he became one of the next elite PGs.
 
I'm not entirely sold on MCW. I'll admit to avoiding watching the Sixers this year because I like basketball and that's not what the Sixers were playing. For a big point guard, shooting 40% from the field is just unacceptable. I wasn't impressed with his touch around the rim. For all the clamor about his passing, he posted a 1.8/1 assist to turnover ratio with a usage rate of 25%.

Defensively, he is a big step in the right direction. If you could somehow pull off the Kevin Love trade and put MCW on the floor with Cousins, Gay and Love, then I can see it working because of Love's floor spacing. You would still need to get a legit 3 and D 2-guard in order to avoid having McLemore as the weak link in the starting five. Absent Love or some other stretch 4, defenses would be free to just stand in the paint and deny any easy looks for the entire team.
 
FWIW, MCW would be an interesting add even if the team kept IT, since you could put MCW on 2s but have him run the offense, getting away with playing IT off the ball but guarding PGs.
 
I'm not entirely sold on MCW. I'll admit to avoiding watching the Sixers this year because I like basketball and that's not what the Sixers were playing. For a big point guard, shooting 40% from the field is just unacceptable. I wasn't impressed with his touch around the rim. For all the clamor about his passing, he posted a 1.8/1 assist to turnover ratio with a usage rate of 25%.

Defensively, he is a big step in the right direction. If you could somehow pull off the Kevin Love trade and put MCW on the floor with Cousins, Gay and Love, then I can see it working because of Love's floor spacing. You would still need to get a legit 3 and D 2-guard in order to avoid having McLemore as the weak link in the starting five. Absent Love or some other stretch 4, defenses would be free to just stand in the paint and deny any easy looks for the entire team.

If you compare Russell Westbrook's rookie season to Michael Carter-William's rookie season, then you will find that Westbrook's FG%, RPG, APG, SPG, BPG and PPG were lower than Carter-William's stats. Now I am not suggesting Carter-Williams is a better player, or will become a better player than Westbrook. But for a rookie, Carter-Williams did a good job on a bad team. Statistically he was at least a match if not better than Westbrook as a rookie. Now he might not have Westbrook's ceiling, but Carter-Williams did show potential that he could develop into a good player. With some coaching, and a better supporting cast that doesn't rely on him carrying the scoring burden, then his game and stats should improve.

As for getting MCW on the floor with Cousins, Gay and Love, that would be a talented line up for sure. The problem is that we don't have the assets to do it. For Love to come here it would take at least our #8 pick, and equally, to get MCW here it would take at least our #8 pick. So while it would be a hell of a line up to watch, I don't see there being a scenario in which we could land both.
 
MCW is not worth the #8 in this draft. Let alone the #8 AND Ben. Ben is not a throw away piece. If we are intent on having a MCW type player, trade down and get Kyle Anderson. That makes more sense than giving players away.
 
MCW is not worth the #8 in this draft. Let alone the #8 AND Ben. Ben is not a throw away piece. If we are intent on having a MCW type player, trade down and get Kyle Anderson. That makes more sense than giving players away.

I'm actually very intrigued by Anderson. His big red flag is his lack of athleticism though, which could make or break him. If it turns out he's athletic enough to get by in the NBA, some team can have a steal.
 
I'm actually very intrigued by Anderson. His big red flag is his lack of athleticism though, which could make or break him. If it turns out he's athletic enough to get by in the NBA, some team can have a steal.

You can stay with UCLA and get a Zach Lavine if you want a tall point guard with athletisism. Point being, that #8 pick is valuable on its own in this draft. If we trade it, we should be accumulating pieces or getting a player that will help us win now. Not giving away our future.
 
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