rainmaker
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Maloofs have Infuriated other owners
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KingsFanSince85
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But according to Joe Maloof:
At this point in time, I'm far more inclined to believe an unnamed source than ANY member of the Maloof family. Logic should suggest, to anybody that's been following this ordeal, that many of the owners, especially the ones on the relocation committee, would be at least moderately upset with the Maloof's tactics. They negotiated a deal on their behalf only to have these spoiled children tell them that it isn't good enough.
How many members of the committee could possibly be happy about that?
At this point in time, I'm far more inclined to believe an unnamed source than ANY member of the Maloof family. Logic should suggest, to anybody that's been following this ordeal, that many of the owners, especially the ones on the relocation committee, would be at least moderately upset with the Maloof's tactics. They negotiated a deal on their behalf only to have these spoiled children tell them that it isn't good enough.
How many members of the committee could possibly be happy about that?
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"We got a lot of support. I can't tell you how many owners came up to me and Gavin and George and told us, "You can't do this deal. Stay patient. Concentrate on getting your team better."
Translation: Zero
"One owner – and I'm not saying who – said we should do the deal, but that was about it."
Translation: Nobody else would speak to us.
Translation: Zero
"One owner – and I'm not saying who – said we should do the deal, but that was about it."
Translation: Nobody else would speak to us.
Elektrik
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That is the LEAST important point in their agenda (whatever the heck it is). They probably dont even know.
The Hammer
All-Star
This is extremely good news. It's basically the last cog in the machine that will systematically dismantle Maloof ownership.
Löwenherz
Starter
This is fantastic news, assuming it's true and not some sort of damage control by the NBA.
The last few days I've been completely confounded and infuriated as to how the BoG could possibly support the Maloofs through this. A deal brokered by the NBA themselves and yet, according to the Maloofs, the other owners were heaping supportive comments on them calling it a bad deal and encouraging them to walk away? That doesn't make any sense.
The only thing that does make sense is for this to be true and the Maloofs are either hearing what they want to hear or flat out lying.
If this is true, the Maloofs have backed themselves into a corner and they will soon wish they had gone along with the deal.
Well done George. And congrats on all your success.
The last few days I've been completely confounded and infuriated as to how the BoG could possibly support the Maloofs through this. A deal brokered by the NBA themselves and yet, according to the Maloofs, the other owners were heaping supportive comments on them calling it a bad deal and encouraging them to walk away? That doesn't make any sense.
The only thing that does make sense is for this to be true and the Maloofs are either hearing what they want to hear or flat out lying.
If this is true, the Maloofs have backed themselves into a corner and they will soon wish they had gone along with the deal.
Well done George. And congrats on all your success.
gatoradeSD
G-League
wait so who wrote this letter? people that work for the nba or sacramento people?
The Hammer
All-Star
Chris Lehane wrote the letter, one of the best political strategists in the country, and the Executive Director of Think Big, the group KJ put together to engender support for the project. Here's his letter. Pretty scathing, but also lays out the real facts in a concise way:
http://www.thinkbigsacramento.com/assets/Press-Releases/Letter-to-Think-BIG.pdf
Karl Rove once called Lehane "one of the best opposition researchers in the Democratic party." He's known as an expert in the "politics of personal destruction." This is child's play for him.
Same guy who made the comment comparing the Maloofs to North Korea yesterday that got Grant's lace panties all twisted. He's timing the releases of his statements perfectly. I'd guess we're going to hear something further from him in 2-3 days.
The Hammer
All-Star
It's becoming clear that the deeper they go, the more the Maloofs are weaving a web of lies. It's almost too preposterous to believe, which is what has gotten them this far. Just straight out, flat out lies. And it's not just George now. Joe apparently has no problem telling bald faced lies to his "customers". It's apt that this family derailed a "railroad arena project" because the entire family is a friggin train wreck!
PurpleHaze
All-Star
The Big Lie - contorted philosophy/theory. The more you repeat it, the more people just might believe it, and the more you convince yourself it's right/justified. People in desperate financial trouble, in foreclosure, with debt collectors at their doorstep, often act very irrational. Interesting how Joe Maloof when asked about the families financial condition (Voisin interview) had so little to hang his hat on in response - mostly talking up their "Wells Fargo stock." They've got to now be one of, if not the most ragged bunch of no longer rich and famous owners in major league professional sports. Don't they realize that owning such a major sports franchise is not a way to get rich, but is just an exclusive rich mans hobby? Laughable, pathetic and tragic, all at the same time!
The Hammer
All-Star
Such caring people. Which is why they suggested it makes more financial sense for the city to throw money at renovating old Arco, an asset they city neither owns nor is a tenant in, and that will spark no new development around it. And at a cost, according to the Maloofs themselves, that would be more that the cost of a downtown brand new arena. The city should take them on as advisers, along with their Anaheim based "economist".
Livinthedream
All-Star
What they're trying to do is poison the city and make sure that no arena gets built in Sacramento after they sell. Make it politically unpopular to finance an arena in Sacramento. That is the only result that could possibly be achieved with this strategy.
What is amazing to me is the need for the family to respond to people criticizing them. The more they respond, the more the are likely to make a mistake. Chris Lehane baited them, and they bit. Love it.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well, don't know why they would want ot poison the well for AFTER they sell, but certainly whether its intentinal or unintentional, these sorts of comments could spell disaster for getting an arena built whether its alone, for the Maloofs, or for a new owner. You know the CAVE peopel will pull them out in an instant. Its completely irresponsible by the Maloofs in any scenario exept the one where they want to intentionally stop the arena process so they can leave.
Livinthedream
All-Star
I guess I see the Maloofs as childish and vindictive enough to not want anyone to build an arena in this city after they're out of the league. I suspect they know they will be out of the league shortly from a number of observations. One of them being that they're absolutely blowing up every single bridge they can find.
Rut-roh...
It's gonna get really interesting now. Eric Rose has no idea what he has just stepped in.
rainmaker
Hall of Famer
Bet they were shocked to see 16K plus screaming fans rooting for their team today which is probably the last thing they expected, knowing them. Also were apparently too scared to step outside of their sweet which is probably a good thing. Right now they're only hope is fans just disappearing, and I doubt they have a plan for the 16K+ they saw today combined with local and national media painting them as public enemy #1.
Livinthedream
All-Star
Something tells me their plan is not working out the way they intended. Seems to be a trend with the Maloofs.
Section 101
All-Star
Grant.
Löwenherz
Starter
"paid representative"
kingjatt
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not just Grant, everyone at 1140 has to be reserved on what they about the magoofs, their former producer, John Dickenson, who now works in the bay area tweeted about how controlling the magoofs are about what goes on at the station.
Livinthedream
All-Star
More from Ken Berger
"Responding to Johnson's accusation that the Maloofs backed away from the deal because they want to move the team, George Maloof said, "Our intention is to stay in Sacramento." But when pressed for a commitment that the family would not file a relocation petition with the NBA, he said, "Ask me in a year."
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/18605858/another-city-lurks-even-as-maloofs-insist-kings-wont-leave-sactown
Like I said, the more the Maloofs talk, the more mistakes they make and more their true intentions become known.
"Responding to Johnson's accusation that the Maloofs backed away from the deal because they want to move the team, George Maloof said, "Our intention is to stay in Sacramento." But when pressed for a commitment that the family would not file a relocation petition with the NBA, he said, "Ask me in a year."
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/18605858/another-city-lurks-even-as-maloofs-insist-kings-wont-leave-sactown
Like I said, the more the Maloofs talk, the more mistakes they make and more their true intentions become known.
When they gave a powerpoint presentation at their press conference and the words 'relocation' or 'move the team' were referenced on 4 of the first 5 slides, that made their true intentions pretty transparent. The more they try and hide from it the more they lose credibility.
Löwenherz
Starter
This is the first direct example of another owner expressing disgust toward the Maloof's actions. And it's a big one.
"George Maloof also disputed the notion fellow owners are infuriated by the Maloofs' refusal to consummate the arena deal. Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor, the chairman of the Board of Governors, told CBSSports.com Friday that he wished the Maloofs "had stayed and worked with the city" but that an arena deal in Sacramento "may be impossible" due to a "gap in trust." "
Also from the interview Ken Berger of CBS Sports had with George Maloof.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/...s-maloofs-insist-kings-wont-leave-sactown/rss
"George Maloof also disputed the notion fellow owners are infuriated by the Maloofs' refusal to consummate the arena deal. Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor, the chairman of the Board of Governors, told CBSSports.com Friday that he wished the Maloofs "had stayed and worked with the city" but that an arena deal in Sacramento "may be impossible" due to a "gap in trust." "
Also from the interview Ken Berger of CBS Sports had with George Maloof.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/...s-maloofs-insist-kings-wont-leave-sactown/rss
The Hammer
All-Star
There is likely an organized effort on the part of David Stern and the BOG, feeding bits of information such as this to the media, effectively launching a campaign to portray these guys for who they are. Gotta understand that Stern can't do it directly. But I'd be willing to be money that other owners are checking with Stern before they go and talk to the media. It's also probably common knowledge among them that they want to get them out of the league asap. We'll probably see little quotes and interviews peppered into the media over the next 2 weeks or so. And all of it will drive the Maloofs nuts and cause them to become more reactive, thereby digging their own grave.
Also, if KJ knows that Stern and the BOG have his back regarding blocking a move (regardless of attendance/corporate support), and of course they will, because the NBA brokered the deal, then that empowers him to basically play the waiting game, standing his ground on the "not renegotiating" policy. It's brilliant, really, the perfect storm that is brewing to oust the Maloofs from the league.
Now, though, the Maloofs are trying to circumvent Stern yet again, saying they want to negotiate directly with the City (oh but not KJ). So basically everyone who they can't manipulate, they want out of the picture. This just simply isn't going to happen. They are going to be held to their word. Since they can't live up to their word, they'll eventually crumble. Who knows, maybe they'll come to their senses and take a sweet offer from Burkle. Funny, isn't this just about the exact same thing that happened at the Palms? They divested the equity and basically ended up upside down and then were forced out by defaulting. I wonder how close they are to defaulting on loans to the city/NBA?? I wonder how much they'll pull from their "tremendous personal wealth" just to hang on to a toy asset??? Once again, I conclude one of my posts about the Maloof with the only reasonable conclusion: INSANE!!!
Trueblood
Bench
This is what I'm confused about. Stern says that the arena "is not gonna happen" and KJ has said that it's "pretty much dead". I'm talking purely hypothetical but what if the Maloofs wake up tomorrow and finally realize that they have no future in the league and decide to sell to Burkle? Wouldn't the arena deal still be good? Or have they already scrapped it and all the council votes mean nothing since the original ownership group that agreed to pay $75 million are out of the picture.
In short, do we have to go over this whole process again or is the original framework still good in the hopeful event of Burkle coming to town?
In short, do we have to go over this whole process again or is the original framework still good in the hopeful event of Burkle coming to town?
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